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Who Thinks the Mark of the Beast will be in our time

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Posted by: cuti4u34

I wonder with all the craziness and the evil in the world,,, because the bible does indicate Satan knows his tiime is short, and I really believe he is trying to do as much evil as possible, along with his evil demons, and trying to ensnare as many unbelieves as possible who have not yet found the Lord... I wonder though,, Does anyone think the Mark of the Beast will be in our generation??? I can only speculate because the bible does not say exactly when... I kind of think it is possible that this will happen in our generation and i try to educate my children now as much as possible.. God knows, I do not want them to recieve the Mark of the Beast. I also wonder about poor innocent new born babies who cant speak for themselves and yet im sure some of their unbelieving parents will possibley have them marked with the mark of the beast...(ive been told god will not hold them accountable as they did not actually accept it for themselves..) I have a 4yr old and IM trying to explain the mark of the beast to him ( he doesnt quite understand it yet)God knows i do not want my child marked, by the government, school system ect....Godwilling,, It would be nice if the rapture would occur before this, or that the Good Lord would take us out of this impending evil to come.. What is everyones opinion??


Posted by: quickdraw

Quote:
Originally Posted by cuti4u34
I wonder with all the craziness and the evil in the world,,, because the bible does indicate Satan knows his tiime is short, and I really believe he is trying to do as much evil as possible, along with his evil demons, and trying to ensnare as many unbelieves as possible who have not yet found the Lord... I wonder though,, Does anyone think the Mark of the Beast will be in our generation??? I can only speculate because the bible does not say exactly when... I kind of think it is possible that this will happen in our generation and i try to educate my children now as much as possible.. God knows, I do not want them to recieve the Mark of the Beast. I also wonder about poor innocent new born babies who cant speak for themselves and yet im sure some of their unbelieving parents will possibley have them marked with the mark of the beast...(ive been told god will not hold them accountable as they did not actually accept it for themselves..) I have a 4yr old and IM trying to explain the mark of the beast to him ( he doesnt quite understand it yet)God knows i do not want my child marked, by the government, school system ect....Godwilling,, It would be nice if the rapture would occur before this, or that the Good Lord would take us out of this impending evil to come.. What is everyones opinion??


If Father God takes us out of this impending evil, who will be salt & light in this place of such darkness! I think we just have to rely on HIM enable us to be strong and of good courage whatever His plan is!!

Forever His,
Sharon


Posted by: calhawaiigirl

I adopted a kitten last month and they placed a microchip in her. It has my name, address and phone number. It only takes a second. So the technology is in place and as we see world events unfold, it seems only a matter of time before Israel is invaded as predicted. For years we thought that the Catholic church was the religion to fear. Now we see that Islamic radicals are bent on exterminating all other religions. They have positioned themselves all over the world and are reaping havoc. The European Union, as well as the UN are in place. And thanks to TBN the gospel has just about reached every people and tongue.

We believers need to be in prayer and the word daily but we should not live in fear. The battle is fierce so we must fight the good fight while there is time. In regard to our children, we are to train them in the word, love them unconditionally, and pray over them constantly. I don't believe Jesus will lose any of those he has chosen. Just as Jesus was ushered into this world over 2000 years ago as predicted, I believe we have the signs of the time of his return and can "wait in the temple" like Simeon. I say come Lord Jesus!


Posted by: quickdraw

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Originally Posted by calhawaiigirl
I adopted a kitten last month and they placed a microchip in her. It has my name, address and phone number. It only takes a second. So the technology is in place and as we see world events unfold, it seems only a matter of time before Israel is invaded as predicted. For years we thought that the Catholic church was the religion to fear. Now we see that Islamic radicals are bent on exterminating all other religions. They have positioned themselves all over the world and are reaping havoc. The European Union, as well as the UN are in place. And thanks to TBN the gospel has just about reached every people and tongue.

We believers need to be in prayer and the word daily but we should not live in fear. The battle is fierce so we must fight the good fight while there is time. In regard to our children, we are to train them in the word, love them unconditionally, and pray over them constantly. I don't believe Jesus will lose any of those he has chosen. Just as Jesus was ushered into this world over 2000 years ago as predicted, I believe we have the signs of the time of his return and can "wait in the temple" like Simeon. I say come Lord Jesus!



YES LORD

Forever His,
Sharon


Posted by: babam

Tbn?
Fearing catholics?
Please explain.


Posted by: quickdraw

Quote:
Originally Posted by babam
Tbn?
Fearing catholics?
Please explain.



I believe the fear was about the religiosity involved in Catholicism, the many ceremonies, worship of Mary, and the political power the church has wielded for so long! I believe tho, that most born again believers now recognise that there are born again believers in all the denominations of the Christian church!!

FOrever His,
Sharon


Posted by: calhawaiigirl

Many years ago it was taught by many churches that the Catholic church was the harlot spoke of in Revelation because the Vatican is in Rome which sits on 7 hills, for one reason. Back then many of the protestant churches feared Catholicism because of practices that were not approved, like confession and forgiveness by the priest. Now we know that salvation is about a personal relationship and there are saved and unsaved in every faith.

TBN is the Trinity Broadcasting Network, which has been broadcasting Christian television for thirty years.


Posted by: babam

TBN is the Trinity Broadcasting Network, which has been broadcasting Christian television for thirty years.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for explaining that. I have never seen TBN

I do think that it is highly possible that we might have to suffer persecution for refusing to have the mark.
Someone told me - and I am not sure whether it is true or not - that the barcode has two lines at the begining, middle and end and that each two lines represent a 6.

However I am not sure whether the mark is spiritual or physical. I just pray that when it happens that we Christians see it for what it is and keep strong in fellowship and prayer.


Posted by: NuNurse

However I am not sure whether the mark is spiritual or physical. I just pray that when it happens that we Christians see it for what it is and keep strong in fellowship and prayer.

__________________
I would have to say that the mark is both physical and spiritual.
I have come to discover what is written in the bible about almost all events and statements have many folds to them. It is amazing how when jesus spoke he was talking not only the spiritual but the physical and the present his time the past his time and the future. The more I educate myself on the way things were for him at his time how people lived and felt about things and as I see what has happened in the past and see how things are going now. I discover each and everytime that when Jesus spoke he was adressing all of the times and the spiritual and physical , So the mark of the beast will be here soon it is comming in the physical but I believe the mark was already placed spiritualy in hearts of men by thier behavior so now it becomes a physical thing because of it . For whatever is on this earth gets created by the hearts and spirits of men. Because we were created in the image of God. we too can move mountains with faith and create what is in our hearts .So the only way to save the world is if all have a Good and loving spirit.Too bad we all do not.


Posted by: Frederik

Quote:
Originally Posted by cuti4u34
I wonder with all the craziness and the evil in the world,,, because the bible does indicate Satan knows his tiime is short, and I really believe he is trying to do as much evil as possible, along with his evil demons, and trying to ensnare as many unbelieves as possible who have not yet found the Lord... I wonder though,, Does anyone think the Mark of the Beast will be in our generation??? I can only speculate because the bible does not say exactly when... I kind of think it is possible that this will happen in our generation and i try to educate my children now as much as possible.. God knows, I do not want them to recieve the Mark of the Beast. I also wonder about poor innocent new born babies who cant speak for themselves and yet im sure some of their unbelieving parents will possibley have them marked with the mark of the beast...(ive been told god will not hold them accountable as they did not actually accept it for themselves..) I have a 4yr old and IM trying to explain the mark of the beast to him ( he doesnt quite understand it yet)God knows i do not want my child marked, by the government, school system ect....Godwilling,, It would be nice if the rapture would occur before this, or that the Good Lord would take us out of this impending evil to come.. What is everyones opinion??



Why does a 4 year old have to know about the mark of the beast ? I mean it's already great when a 4 year old knows who Jesus is and when he's saved.... I hope he doesn't get nightmares because of the mark of the beast. I don't care about the mark of the beast. People spend way too much time thinking about Satan.


Posted by: billiefan2000

I think the Mark is among us.


RFID Chips and Verichips and also:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3697940.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3632015.stm



all show how the Mark is even among us today


Posted by: Christian mom

In December 1992, I was 4 months old in the Lord when I was given a very detailed vision of those things to come. In the vision, I saw many Christians being persecuted for not receiving the mark of the beast. By persecution, I mean murdered. They were rounded up, so to speak, and taken to what appeared to be a hospital, where there were guards at the ready with their guns. In the distance, there was thick black and acrid smoke polluting the sky. There was no sign of life in the faces of the captors...they were void of any emotion.

Coming over loud speakers was the most blasphemous filth I have ever heard. The male voice proclaimed that our Lord was not real, and that he (the one with the voice over the speakers), was in fact our saviour.

I was standing in a line with others but was allowed to see inside the hospital, the things that were happening. People were being promised food, water, a bath, everything they had need of if they took the mark. Many took it and were then escorted to a cafeteria-type room where they were allowed to eat. Those that did not accept it, were killed.

In the vision, I turned to my husband and said "You know what this means, don't you?" He replied "Yes, it is the mark." To that I responded, "I am making my stand for the Lord." I then turned and started singing praises to the Lord at the top of my voice. I continued to sing praises as I left the line that had formed, and began to walk away when I was shot dead. The Lord spoke to me in this vision and said "Well done, my good and faithful servant."

I believe with every fiber of my being that the mark of the beast is BOTH a physical and spiritual one. Spiritually, those who are not right with God and have hardened their hearts against Him, have already denied Him. Physically, it is a manifestation of what is already in their hearts. Yes, there will be those who will choose to take the mark, when it becomes worldwide. There will be those who under distress, who will accept it becauce their faith is not in Him, but in the things of a dying world.
Noone knows the day nor the hour, but we are told to prepare ourselves as the bride, preparing for her bridegroom's return.

The mark that is to come, and all it implies, is to be the world's final stand. Whom do we serve? We can only serve one Master. The mark is the final acceptance of the Lord, or the final denial of Him.

The mark is real. It is not a metaphor.

I pray we all prepare ourselves for those things to come, that we may stand victorious!

Glory to God.

I edited this message, adding the 6th paragraph, as it occured to me that I had left it out, only after coming back online and noticing I had omitted it, unintentionally.


Posted by: akabezalel

I simply do not waste my time wondering and worrying about things that will happen in God's time after the Church is removed from the earth.


Posted by: Christian mom

No worries here either, my friend. Just thought it was something I would share with those who had an interest.


God bless.


Posted by: akabezalel

Hi Wanda!

I wasn't responding to you personally, I was responding to the whole subject!

Sorry if it sounded that way! Please forgive any offense! Carol


Posted by: Christian mom

Carol....


None taken, Praise the Lord! All is well!

God bless!


Posted by: pickone

A few nights ago we watched (on the 700 Club, I think it was) these tiny microchips being inserted into humans. There was a bar (nightclub) who hosted an "inserting" into those patrons who wanted to participate. A man sitting in a chair with his sleeve rolled up. A person with a hypodermic needle standing over him. They explained that he would just let them scan him and that's how he'd pay his tab.

These microchips look like one of those tiny mag-lite lightbulbs. The needle it passes through doesn't look very small, either.

A surgeon was interviewed and he said he would install one if a person wanted it.

An anouncement was made that the first 100,000 would receive $100 off of the insertion price (I hope I didn't get that wrong).

Also, certain "important" people in the world had them installed quite some time ago.

When the 700 Club was reporting this, they did it in a 'facts only' manner. It was a completely unbiased report. No opinions were offered about anything.

There you have it. I don't think we should worry about it. We should stay informed, though. So far, everything is voluntary.

I almost forgot! I believe I did hear an opinion - it might have been fact, though. They are going to try peddling it to kids as the latest "cool" thing to get. I have been noticing on some movies that head and wrist tatoos are being flaunted quite a bit by the stars.


Posted by: Ready4Rapture

Quote:
Originally Posted by akabezalel
I simply do not waste my time wondering and worrying about things that will happen in God's time after the Church is removed from the earth.
I agree. We will be Raptured and gone before this happens. Our man concern on this is to be a vessel for the Holy Spirit to win as many souls for God BEFORE this happens.

Don't WORRY.... JUST WITNESS!!


Posted by: FriendOfGod

Meeeeeeeeee!


Posted by: FriendOfGod

Quote:
Originally Posted by Christian mom
In December 1992, I was 4 months old in the Lord when I was given a very detailed vision of those things to come. In the vision, I saw many Christians being persecuted for not receiving the mark of the beast. By persecution, I mean murdered. They were rounded up, so to speak, and taken to what appeared to be a hospital, where there were guards at the ready with their guns. In the distance, there was thick black and acrid smoke polluting the sky. There was no sign of life in the faces of the captors...they were void of any emotion.

Coming over loud speakers was the most blasphemous filth I have ever heard. The male voice proclaimed that our Lord was not real, and that he (the one with the voice over the speakers), was in fact our saviour.

I was standing in a line with others but was allowed to see inside the hospital, the things that were happening. People were being promised food, water, a bath, everything they had need of if they took the mark. Many took it and were then escorted to a cafeteria-type room where they were allowed to eat. Those that did not accept it, were killed.

In the vision, I turned to my husband and said "You know what this means, don't you?" He replied "Yes, it is the mark." To that I responded, "I am making my stand for the Lord." I then turned and started singing praises to the Lord at the top of my voice. I continued to sing praises as I left the line that had formed, and began to walk away when I was shot dead. The Lord spoke to me in this vision and said "Well done, my good and faithful servant."

I believe with every fiber of my being that the mark of the beast is BOTH a physical and spiritual one. Spiritually, those who are not right with God and have hardened their hearts against Him, have already denied Him. Physically, it is a manifestation of what is already in their hearts. Yes, there will be those who will choose to take the mark, when it becomes worldwide. There will be those who under distress, who will accept it becauce their faith is not in Him, but in the things of a dying world.
Noone knows the day nor the hour, but we are told to prepare ourselves as the bride, preparing for her bridegroom's return.

The mark that is to come, and all it implies, is to be the world's final stand. Whom do we serve? We can only serve one Master. The mark is the final acceptance of the Lord, or the final denial of Him.

The mark is real. It is not a metaphor.

I pray we all prepare ourselves for those things to come, that we may stand victorious!

Glory to God.

I edited this message, adding the 6th paragraph, as it occured to me that I had left it out, only after coming back online and noticing I had omitted it, unintentionally.


Wow! You really had that vision? Sounds just like Daniel and John on the island of Pathmos seeing the visions in the book of Revelation!


Posted by: FriendOfGod

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ready4Rapture
I agree. We will be Raptured and gone before this happens. Our man concern on this is to be a vessel for the Holy Spirit to win as many souls for God BEFORE this happens.

Don't WORRY.... JUST WITNESS!!


I agree too. I humble myself and to just be aware, but not excited and to concentrate on saving as many lost as possible before the next disaster or Rapture!


Posted by: Christian mom

Janet.....

Yes, I really did.


Posted by: Sozoed

That is such an amazing dream, Christian Mom! It confirms a lot of visions and dreams I've read on other Christian/prophetic websites from people all over the world. We just need to stand strong for the Lord, and He will provide the words in our mouths if a time like this should occur.(I don't want to ruffle anyone's pre, mid or post trib's feelings, but I believe we are going to be here through the entire trib. to witness...so I pray for strength often for this time.

If we are raptured sooner, than Hallelujah!!! I get to see my Jesus earlier than thought, but if we are to stay and witness,then praise God, He will prepare me for martyrdom. Either way, we are in His will.)

Just sharing my thoughts here~Your sister in Christ~Lauren


Posted by: emtorres

Quote:
Originally Posted by cuti4u34
I wonder with all the craziness and the evil in the world,,, because the bible does indicate Satan knows his tiime is short, and I really believe he is trying to do as much evil as possible, along with his evil demons, and trying to ensnare as many unbelieves as possible who have not yet found the Lord... I wonder though,, Does anyone think the Mark of the Beast will be in our generation??? I can only speculate because the bible does not say exactly when... I kind of think it is possible that this will happen in our generation and i try to educate my children now as much as possible.. God knows, I do not want them to recieve the Mark of the Beast. I also wonder about poor innocent new born babies who cant speak for themselves and yet im sure some of their unbelieving parents will possibley have them marked with the mark of the beast...(ive been told god will not hold them accountable as they did not actually accept it for themselves..) I have a 4yr old and IM trying to explain the mark of the beast to him ( he doesnt quite understand it yet)God knows i do not want my child marked, by the government, school system ect....Godwilling,, It would be nice if the rapture would occur before this, or that the Good Lord would take us out of this impending evil to come.. What is everyones opinion??

In today's local paper there is a huge article about chip implants that contain information regarding people's medical records that hospitals are trying to utilize. about 2,000 people already have them in the US and many others outside. The chip is implanted in the right arm, and can carry information, like personal finances, can allow the person to pay for items with just a swipe of the chip etc. I think it is already here, and only those with open minds can see it. Everything is happening all around us and although I am afraid, I am still able to see it. The hate in the world, the violence, the mark, the plagues and pestilence...Oh, I'm sure we're getting really close to the end of days.


Posted by: amyl

What a vision!!!!!!To think so many people will take the mark to get those things and give up on GOD.May GOD BLESS YOU!


Posted by: Christian Commando

Well, God gives us and Christ, specific signs to look for, to know when we are in the last days.

1- Are the growth in destructive power of natural disasters. Ask yourself, what have we seen for intensity's of natural disasterous occurances in the last 20 years?

2- Both declare these will also start happening more often as well. You can look at national statistics taken of intensities and frequency of occurances for a rise in both over the last 30 years even.

3- We have seen the wave of returning Jews to thier homeland for centuries now, with Isreal being claimed a state or nation once again back in the 50's.

4- According to related scripture signs about how man would change tpwards each other, we've seen this happening in the last 25 years. (Strange court cases and all).

I could go on and on with such things. But one major relevant point God and Christ make are that, we are to watch for these signs and recognize them to know when the "Son of man's return" is near.

This is why I've taken such an interest in that subject as well.

Regarding the "mark of the beast", know for sure that the technology is here and in force. I've read documentations of moves towards making it easier to track people most anywhere they go, thru various ways. This mark, could have something to do with any one of them, knowing they all play major roles in our lives.

But God declares that the rapture will happen shortly after the "man of perdition"- beast- antichrist, shall be revealed. Thus, the mark will not effect any of God's True children, but will those unsaved still here after the Rapture.

Those who recognize this afterwards and seek God then, will have to try and endure to the end, suffering greater persecution and more.

As for the vision shared, remember, God declares in the last days, He shall pour out His Spirit on people to dream dreams, see visions and more.

Now, some may not find this too interesting as are skeptical of things to come for actual proof. Well, look around people, too many other things are happening not to get interested enough to know we must seriously start looking to Heaven and watching and waiting for Christ's return.

I used to teach Studies and Classes on Revelations, Daniel, Ezekiel, Habacuk and more Books with lots of info on the "last Days". Very very exciting and interesting.

God Bless!!


Posted by: Stacy H.

I've kept my eyes open for the Mark since I was a little kid. Recently I found out about this new chip technology being used. There is a Hospital in Florida or Boston that puts chips in their patients so in case of emergency their info can be found. The hospital is linked with the Boston Red Sox as it being their official hospital for the players care. Also there is a club in Brazil,I think, or some beach resort area that the government is testing chip technology at. To be member of the club you get a chip imbedded in your finger. You can swipe it when you enter and use it for your drink tab. They're testing it out to see how people respond to the idea. I think it's kind of silly since a bar seems to be tapping into a weakness for some and inhibitions are down. But that's just me. I'll look again for links for these things I found.
EDIT 7/16/06
And in actually READING this whole thread I see I'm repeating some of what's already been said! LOL! ;>


Posted by: wanna-B-like-Jesus

The mark of the beast is totally on its way. The first phase of implementation is under way. I have seen many television shows that such as Alias and news programs talking about verichip and rfid tags. They will start with national ID cards wich Americans will start to get in 2008. After that ourgovernemnt will get rid of cash and moved towards a society where you can only pay with digital money. Then the chips will be implanted and without one, you will not be able to buy or sell or anything. Cameras will recognize you if you go out on the street, and you will be arrested and considered to be a terrorist.


Posted by: akabezalel

I think the ID card/Chip is nothing more than a red herring to keep the 'Christians' busy looking in the wrong direction.

The mark is going to be something from left field that no one was watching for because as a group we are too tied up in spreading paranoid conspiracy theories.


Posted by: wanna-B-like-Jesus

could be... however, its a mark that will prohibit those that dont have it from buying and selling. That sounds like left field to me... This is America, not "show us your papers!" Nazi Germany, or Soviet Russia. So, that is the real reason i am anti national IDs. Its not the card, its the database full of personal information that goes behind it that the government has no right to.

To clear things up, I am not a liberal. I am very conservative. I oppose gay marriage. I am very anti-abortion. I do, however, oppose fascism. please stop deleating my posts....


Posted by: akabezalel

My husband works for Homeland Security, if I told you some of the things I know you would go absolutely apoplectic!

I have known about the ID Card/Chip since the early 70's along with the bar code and numerous other theories... trust me, there are lots of them... I don't think you can call it left field.

As to the computers necessary for this database... they are already up, running and filling daily with information we ourselves put out on the internet including all our theories, prayers, employment and medical records. That too I have known for over 20 years.

Do not assume ignorance on my part or anyone else. You would do well to assume the character of Jesus as your name implies and stop being so angry and confrontational.

Jesus was an in-your-face kind of guy but he never attacked in anger except to cleanse the temple, since the temple now resides in us I suggest you start with yourself and let the Holy Spirit deal with others.


Posted by: Christian Commando

For many years, it's been very interesting to research such things. As Akabezalel said tho, we cannot prove anything that has been discussed, unless it has been documented proved to be such a thing.

Thus, while I love investigating such points, I do not believe 100% in many points, as situations can change. After all, this Col. Sanders who helped develope the microchip he talks about as a saved and reborn Christian, was only developed back in the early to mid 1990's.

This does not prove his is the one. It may be the technology break thru for a future one or some other method that spins off of that. We cannot know for sure at this stage of the times.

As with me, most other ministers who speak of the end times about such areas, will say they expect or assume or believe, yet that is saying it's not proven as yet.

So, lets all keep our minds open, but keep watching for developements. Christ declares to be watchful, and you can't if not paying attention to world events and more.

God will have all things unfold as He declares, but we won't know specifics in all ways, until we actually witness the proof.

God Bless!!


Posted by: anitarose

Well I have a funny for you...don't count on a microchip being the Mark...it was invented by and the patent and company owned by a Christian...and Dr. Hilton Sutton owns stock in the company!

God bless!
Anita


Posted by: guardianangel

I used to be terrified of this subject when I was a child sitting in church. I think that the mark will be both spiritual and physical. But I believe in the Rapture.


Posted by: Favor of God

Quote:
Originally Posted by cuti4u34
I wonder with all the craziness and the evil in the world,,, because the bible does indicate Satan knows his tiime is short, and I really believe he is trying to do as much evil as possible, along with his evil demons, and trying to ensnare as many unbelieves as possible who have not yet found the Lord... I wonder though,, Does anyone think the Mark of the Beast will be in our generation??? I can only speculate because the bible does not say exactly when... I kind of think it is possible that this will happen in our generation and i try to educate my children now as much as possible.. God knows, I do not want them to recieve the Mark of the Beast. I also wonder about poor innocent new born babies who cant speak for themselves and yet im sure some of their unbelieving parents will possibley have them marked with the mark of the beast...(ive been told god will not hold them accountable as they did not actually accept it for themselves..) I have a 4yr old and IM trying to explain the mark of the beast to him ( he doesnt quite understand it yet)God knows i do not want my child marked, by the government, school system ect....Godwilling,, It would be nice if the rapture would occur before this, or that the Good Lord would take us out of this impending evil to come.. What is everyones opinion??
I believe the Mark of the Beast will happen in our time and fairly soon.....I also believe that all true believers will be Raptured before this takes place, for God has not destined us for wrath, and this will be wrath, as Satan enters the Anti-Christ.

I also see many Christians drawn into the New Religion of Tolerance and Emerging Chruch, that Ric Warren is drawing many good people into this web of deciet. Jesus said, he did not come to bring peace but a sword, that sword divides, believers from unbelievers, but will also divide Christians who are in name only, and have not given there hearts over to the Lord in obedience. This change that is taking place is called the Emerging Church, its twisted and evil. The Chruch as we now know it has changed, it has been seduced by New Age thinking, through tolerance and political correct thinking. There will always be a rement of God's people be they in church or home churches. But, many of God's people are feeling uncomfortable in thier churches due to this new "rave" of Ric Warren, good people are being blinded the this Luciferic light and are now traveling down this road that leads to hell.

Ric Warren's words sound snuggly and warm, they sound good to the ear, but they are full of deciet. It is New Age dressed up in Christian clothing with words that twist and turn. God is in everybody and every where. NOT! If that were so there would be no need for Jesus dying on the cross or the need of salvation.

We are seeing nations realining, wickedness increasing, Knowledge speeding up, easy access to traveling in a day to any part in the world, plagues, changes in the Sun, Moon and stars, weather changes, we are losing our fresh water around the world and our seas that use to be full of food is disappearing and much more.....

Today three religions are looking for God to come soon.....Jews, Chistians and Muslims. One is different, the Mahadi of the Muslims. Right now in Iraq there is an army known as the Mahadi's Army, many have gone to Iran now since the new government is cracking down. And Iran is gearing up for this man's coming....are we close, I believe we are.....much closer than many of us think.

Now is the time of Salvation....for our Redeemer draws neigh....

God Bless to all <><


Posted by: Christian Commando

As for if the "mark of the beast" will be in our time, yes, it will. Who will be alive to see this, only God knows. But, Christ had said, the generation who sees the signs of His soon return, shall not pass away before seeing the return of the Son of man.

God also tells us more specifically tho too- II Thes. 2:2-4, Paul, by the Holy Spirit, warns us not to be shaken in mind, but to know that Christ's return is "at hand"- translated means- very close to occurring- imminent.

3- That no one should decieve us by any means, for Christ's return won't come, until there is a "falling away first", or (an apostacy from Christianity). and "the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition". 4- Calling himself God and exalting himself above all that is called God, etc.

So, we can know then, at the least, the anti-christ will be revealled, but nothing said of the "Mark of the Beast", which surely will come later. But, according to God's Word, once the anti-christ appears and is publicly known, it will only be 7 years from the day he takes power of the "one world government" before Christ then bodily returns to earth the second time, as King og Kings ad Lord of Lords.

God Bless!!


Posted by: BrendaMagana

Dear Lord God, please empower Your children before hand with the strength and the will they will need to reject the mark of the beast and to keep faith when the anti-christ finally decides, to take a brief control of this fleeting world.

Prepare all Your children for exploits wherever they may be across the globe.

In fill them with Your Holy Spirit so that they will be able to recognize and refrain from the innocent but subtle and dangerous marks of the beast that are slowly but surely permeating this world.

In the Name of Jesus Christ. Amen


Posted by: peapod

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Originally Posted by Christian Commando
As for if the "mark of the beast" will be in our time, yes, it will. Who will be alive to see this, only God knows. But, Christ had said, the generation who sees the signs of His soon return, shall not pass away before seeing the return of the Son of man.

God also tells us more specifically tho too- II Thes. 2:2-4, Paul, by the Holy Spirit, warns us not to be shaken in mind, but to know that Christ's return is "at hand"- translated means- very close to occurring- imminent.

3- That no one should decieve us by any means, for Christ's return won't come, until there is a "falling away first", or (an apostacy from Christianity). and "the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition". 4- Calling himself God and exalting himself above all that is called God, etc.

So, we can know then, at the least, the anti-christ will be revealled, but nothing said of the "Mark of the Beast", which surely will come later. But, according to God's Word, once the anti-christ appears and is publicly known, it will only be 7 years from the day he takes power of the "one world government" before Christ then bodily returns to earth the second time, as King og Kings ad Lord of Lords.

God Bless!!
I agree with this

If I may add, I also believe that, thanks to the Holy Spirit, we won't be blind as to what the "mark" would be. I think when it comes about we will know full stop what we should reject.

I am also of the camp that microchips at this time are not the mark. They could be, however, should the future Antichrist want to use that as his system.

The fact they were invented by a Christian does not mean they can't be used for evil purposes. Max Planck was a Christian who is dubbed the father of nuclear physics, and we all know what a mess that turned into.


Posted by: huggybob46

A few weeks ago, I was reading somewhere that they are experimenting with some kind of tattoo that is only visible under ultraviolet light. If this would be implemented on a wide-scale basis, the tattoo would be given either in the right hand or forehead!! Get ready, brothers and sisters, we're going home soon!




Posted by: Christian Commando

Very good responces both of you. The one thing to remember is, first, it will be visible to the naked eye, just as Cain's "mark" from God was visible. For God declares, he who kills Cain who is marked shall suffer worse. And Lameck came home and told his family he had killed the "marked" man Cain and was now cursed.

Secondly- The "mark" has to be easily and quickly administered to as many as will accept it, that they might buy, sell or trade goods etc.

Personally, I'm in favor of the computer microchip point myself, as that as many leaders have claimed will become the "way of the world" of which it has alot already and advances faster than any other aspect we know of today.

Now, this ex military electronics expert Colonel Sanders, tells how, as unsaved, he helped develope this microchip technology. But, after gettig saved and reborn, retired and left the field to avoid being involved with it, because of learning of this "mark of the beast" situation. And he goes around teaching about this as well.

But, who knows, the Rapture of the Saints will happen before the "Mark" is administered, thus we will be in Heaven by then.

God Bless!!


Posted by: dd2collin

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Originally Posted by akabezalel
I simply do not waste my time wondering and worrying about things that will happen in God's time after the Church is removed from the earth.



Great answer....


Posted by: Samuel_W

I read a very interesting article about such things a few days ago. I cant find the site right now to link, but to sum it up... A big hollywood producer, named Aaron Russo i think, was asked by his secretary if he wanted to meet one of the Rockefellers. The Rockefeller family, if you dont know, is one of the most powerful families in the world. In David Rockefellers own memoir, he talks about how he is part of a group trying to set up a global government.

Anyways Aaron Russo met with this Rockefeller- i dont think it was David Rockefeller but his son- dont know his first name.

Anyways during their conversation Rockefeller started telling Aaron about a lot of things that are not common knowledge... for instance he said that the womens suffrage and womens rights issues were propaganda to get women into the work force so that they could be taxed just like the men.

He then told Aaron about plans to have everyone on the planet microchiped so that everyone could be tracked easily. He told Aaron that if he were to promote the idea and join up with the Rockefellers in their plan, he would get a special microchip, that made sure that he would never be bothered by police and he would be getting special treatment wherever he wnet.

He also mentioned that anyone could have their microchip turned off and that person would not be able to work or buy and sell.
This was all very eerie to me, I immidiatly thought of the mark of the beast.

Aaron did not join with the Rockefellers and the two left each other on bad terms. Aaron had since made a documentary trying to expose these people. he died about a year ago from cancer.


Posted by: Christian Commando

Samuel_W-

You hit on a major point I spoke of early in this thread. Tests had already been done back thru the mid 1990's on this microchip- (latest one developed). It was found between testing on animals and birds, they were traced all over the world, no matter where they were put and or traveled to.

The strange part was, is on man, it functioned the best when it was injected under the skin on the forehead or back of a hand.

Secondly- This microchip, even tho hidden under the skin, is operated by a miniture lithium battery, that after so much time, starts to leak its internal acidic fluid. when this happens, a red spot first appears. Then before long, it gets like a small blister. Eventually, this pops and an open sore appears.

Scientists have claimed this does not harm the person, but neither have they been able to find anything that can heal the wound. Even after removal of the microchip, the sore, because the acidic fluid is still present in the skin and absorbed by the surrounding area, never disappears, so never heals.

Third- This microchip is claimed so small it can't be seen with the naked eye, and is injected with a hypodermic needle. Yet, this microchip can store so much info, no one human could ever do more, eat more, buy, sell or trade more, etc, in thier lifetime, enough to ever come close to filling the storage memory of that chip.

fourth- Its een claimed by particular Christian Leaders, that a "Mega Computer" is being built as we speak since the 90's, over in Europe, in order to operate the new "coding system" they have developed for all transactions of materials and other goods between Countries, instead of using monetary methods.

Fifth- There is also documented proof, those Leaders in Europe involved with this new system, have come to the US also back in the 90's, to speak with the major voting States of the US concerning the US Businesses based originally from the US now overseas, to help convince them to back up getting this new "coding system" passed for use in the US.

I suspect this is to get the US as a Nation not only to adopt this for international purposes but Nationally as well.

Trust me, like the treaty talked about between Canada, US and Mexico, among other points, there are most certainly, other things going on hidden to the general populace, we may never know until they either come out for a vote, or we are notified they were already passed.

I admit openly now, with the strange changes going on with all candidates for our President right now, Jesus was right in things growing worse over time.

God Bless!!


Posted by: Samuel_W

Seeing such evil emerging out into the open gives me the chills. We can pray, although we know as christians how this ends, the general public is not aware. God will give us comfort and make us strong.

He will give us courage to confront these things as we see them emerge. We can alert our friends. He will help us bring all that is hidden into view.

I pray that God gives us wisdom. i pray for hidden information to be made available.

like i said we know how this ends, because God does not want us to be decieved, He gave us the prophecies.

People are becoming more and more aware of these elite mad men's agenda. Even those who are not christian are becoming aware of the evil growing up around the globe and their dark plans for humanity. However, the more these people learn the more discouraging the situation becomes. This is why it is our responsablity for those of us who understand these events to put them in the proper light. To show those who are becoming aware of these things that they need not dispair, because the battle is already won.

Very true commando, the current presidential race is a pony show. All the candidates have the same agenda. i know a lot of you on this board will not accept this, but it is true. look at where their campaign money comes from : republicans and democrats alike... The 3 remaining candidates are bought and paid for by the same interests. This way, those behind the scenes can hedge their bets and make sure that they will HAVE their person in the white house. So yes, things will get worse, wich is why i believe it is soooo important for us to understand this. WE ARE HERE IN THE LAST DAYS TO ALERT THE MASSES AND BRING ABOUT REVIVAL!


Posted by: Christian Commando

Yes,thats for sure. But much of the unsaved world has heard the Word preached about this stuff, they just don't take it in or believe or accept it is all. But... the day will come when they will die and find out they should've listened, and those alive, if realize the Truth, can change that, unless drawn into the falsehood.

It will be thier choice. As to those who don't hear these Truths of God, I'm suspect God knows who won't accept It anyway, so whats the difference if they hear it or not?

See, God declares the Gospel shall be preached in "all the world", but He never says "all ears shall hear" It preached. So, I know God knows already who will accept and who won't, so as to know where it will be heard for those who will accept the Truth can make that choice. And I'm of the belief, God will open the doors for us to reach those He knows will accept the Gospel.

I know sometimes we think something is unfair towards particular people, but we don't know all God does, but God judges rightceously, because He is all knowing and we aren't hehe.

But, when look at world population being in the billions, the few that will enter out of the many that shall come, will still be in the millions. So, theres plenty more ears that still need to hear God's Truth for sure.

I'm also seeing, with this latest candidate race, the spreading of the Gospel will end up being a considerable task as time goes on and evil waxes worse. Its definitely going to be more difficult than back in the days God Evangelized full time thru me.

I don't honestly know if this is God's plan for me, but I've been spending much more time working with younger Christians helping them learn how to develope thier individual ways to reach people more with the Gospel. The Gospel is spread alot faster, with more of His children confident enough in themselves and taught how to develope thier own style for sharing the Gospel to fit them and others like them, than if leave it to a select few.

God Bless!!