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We agree in advisements and prayers given for this marriage that overall, it will be Your Will, to be seen in this situation, that hearts can be touched and changed as you know best for healings and possible restoration. In Jesus Name-Amen!!
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02-01-2010, 07:57 PM
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Sister JeriRose12 and everyone else. Thank you. To God be the Glory!!! Hallelujah to the Lamb!!! For He is Worthy To be Praised!!! May He Receive all the Honor Glory and Praise!!!
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02-06-2010, 10:02 PM
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You stated this- "I liken marriage problems, to physical pain. If you were in deep agonizing pain, headache, toothache,bodyache or any other excuriating pain. When would you want your pain removed? Today? Tomorrow? 1 week? 1 month? Six months? Years? How about if someone told you that God would not take away your excruciating pain? Ever. And that you would have to live the rest of your life with that pain. Could any of us really agree with such a prayer? Who could bear it?" Its pretty clear you have little concept of the people who do suffer greatly who are True Children of God, all around this world, excruciating pain. This includes me, from my youngest rememberance of the pain i'd experienced all up thru my late 40s and am 52 now. No, i have not been delivered or healed by God of this affliction. Rather, I'd lived with it all my life and it causes other inter-related problems now. I had suffered so much pain all thru my preteen and all teen years, i became used to the pain. By my 20s, when totally committed my life to living for God and since then, I just lived with it. I was so used to it, it did not bother me enough to need deliverance or healing of it, even tho twice a week, I'd go thru a routine for several hours certain days, rolling out of bed dropping to the floor, then slowly working my body and limbs enough to where I could finally sit upright, then working to finally stand upright and walk. the pain was so bad it could send your mind reeling with every attempt to move, trying to keep its senses until you got yourself loose enough, muscles relaxed and nerves no longer pinched, to be able to move freely once again. Or to suffer with migraines for 25 years that were so bad, not even prescription drugs quelled the pain, so you'd consider suicide off and on to end the pain. This started out happening 3-4 times a week ending at one every nine months eventually years later. But... you think thats bad, try living with the beatings, imprisonments, ship wrecks, crushed skull and badly beaten body of the Apostle Paul, which God never delivered him from suffering. So, try to compare that kind of pain, to a broken marriage situation and the latter no where compares to the first. I also know a guy personally, who cut his own lower leg off, when a tree fell on him out in the woods and the only way to survive, was to use his chainsaw to cut his lower leg off. Then he crawled thru the woods yet, to reach his truck and cell phone. Now, I can appreciate your trying to explain the pain of a seperation of a couple. But, we need to stay realistic in this. Fact is marriage partners when do things that hurt the other one just are not thinking. They don't care about thier partner at that moment, but only for themselves. Also, I can go along with God forgiving them. we all make mistakes. But, when a partner takes a situation far enough to bring about a seperation or divorce, thats now a consequence of thier sinful actions. But we must remember what God told Paul as well, when someone- (thorn in the flesh0 was tormenting him while ministering and Paul asked 3 times for God to remove this thorn. God didn't. Instead He told Paul, No, "for My Grace is sufficient for thee." Sometimes, wether we like it or not, we must suffer with some things and not be delivered, healed, etc from them. And God declares "All things are possible" in Him. but only "POSSIBLE", not PROMISED. this means, while we can believe and have faith to keep holding to that, it may still never happen in our physical life time. We can believe he will do something and never falter in that belief. But in Truth, it will still come down to it being "GOD'S WILL" wether it does or not. It will not be "OUR WILL" that rules. Whenever God, Christ or Holy Spirit thru Apostles speak of having unfailing FAITH in God, that Faith must be placed Biblically correct, within God's will to be seen manifested. In other words, it comes down to God's timing and purpose for when, where and how our prayers are answered. In my case, since no physical healings have occurred over all these years, i know it will be after I physically die. and thats fine with me. I've already, by God's Grace, out lived the limit of my doctor's predictions of being in a wheelchair by my mid to late 40s. And I'll keep going on my feet doing whats necessary to do so, as long as its God's will for me to do so. I already know i'm healed, that God has answered my and so many others, years worth of prayers over this affliction. I just patiently wait for the manifestation when God so chooses to do so. Truth is, what we must do with situations is, lift up prayers to God over them, then leave them to the Father at Jesus' Feet, for God to handle them after that, so we can concentrate our own personal life and time to seeking a closer relationship with God and serving him more as well. That way, when God answers our prayers, we can be sure, they will be the best answer for us, regardless what answer it is. God Bless!!
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02-07-2010, 07:28 PM
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And emotional pain is different than physical pain. Unless God removes the pain on my body miraculously, all I can do it try to control it through medications and other ways. But, the way that you can move on from emotional pain is letting go. Let go of trying to hang onto someone who doesn't want to be in relationship with you. This is why 1 Corinthians 7:15 & 16 is in the Bible, saying to let the unbelieving partner go...it is so you can let go and move on, not just in the physical sense, but in the emotional sense. By staying stuck in the state you are in, refusing to let go, you are keeping the wound open and bleesing. So, though we know God can transform your wife and restore the marriage and that is what we pray for...we still have to consider the entire context of scripture in regards to your situation. And, as Christian Commando said, God's grace is sufficient for us.
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02-08-2010, 10:14 AM
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But, I would offer one thought: every person who asks on these forums for a "marriage restoration" wants to have God miraculously transform one of the two people so that they are completely happy and devoted to their spouse (and to the marriage). The problem I see is that not all marriages should be saved based on the choices made by one (or both) of the people. Since it is not for me to judge what marriages should endure, I simply pray that God will do what is right in each case. I suspect that "restoring" every marriage is not the right thing since many marriages are mistakes from the outset for a variety of reasons. I have no way of knowing about yours, perhaps it is solid and God will help you rebuild it. I hope so. Last edited by bountyhunter; 02-08-2010 at 09:48 PM.
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02-10-2010, 08:24 PM
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Brothers and sisters who post please. Let me ask you What if? What if you prayed that God restore our my marriage miraculously today? And not only my marriage but all other marriages who come seeking restoration? Without doubting "if" just humbling ourselves and asking Him to restore my marriage and all other marriges who come here. Remember the title "PRAYER FOR RESTORATION OF MARRIAGE". Please pray accordingly, without doubting, and see what God will do. Matthew 18:19. I also have a will and desire. I matter and so do my children. It is written... for with God All things are possible Matthew 19:26 It is also written... nothing is impossible with God Luke 1:37 What would it take for you just to pray that God will reconcile my marriage? Remember what Jesus said freely you have received freely give. Please just use your faith for a brother or sister in need. For with out faith it is impossible to please God. Hebrews 11:6 Let this be done for His Honor and His Glory. The rewards of your faith and fervent prayers for my marriage and all others marriages will be eternal. For this is my true and sincere desire..... your reward in heaven. I humbly ask you In the Name of our Lord and Savoiur Jesus My prayer will still be for the Complete Restoration-Reconciliation of my marriage. Goals and Prayers 1. Complete reconciliation with our God for our whole family. Isaiah 53 2. Complete Reconciliation between my wife Maria and me. Isaiah 53 3. Complete Reconciliation with my girls also. Isaiah 53 and 54 4. Complete Restoration of all things lost all these years. Spiritual, physical, mental, emotional, relational, even financial and all other areas. Isaiah 53 1 Peter 3:1-7 Galatians 5: 16-26 Romans 16:20 I John 3:4-10 Joel 2:25 Last edited by omega1; 02-10-2010 at 08:29 PM. Reason: grammer
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02-11-2010, 11:30 AM
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Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Gstocketwiesenstrasse, Germany Posts: 4,618 Re: Fighting for the Restoration of my Marriage too! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Manuel, God is going to heal your marriage. Give him all the obstacles standing in your way, and he will restore love between you and your wife. Christ the Rock, Behold Your beloved Your Son Manuel and his three daughters!!! Restore the family unit they once had. Bring Maria back home to them. Reconcile them with Your powerful love. Blow to smitherens all dents the enemy has poked in their marriage. Amen __________________ O Du Schöpfer des Himmels und der Erde, verbirg Dein Angesicht nicht vor Deinen Knechten, erwecke Deine Kraft und komme uns zu Hilfe. Laß leuchten Dein Antlitz über uns!
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02-11-2010, 12:29 PM
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I know His plans are not to divorce for I firmly believe... Love covers a multitude of sins 1 Peter 4:8. I still love my wife and it is the desire of my heart to have our marriage reconciled and also with my girls. Delight yourself also in the LORD: and he shall give you the desires of your heart. Psalm 37:4. Sincerely Manuel Maria and our three girls. Thank you for praying in agreement Matthew 18:19-20.
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02-11-2010, 01:21 PM
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If your wife is a born again Christian (Christian means follower of Christ), then why is she involved in ongoing, unrepented for adultery? How long can she go on in sin and not have her name blotted out of the Lambs Book of Life? There is an entire teaching here as to whether someone's name can be blotted out of the Lambs Book of Life, and there are plenty of Sciptures in that thread saying that yes, it can. What we need to pray for is her repetance and returning to the Lord and in a strong relationship. When these issues come into play, it changes things, and there is plenty of supporting Scripture. Just because you have been pators does not make her a born again Christian.
How about that one who prayed in faith, with NO DOUBT, nothing wavering...and the marriage still ended in divorce? What do I tell that person? What do I tell the one who prayed for them? Could you please post to that hurting, weeping one who has been through the ravages of divorce (even Paula White who preached "Kick the devil out of your marriage" went through divorce) and comfort them? I have been on this board for years, and I have prayed in four marriage prayer vigils...and not every marriage was restored. I have walked with these people and encouraged them and comforted them when they did not get the answer they totally, 100% believed God for. They were "standing" for their marriage...and refused to quit or give in. I can not tell you why God did not reply as they wished. I can not tell you why the marriage ended. Well, yes, one reason: As the Lord told my sister, "I couldn't fix your marriage because (your husband) wasn't willing. He refused to go My way, so I took him out of your life." I have rejoiced with those who rejoiced (marriage restored), and I have wept with those who wept (mate left). I ALWAYS pray for he restoration of the marriage; I always ask God to give that person every chance possible to repent and return to Him and their family. Why would I pray anything less? But if that person rejects Him...then something totally different might be the outcome. And no way, no how can I deny that the Scripture is in the Bible that says if the unbeliever wants to go...let them go. As per the first paragraph, how can you say your wife is a born again Christian? The Hebrew children said "Our God is able...but if He does not...." JeriRose
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02-12-2010, 08:53 AM
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I've been reading the responces here and must say, Omega1, you need to let this go to God for HIS WILL, not yours, to be done. That means, if your wife cannot be reached by God because she is closed off to him caught up in this adulterous affair, her heart cannot be turned, unless God knows something we don't.
But not every marriage is going to be restored, regardless the Faith of the whole "Body of Christ." It still comes down to personal choice, if that person is open to the Holy Spirit for that or not. Sometimes, most times, its better to pray for God's will, so the best for both of you can be accomplished by God, rather than what you want. I've witnessed good teachings here by some who've talked about how while God may accept or Condone marriage, if He does not Ordain each one- calls a couple to be together, how then can a marriage always be restored if the couple chose of thier own will to marry and not lead by God to? Think about it. Dear Lord- I pray that your Will would be done in this situation, if the wife can be reached to turn this around and heal and restore this marriage. if not, give both ex partners the peace and calm to let it go and allow you to move them on down the paths you want for each one. AMEN
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02-12-2010, 04:51 PM
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Do some of you remember when you were born again? Remember you first love? I would venture to say when someone asked you for prayer you would not doubt God. You would just ask Him. Remember your needs at the time? Remember how He answered your prayers no matter how impossible they might have sounded? Remember those first days, your fervent prayers... the tears you shed before God... your walk with Him? What happened? Now I dont doubt that you love God. But what about that first love? Ask a child if they would pray for any marriage on this board. Do you think they would doubt?. We must continue to be like children. For those of you who have prayed for restoration of my marriage and have come in total agreement Thank you. It is written in Matthew 18:19-20. 19 "Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. 20For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them." You must understand the power of God when at least two people agree. He answers our prayers. He does not limit us to what we can ask or not ask. Please read Hosea chapter 2. Here is a prophet whose wife was in adultery. But God put circumstances for her return. Apparently she was unwilling to return to her husband but God......put circumstances for her return. God is the same yesterday today and forever. He does not change. God did it for Hosea He can do it for me and everyone who asks of God. Now is the time more than ever to believe God without doubting. I would not be the first man whose wife has committed adultery and God has restored/reconciled their marriage, first of all to Himself and at the same time to each other. Adultery is a work of the devil, because sin is a work of the devil. But Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil. Here is what is written in: 1 John 3:8 He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work. It is also written in: John10:10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly. 11 I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. it is written: Matthew 7:8 For every one that asks receives; and he that seeks finds; and to him that knocks it shall be opened. it is also written: John 15:7 if you abide in me and my words abide in you ask what you will and it shall be done for you. With all these promises in Gods word should I doubt God and not ask? He does not say dont ask? But he delights when we ask. The effective fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much. James 5:16 Then return of Jesus is emminent. Now is the time to step out in faith. Once again I humble myself before God. Please read the title again "Prayer for Restoration of Marriage". I... In the Name of Jesus will stand and will believe for the restoration/reconciliation of every marriage on this board. First with Our Lord God Amighty and at the same time with each other. That is my sincere prayer and desire. I invite all others who are full of faith and not doubt to join us in this great end time revival. For the Glory of God Almighty He is worthy to be praised. I seal this prayer in the Name Of Jesus and with Blood of the Lamb. Amen. Brother or Sister if you are in need of marriage restoration- know this there many who are praying and agreeing for a miracle in your situation. Read the testimonies of others on this board and you will see what God is doing. I know you will be encouraged. He can do it for others He can Do it for You- In Jesus Name. Prayer warriors join us in this great end time revival-In Jesus Name. Last edited by ninababy73; 02-13-2010 at 03:33 AM. Reason: outside web links NOT allowed on site
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02-14-2010, 09:09 AM
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"Remember how He answered your prayers no matter how impossible they might have sounded?" No, and I think you miss the point of the thread which is advising you trust in God to do what's best and not expect Him to do exactly what we ask because we don't always know what is best for us. IMHO, I think you mis interpret scripture if you think LITERALLY that God will provide anything that two people pray for. On some of the other prayer boards I have seen people pray for God to give them the winning lottery number. I saw one prayer from a person whose car needed it's brakes fixed and he didn't want to spend the money so he asked for prayers that God would fix his car. I saw a post from a woman whose husband was living adulterously with another woman, told his wife that he hated her and wanted a divorce, and blamed it all on her. All the wife wanted was for him to be magically transformed into a faithful, loving husband who was a devout Christian and loved only her. About as likely as me being transformed into Brad Pitt. I certainly believe in prayer, but God is not a vending machine where you put in a prayer and the miracle drops out the bottom. The point is that you get what you need and that is not always the same as what you want. Ask any five year old and they know that's true. I pray that you also get relief and help from God. I just think it's a mistake to assume a miracle is going to happen every time two people say a prayer. Last edited by bountyhunter; 02-14-2010 at 06:17 PM.
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02-14-2010, 05:37 PM
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I pray in agreement for God to heal all wounds to each of you individually and in your marriage. I pray, Heavenly Father, do Your will in this marriage and soften both hearts where they turn to You for guidance, and support, with an unyielding adoration for Your Glory and a will to be like You, hear You, and follow You in love.
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02-16-2010, 12:51 PM
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You state- "Do some of you remember when you were born again? Remember you first love? I would venture to say when someone asked you for prayer you would not doubt God." Just remember where God declares, His ways are not our ways. thus, answers to our prayers, tho we seek it one way, may be answered different, even if we may not believe it has been, because we won't accept any other answer but what WE WANT. And to be Truthful, God does not declare when, where or how He will answer prayers, only that He "Promises" to, when inline with His Will. That leaves alot of room for God to answer our requests, as He knows best, even tho we may not accept an answer He gives. It can be YES as we asked, or NO- "for My Grace is sufficient for thee", or answered totally different than we expect. I've never known anyone, being first born or later after grown in great faith, to have seen ALL prayers answered as we/they prayed for them. I've been a Minister of God for 30 years this year and have seen hundreds of times where some marriages were restored, others not, some people healed, others not, some afflicted for no apparent reason, but found it was later, more and more I could list. Sometimes answered totally different than asked for, yet perfectly so, that it worked best for them/situation. And it had nothing to do with great faith or a lack of it, but was in accordance with God's will instead how, when or where it was answered. Fact is, it has to be God's will, not yours that is carried thru in this situation. Remember when christ had went to certain settlements and could do very few if any miracles because of thier lack of belief/faith? well, if a partner in a broken marriage does not want to be back together, God is not going to force them to change, just because the other wants them back, regardless of thier faith for believing in restoration. God gives everyone freedom of choice. Thus, if a partner should decide to never want to be with an original one and never changes that belief, God won't make them change thier mind, but leave each one go thier way. We can have all the faith in the world on God and it won't change that other's mind, unless God knows they are open to such in some way. The most important for each partner, is to lift thier need before God, then leave it at Jesus' Feet for God to deal with, while they themselves concentrate on growing closer and stronger in God in thier own life. ("Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven and all these things shall be added unto you.") You state- "You must understand the power of God when at least two people agree. He answers our prayers. He does not limit us to what we can ask or not ask." I think you better re-read God's word my friend. For God declares many a time thru Christ and the apostles, about how God can turn a deaf ear to requests not inline with His Word/Will. That example you used with Hosea and his adulterous wife is only one example of that. There are no other confirming Scriptures to show it is a normal acceptable practice of God. Therefore, do not use such again, as God's Word confirms and reconfirms Itself for what we are to believe. Besides that, Hos. 1:2- because of the sins of Isreal having become like a whore, God instructed Hosea to marry a whore. So... where does this fit in with all the Scriptures God speaks against marrying an harlot/being involved with one, etc? Secondly- Read the whole story and realize thier situation was a specific one, not an 'in general" one, therefore, does not set a standard for all marriages. As you will not see where this was seen in any other ones before or after them. Matt. 7:8, John 15:7 and all other Scriptures you mentioned about God answering our requests, only relates to what God knows is best for us. If someone is horrible at handling money, and prays to God for a million dollars, God will never bless them with it, to see it wasted. He will only bless people with what He knows is best for them, they can handle, not give them things or blessings he knows they will only waste. Rather, God will Bless that person with the money to cover needed expenses etc, not piles of extra. If someone needs a car for transportation to work, store, etc., and they ask for a brand new, big fancy luxury one, God won't Bless them with that, but with a vehicle that will cover thier needs and work best for them. If people want to use God's Word to back up what they personally want, they need to learn to keep such in context with God and his Will, not falsely used for personal wants as THEY dictate. More and more of God's Children are falsely taught to believe they can recieve whatever they pray/ask for, regardless if God's Will or not, because "THEY" want it, not God. And the sad part is, so many quit believing in or following God, because being mislead like that, they lose faith and belief in God, when do not recieve the answers they are falsely taught to expect. Usaully along with those teachings, come the accusations those people lacked the belief or faith to see such selfish petitions answered. A perfect example of this is "Salvation"- God declares, it is His Will none would be lost to Hell. Yet at the same time, He declares- "many shall come, but few will enter." And Jesus declared- many shall come saying Lord, Lord, but the son of God shall say to them, be gone from Me, for I do not know you. This is because for some, they'd never heard the Gospel, while others are falsely taught to believe in "works" saving them plus more. I'm not against God restoring marriages. I know He does. But... I've also learned, it comes down to God's will, according to each person's individual thinking and operating, wether god can reach each one for such. And just because God "Condones" an equally yoked marriage, its not saying He "Ordained" it. it still comes down to "who" chose the other person to marry. Did God call those two together, or did they choose of thier own free will who to marry? That makes a difference how well a marriage will stand the test of time and trials. A complete opposite to Hosea's adulterous wife, is King Saul of Old Test. fame. If God forcefully changed his wife, then why did God not forcefully change King Saul? Like with Hoseas' wife, God also had road blocks come up to direct King Saul, but Saul still would not listen and stayed selfish. But God did not force Hosea's wife to change. He simply cut off her ability to come in contact with her lovers, thats it. 2:7 shows where God declares she will realize she should return to her first husband when the above happens, like the Prodigal son story. (Totally opposite of being forced). So... as said before, Hosea's situation was a specific one, with specific circumstances, not setting any precidence for "general application". Forgive me, but so far, your shared understanding of God's Word is clearly not inline with what God actually teaches. Again, look at Matt. 7:8- Even tho Christ declares, seek and ye shall find, ask and ye shall recieve, etc., where does Jesus or God EVER declare, we will always recieve "EXACTLY" what we ask for? They don't. Even where God speaks of "OUR DESIRES" given us, realize, if read Scriptures before to after those, God speaks of how those "DESIRES" will be in accordance to His- (God's) Will. John 15:7- quite true. but read v 5 up thru vs 10. It declares- if we keep his Commandments, we shall abide in His Love, vs 4-10 all speak about "abiding" in God thru Christ. Why? To be seeking God's will as Christ saught the father's Will to do- v 10. NOT OUR WILL. People need to re-read God's Word over and stop using it to claim personal wants recieved, when we must devote our whole life and service to God first and foremost, before God will Bless us with personal desires. I do not doubt God. By the same token, I fully believe by Faith what God literally teaches us in His Word as Truth, not my own personal interpretation. As such, i do not believe God will just "blink" every time i ask for something personal/selfish and expect God to deliver exactly how and the way I want something. I seek first to glorify God in all i petition him for, never for personal or selfish wants. God Bless!!
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We are now working on getting back together. Now I am asking for your prayers for a new home and new cars, basically everthing new. As we will have to start completey over again. Yes Glory to God he has heard your prayers and intercession. I thank God for everyone who prayed in agreement according to Matthew 18:19-20 and Hosea 2:6-7. I love God, my wife and my children. Prayer Warriors please continue to keep us in prayer. I will keep everyone posted what will happen in the next few days. In Jesus Name. Hallelujah!!
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