Nothing makes sense.
I just thought about my stupid testimony and it's so absurd I think it was all a coincidence.
I mean nothing makes sense what if I became a christian because of a coincidence and God never wanted me ?
YOu know I didn't even ask God for help I just prayed to a god, at this time I didn't even think about who this god is, later I thought that it can only be the christian god, but if I had grown up in China I would have thought that it was a different god. And even after became a christian nothing changed, I mean there was no holy spirit telling me what's wrong and what's right. I simply changed because I talked to other christians on the internet and I learned some things from them.
That's all, it's all based on ourselves wanting to change or whatever, if I found out that God doesn't exist then I'd be the same old person within 1 second and all the hatred would be back, I cheat myself.
I think I'm not even nice, I just do this cause God is up there watching me.
Posted by: Donm
Oh ye of little faith -
What if it all WAS just a coincidence Frederik? What if you really were praying to some other God? What if God really doesn't want you? What if there really is NO God at all? What if Jesus really didn't rise on the third day as His Word states? hmmm... no hope it seems.
Listen to what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15:17,19
If Christ is not raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins . . . (v19) we are of all men most to be pitied. (1 Cor 15:17,19)
"If", such a small word. But that small word acts as a "hinge" that would swing one way or the other. And it's the Words with which this "hinge" is connected that makes the hinge swing one way or the other.
I choose to connect "Faith" words....
Let's look at the things above a different way... By the way "Faith" will cause you to look at things differently.... same statments as above, but watch the change....
"What if it WASN'T just a coincidence Frederik? What if you really WERE praying to God? What if God really DOES want you? What if there really IS a God after all? What if Jesus really DID rise on the third day as His Word states?" Wow, different outlook now... there is hope.
Learn to connect Words of Faith to your "hinge" (If) ... I DON'T think it was a coincidence Frederik... and I don't think that it was coiincidence that I read this post ... I believe that God wanted me to see your post and then He wanted me to respond with His Words to you.
Frederik - God wants me to say to you now... He heard you the very first day that you prayed... and I am now come at thy Word. This word is specifically for you Frederik. He hears you.
Will you believe?
Let Him "increase" your faith right now Frederik. Trust Him...
Posted by: Frederik
How can you know that he hears me ? Even if he hears me he doesn't do anything, so it doesn't matter wether he hears me and doesn't do anything or wether he doesn't hear me at all.
"What if it WASN'T just a coincidence Frederik? What if you really WERE praying to God? What if God really DOES want you? What if there really IS a God after all? What if Jesus really DID rise on the third day as His Word states?" Wow, different outlook now... there is hope."
This also isn't faith. Do you think God likes it when we think: Maybe Jesus rose on the third day....
And what do you mean with hope ? Do you hope that God exists ? When you say that you hope that God exists then you also don't have faith.
Posted by: Frederik
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Originally Posted by Donm
Frederik - God wants me to say to you now... He heard you the very first day that you prayed...
You know this is so funny about christians.
Everybody has his own opinions. Jerry told me that God cannot even have heard me when I prayed cause God doesn't hear the prayer of sinners. This means either you or Jerry are wrong.
Tell me, how can I have faith when everybody has his own opinions ? This is ridiculous. But maybe the bible also got manipulated over the decades by the church. I don't know what to believe right now.
But I've heard it very often that the church simply changed stuff in the bible and added other things, you cannot simply deny that and blindly believe that everything is 100% correct, this is naive.
The church wanted to suppress the people and to scare them, maybe they simply added some things about hell, who knows. I don't know but thinking that the bible is 100% correct seems naive to me.
Imagine somebody starts changing the bible today and prints his own versions, do you think God would allow this ? I don't think he'd do anything. Maybe we are here on earth and read this old book which doesn't have much in common with the original and think about different sentences and meanings and try to find out the deeper sense or certain phrases. It's very well possible that only during the translation-process meanings were changed or misunderstood, sometimes the meaning of a whole sentence depends on the form of one single verb wether it's present tense or past tense or whatever. I cannot imagine that everything is 100% accurate. Don't you feel like cheating yourself ? I mean you simply believe it and don't even criticize anything. It simply has to be right cause the bible is God's word bla bla bla.... Even if it could be proven that the bible was manipulated then you still wouldn't believe it you'd still hide behind your beliefs cause they are holy, nothing can touch them. Come on, we haven't heard anything of Jesus for 2000 years now, where is he ? And why are all the things from the bible gone ? I don't see obsessed people anymore, why do they no longer exist ? Did God end it or what ? When Satan is so active then why aren't there any more exorcisms performed ? This was done a lot in the last centuries but it ended and you know why it ended ? Cause the people are no longer as naive as they used to be. Tell me, when Adam and Eve were both white, how can black people exist today ? And how can asian people exist ? When 2 white people have children the children will also be white and never ever will there be black children from white parents and never ever will there be asian children from white parents, this is simply so dumb, don't you see that it makes no sense at all ? I really feel like I cannot believe this stuff any longer it insults my intelligence.
This is why hardly anybody today is able to believe in God cause the bible seems simply so much made up, just imagine Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden...they are having fun and walking around and everything is wonderful... come on, are you 4 years old that you're able to believe in this ? Do you really believe it or do you just tell yourself that you believe it ? I am having problems believing such stuff, I also don't believe in fairy tales.
And the moral of the story is: Don't eat apples especially not when snakes tell you to.
Posted by: Donm
"Jerry told me that God cannot even have heard me when I prayed cause God doesn't hear the prayer of sinners. This means either you or Jerry are wrong."
No, the trouble is not with what Jerry or I said. We are correct. The problem is with what you have heard or understood.
The only prayer that God hears from a sinner (one who is unrepentant), is the prayer of repentance (forgiveness). But, you have asked forgiveness and repented - He heard you. He still HEARS you... and you must understand also the word "Hear". When it says that God doesn't HEAR the prayer of sinners... the word "HEAR" refers to answer. He hears everything at all times.
I don't say this to put you down in any way... but Frederik, you are in need of teaching, instruction in God's Word. This is why I asked earlier if you attend church anywhere and also if there were any spirit filled people that you could fellowship with that would help encourage and strengthen you there in Germany.
Yesterday, after answering a few of your posts... I went into intercessory prayer for you... I prayed for a couple of hours... I am praying that God will reveal Himself to you as never before.
I am praying that God will send someone your way that will be a spiritual partner with you... to teach you and instruct you in theways of the Lord... to encourage you and strengthen you. To help build your faith in God and the things of God. Someone that will be a true friend to you - that will reveal the personality and character of God to you.
You stated....
"How can you know that he hears me ? Even if he hears me he doesn't do anything, so it doesn't matter wether he hears me and doesn't do anything or wether he doesn't hear me at all.
"What if it WASN'T just a coincidence Frederik? What if you really WERE praying to God? What if God really DOES want you? What if there really IS a God after all? What if Jesus really DID rise on the third day as His Word states?" Wow, different outlook now... there is hope."
This also isn't faith. Do you think God likes it when we think: Maybe Jesus rose on the third day....
And what do you mean with hope ? Do you hope that God exists ? When you say that you hope that God exists then you also don't have faith."
This also isn't faith? What is it then? Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
Hmmmm? See... I have the hope that Jesus did indeed rise on the third day... and why do I hope? Because I wasn't there personally to see that it actually happened. So, I have this hope that Jesus did rise and is seated at the right hand of God.... and I also have the FAITH to believe what God's Word says concerning Jesus rising on the third day.
If you would spend more of your time believing (using your Faith) God's Word, rather than doubting it will have an effect on you. Just as what doubting is now having an effect on you. Through doubt the enemy is stealing the Word of God from your heart
The enemy is trying to "steal" your peace, so that he can steal the Word from your heart right now... and in so doing - doubt has now crept in. Doubt is the "enemy" of Faith.
Take a stand Frederik, and believe God's Word is true... don't allow the enemy to take your peace... refuse to turn loose of God's Word... and watch your Faith grow.
Father, send someone to Frederik... may people cross his path that will lead him, encourage him, teach him, and instruct him in the things of God.
Father, help his faith... give him hope... help him to grasp Your Word and never let go... I speak peace to Frederik right now... may your peace overwhelm him. In the Name of Jesus - Amen.
I will try and help you in any way that I can ... go to our website and read the articles there (not trying to lead you away from this website... just trying to help you with some teaching)
Stay away from websites that do not build your faith... (i.e. websites that put down other ministries, and seek to "expose" the false) - how do those sites build your faith? They don't ... they actually tear your faith down. Avoid them.
I hope that I have helped you - hang in there Frederik.
Posted by: Frederik
And this "everybody gets his chance" stuff is also nonsense.
There are millions of people which never ever heard anything about Jesus, how are they supposed to find him ?
Do you think they'll all get visions of Jesus ? Come on ! This is ridiculous. People die without ever having the chance of making a decision, this is how it is. We are lucky but you wanna tell me that others which die and never knew him go to hell ? This is ridiculous.
How does this chance look like ? Does every human being once in his life hear the name Jesus and then he's supposed to give his life to Jesus instantly ? How often have we heard about Jesus before we became christians ? I heard about him in school and didn't care, so how can we expect other people to be different ? Even if a muslim hears about Jesus once in his life, then can we expect him to convert to christianity right away and throw all his beliefs and everything which he ever believed in over board ? I think you know as good as me that nobody does that. When you have believed in something your whole life then you cannot quit it right away.
There are simply so many unanswered questions and so many things which make no sense. When really everbody gets his chance, then why do we have missionaries ? Why did Jesus send his disciples ? Why did Paul travel so much ? Everybody gets his chance anyway, we don't even need bibles anymore, cause everybody gets his chance.
Angels will come and visit every single human being and tell him about Jesus and then they'll ask him wether he wants to accept him or not.... Honestly, can you believe that ? I can't.
Posted by: Frederik
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I didn't pray for repentance when I first prayed to God, at this time I didn't even know about this whole sin/forgiveness stuff. I just prayed for help cause I was exhausted, that's all. I felt like I needed help from somebody who is above all things and I prayed, I think many people simply do that when they come to a point where they face a problem which is too big. This means that God was not the one who actually helped me and that myself thinking that he helped me is wrong. That means that me becoming a christian because of thinking that he actually helped me was simply based on a coincidence.
q.e.d.
ps: You pray hours for me ? Thanks, but nothing changes and nobody will come my way and teach me anything.
I have given up this naive thinking and hoping game. I feel like this is the end, I cannot simply believe cause I want to and deny all the things which make no sense, I cannot do that, maybe you can.
Posted by: Renske
if everyone stopped praying, coincidences would stop happening