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Difference God's love /our love

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Posted by: Frederik

I think no human can simply love God without being loved by God, this just doesn't work. God is like the sun and we recieve the warmth but we cannot be warm on our own. The bible also makes this difference clear when it comes to the love of a husband towards his wife. The husband loves his wife with a sort of unconditional love, the wife on the other hand loves the husband because he loves her. I think we only love God cause he loves us, but what if you don't feel God's love ? How can you love him then ?
Wouldn't you love God more than you do right now if he allowed you to feel his love ? Absolutely. This is how humans are. I don't even know if I really love God, I mean I don't even know him nor have I felt his love.



Posted by: StarChilde

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Originally Posted by Frederik
I think no human can simply love God without being loved by God, this just doesn't work. God is like the sun and we recieve the warmth but we cannot be warm on our own. The bible also makes this difference clear when it comes to the love of a husband towards his wife. The husband loves his wife with a sort of unconditional love, the wife on the other hand loves the husband because he loves her. I think we only love God cause he loves us, but what if you don't feel God's love ? How can you love him then ?
Wouldn't you love God more than you do right now if he allowed you to feel his love ? Absolutely. This is how humans are. I don't even know if I really love God, I mean I don't even know him nor have I felt his love.

I don't believe this is coming from the same person who posted about getting popcorn in another thread,...
Frederik..i do not love my husband just because he loves me..and not all husbands have unconditional love...and i pray God zaps you so hard with His love that you won't even be able to move..and you will lay there..thinking... wow God..and the only reason you don't feel God is something you are doing...it ain't God's fault...



Posted by: Frederik

Yes, pray and pray and pray we'll see what comes around.



Posted by: Dewheart

Jesus looked at him and loved him.
"One thing more you lack," he said, "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.
Then come, follow me."
Mark 10:21
Amen



Posted by: Frederik

So what exactly are you trying to tell me,Dew ?
I am not wealthy. Don't you think I'd follow Jesus ? I would but how can I follow him when he doesn't tell me where ?



Posted by: Frederik

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Originally Posted by StarChilde
I don't believe this is coming from the same person who posted about getting popcorn in another thread,...
Frederik..i do not love my husband just because he loves me..and not all husbands have unconditional love...and i pray God zaps you so hard with His love that you won't even be able to move..and you will lay there..thinking... wow God..and the only reason you don't feel God is something you are doing...it ain't God's fault...


Then tell me what I'm doing wrong ! This is a jungle and I am terribly swamped. I don't know what to do.
It's like you wanna defuse a bomb but there are 1000 wires and you have no clue which one to cut through, this is how I feel. And after all everybody makes mistakes and everybody pushes God away somehow, after all it's down to his grace. Either God wants to help me or he doesn't, he always has more than enough reasons not to help me. It's down to his grace.



Posted by: StarChilde

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Originally Posted by Frederik
Then tell me what I'm doing wrong ! This is a jungle and I am terribly swamped. I don't know what to do.
It's like you wanna defuse a bomb but there are 1000 wires and you have no clue which one to cut through, this is how I feel. And after all everybody makes mistakes and everybody pushes God away somehow, after all it's down to his grace. Either God wants to help me or he doesn't, he always has more than enough reasons not to help me. It's down to his grace.

frederik... you make fun of my posts..then you ask what it is you are doing wrong..you have been given suggestions to help...honestly now, and you do not even have to post it here...be honest with yourself...how many have you tried?I pushed God away with one hand while drawing Him to me with another.. it is called being double-minded,God does not like it! Yes i was a Christian...i believed..i prayed..i confessed... I didn't repent tho..I did not turn away from my sin and stop. Do you think it is easy to come on here and tell you this? I do though...why? I don't want you to walk through the desert like I done for so many years...missing out on the blessings you could've had!
It is not with a spirit of condemnation that I say things...it is in the spirit of love... His love...frederik...there are times when God confirms what I've been praying about or needing so many times in a day..it astounds me... how does He do it? Through ppl speaking to me..just like I am doing now with you..PLEASE DO NOT SHUT YOURSELF OFF FROM GOD'S BLESSINGS JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT A BIG BOOMING OUT OF THE SKY THIS IS GOD experience... the ppl here love you...maybe you should think on that..we want you hearing from God..but you keep stopping Him from getting through... we'll continue praying for you... you believe it is working.... i will post layer,,kaelyn woke up... with His love... Suzanne



Posted by: Frederik

You have a wrong picture of me. I don't have problems with repenting I also know that often I behave impossible, but the problem is that I can't help and the fact that God just isn't there causes me to become angry over and over again. I can't do anything against it.
I think it would be even worse if I didn't get angry at God at all, this would show that I don't care about him and my relationship with him. If I didn't care about him I also wouldn't feel neglected.



Posted by: Dewheart

'Return to Israel, to the LORD your God,
Your sins have been your downfall!
Take words with you and return to the LORD.
Say to him: "Forgive all our sins and
receive us graciously, that we may offer
the fruit of our lips.

Assyria cannot save us;
we will not mount war-horses.
WE will never again say 'Our gods' to
what our own hands have made, for in you
the fatherless find compassion.

"I will heal their waywardness AND LOVE THEM FREELY,
for my anger has turned away from them.

I will be like the dew to Israel;
he will blossom like a lily.
Like a cedar of Lebanon
he will send down his roots;
his young shoots will grow.

His splendor will be like an olive tree,
his fragrance like a cedar of Lebanon.

Men will dwell in his shade.
He will flourish like the grain.
He will blossom like a vine, and his fame will be like the wine
from Lebanon.

O Ephraim, what more have I to do with idols?
I will answer him and care for him.
I am like a green pine tree; your fruitfulness comes from me."

Who is wise? HE WILL REALIZE THESE THINGS.
Who is discerning? He will understand them.
The ways of the LORD are right;
the righteous walk in them,
but the rebellious stumble in them.'
Hosea 14

'HOW GOOD AND PLEASANT IT IS WHEN BROTHERS
DWELL TOGETHER IN UNITY! IT IS LIKE PRECIOUS OIL POURED ON THE HEAD, RUNNING DOWN ON THE BEARD, RUNNING DOWN ON ARRON'S BEARD, DOWN UPON THE COLLAR OF HIS ROBES. IT IS AS IF THE DEW OF HERMON WERE FALLING ON MOUNT ZION. FOR THERE THE LORD BESTOWS HIS BLESSING, EVEN LIFE FOREVERMORE.'
Psalm 133

Amen, and amen.



Posted by: Frederik

You know Dew, I would find it much better if you replied on a personal level and try to help me instead of copying and pasting the whole bible, I have a bible at home. Thank you.



Posted by: Dewheart

You have a lot to learn son. There are only two things on this earth that
are God-breathed-human beings and the word of God. And when we as
God-breathed Christians begin to pray the God-breathed scriptures TRHOUGH THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST, there is no force in hell that can come against us. That was the whole idea. The Bible is a recipe book. God directed me to your situation in the scriptures this morning. Did you not hear him tell you how much he loves you and will care for you? NOTHING I COULD HAVE PRAYED COMPARES WITH WHAT GOD HIMSELF HAS ALREADY SPOKEN. The Scriptures are the LIVING words of God. This is true, literally. I felt like Helen Keller
when I first discovered this. And man oh man it only gets more exciting
every day. I pray God will reveal this all-surpassing mystery of the
gospel to you soon. Amen.

'WE WHO THROUGH FAITH SUBDUED KINGDOMS, WROUGHT RIGHTEOUSNESS, OBTAINED PROMISES, STOPPED THE MOUTHS OF LIONS, OUT OF WEAKNESS WERE MADE STRONG.'
HEB. 11:33-34
GLORY BE TO GOD!!!
AMEN.

NOW GO READ YOUR BIBLE!



Posted by: jedijeb

Frederik, the love of God is nothing like the love of man. True love can not be experienced till you are one of God's children. Even then we have to learn how to experience the love God gives us. So many times we keep looking for God's love as something like the world's love, something we have to earn. You were right, it is unconditional. I used to have trouble accepting unconditional love too. Problem most of us have is that it is not only a love that holds us tight when we are feeling sad or hurt but one that also corrects us when we are wrong. God's love teaches us and guides us and is not one that is easy to fall into completely all at once. God's love is so different from ours that it takes time, alot of time often, for us to understand it and learn to express it in our own lives. Can you sit back and watch someone walk off with your favorite coat without chasing after them to take it back? You can once you have let God's love change your love to be like His. You will start out going after that guy to take it back, later you will be able to just yell at him to bring it back, later still you will only get frustrated by it, when God has really worked His love into your heart you will be able to run to him and give him your shirt also, even on the coldest day and say " You must need this more than I, take this for I love you". Before you laugh at what I said think of this. Through your sins you took God's very Son from Him, yes for if we didn't sin Jesus would not have had to die. But did God grab Jesus and take Him back from us, NO, He gave Him to us and then gave us the Holy Spirit and said " You need these more than I do, here take them and be saved" . That is God's love, and we can all have it in us if we only let Him have His way with us. Don't be afraid to be heart broken over God, because only with a broken and contrite spirit can we truely let God mold us into what we should be.



Posted by: Dewheart

i have so much to learn Freddy. Please forgive me. I hope you have a Yabba Dabba Doo kinda day today.

'Then King David went in and sat before the LORD, and he said:
"Who am I, O LORD God, and what is my family, that you have brought me this far?" '
1 Chronicles 17:16
amen