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Important question concerning faith/prayer

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Posted by: Frederik

When we pray to God and when we're supposed to have faith, are we supposed to have faith that God will grant our request OR are we supposed to simply have faith in God that he does the right thing ?


This is a very important question, maybe somebody can answer it, cause I have to know it.
The problem is that not everything we pray for will be granted, so how can we be 100% faithful when we know at the same time that it's possible that it won't be granted ? You can only have faith in something which is constant, like God for example.
The bible promises for example that you're whole family will be saved, but at the same time I know how hard the heart of my father is and God won't change him against his will, so how can I have the maximum of faith when praying ? I always think that God won't change him against his will and that he actually can't grant my request.


Posted by: quickdraw

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Originally Posted by Frederik
When we pray to God and when we're supposed to have faith, are we supposed to have faith that God will grant our request OR are we supposed to simply have faith in God that he does the right thing ?


This is a very important question, maybe somebody can answer it, cause I have to know it.
The problem is that not everything we pray for will be granted, so how can we be 100% faithful when we know at the same time that it's possible that it won't be granted ? You can only have faith in something which is constant, like God for example.
The bible promises for example that you're whole family will be saved, but at the same time I know how hard the heart of my father is and God won't change him against his will, so how can I have the maximum of faith when praying ? I always think that God won't change him against his will and that he actually can't grant my request.


Frederik, I am NO theological expert, but I believe that as we pray, our will comes gradually into His will, meaning that we begin to want what He wants for us!

As for praying for people with hard hearts, I WAS ONE!! AND TOTALLY OPPOSED TO ANYTHING CHRISTIAN ENTERING MY LIFE!!

The lady who prayed me into the Kingdom, had a specific Word from God "THAT ONE, PRAY FOR HER!!"

She was obedient and kept praying, regardless of much opposition that came against her and her family, I think, when it's our family members, (since I came to the Lord, I have warfared constantly for my two grown daughters and my 12yr old son), AS WE CONTINUE TO BRING THE DESIRE OF OUR HEARTS FOR OUR LOVED ONES SALVATION, HE BRINGS OTHERS TO TOUCH THEM!! Neither of my grown daughters came to the Lord thru me, within 6wks of one another, they came separately, and it was NOT me who said the Salvation prayer with them, BUT I DID GET TO TAKE THEM UP NORTH, AND HELP BAPTISE THEM WITH MY SPIRITUAL DAD IN THE SEA, WHERE I WAS BAPTISED A FEW YEARS BEFORE!!!!!! PRAISE GOD!!!!! (Since then, I have had the blessing of having my 12yr old son come into my room at 12.30 at night a couple of months ago, and ask me to lead him in the Salvation Prayer, I had witnessed the Lord taking him thru a very personal experience of Him, and I had also been blessed to pray for peace for him, twice, when he was suffering from terrible anxiety and Father God ANSWERED IMMEDIATELY WITH HIS PERFECT PEACE!!)My son now KNOWS where his peace comes from, The LORD let him experience the difference!!

He tells us in His Word, that He does NOT want anyone to perish! And I believe that, BECAUSE HE WILL NOT MOVE AGAINST OUR WILL, He calls us to pray His will into manifestion, here on earth AS HIS WILL IS IN HEAVEN ALREADY!!

Does that make sense to you??? I hope so!! I hope this is of some help!

Forever His,
Sharon


Posted by: Frederik

But what about praying for other things ? I mean we never know if God really grants it so how can we have total faith in it ?


Posted by: quickdraw

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Originally Posted by Frederik
But what about praying for other things ? I mean we never know if God really grants it so how can we have total faith in it ?


God's Holy Word says:

Heb 11:1
Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen!

READ FAITH CHAPTER, (HEBREWS 11)

I believe He will prompt SOMEONE (by His Holy Spirit), to pray His will into the situation, we start the process by lifting these people up to Him!!

Forever His,
Sharon


Posted by: jedijeb

Praying for someones salvation gets tricky because like you said Frederik God won't just force them into it. Now as for praying for other things, like jobs, or help or things, the Bible says to ask in faith. But it also says that we ask and do not have because we ask with wrong motives, to use what we ask for for our own lusts. To truely pray, first pray and ask God to have the Holy Spirit tell you what His will is for your life, then pray for the things He wants you to have and have faith that He will provide it. If you ask for money so you can go out and get drunk or something like that God wont grant it, but if you ask for money to buy food to keep from starving and have faith He will provide God will do it, maybe it will be someone taking you out to lunch or maybe you will happen to find a $5 bill lying on the sidewalk but He will provide. Let Him guide you in what to pray and it will be answered.