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LTAHAW (Living together as husband and wife)

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Posted by: epuddicombe

I need more insight. Why is LTAHAW against the will of God. I do not condone it, but some say it is a good idea to live together first to know each other before getting married. Any insight?


Posted by: kasi64

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Originally Posted by epuddicombe
I need more insight. Why is LTAHAW against the will of God. I do not condone it, but some say it is a good idea to live together first to know each other before getting married. Any insight?




Well, while the rate of people living together has gone up so has the divorce rate and there is that little thing about fornacation. however i did live with my hubby before marriage BC ( before CHRIST) SO i try not to judge others. but my daughter is living with boyfriend and it grieves me terrible and i can only imagine what it does to GOD. She is paying a price though for living out of his will, she is very sickly and unhappy. thats my take on it. love kassy


Posted by: Christy Demoran

The word of God is very CLEAR: 1 CORINTHIANS 6:9-11
DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT THE WICKED WILL NOT INHEERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD? DO NOT BE DECIEVED: NEITHER THE SEXUALLY IMMORAL, NORI DOLATERS, NOR ADULTERERS, NOR MALE PROSTITUTES NOR HOMOSEXUAL OFFENDERS. 10: NOR THIEVES, NOR THE GREEDY NOR DRUNKARDS, NOR SLANDERERS, NOR SWINDLERS ,WILL INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD. 11: and that is what some of you WERE.

Paul is describing characteristics of unbelievers. He doesn`t mean that idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, homesesxuals, thieves, greedy people, drunkards, slanders or swindlers are automatically and irrevocably excluded from heaven. Christians come out of all kinds of different backgrounds. including these. They may still struggle with evil desires BUT they should not
CONTINUE in these practices. In 6:11 Paul clearly states that even those who sin in these ways can have their lives changed by Christ. HOWEVER , those who say that they are Christians but persist in these practices with no sign of remorse will not inherit the kingdom of God. Such people need to reevavaluate their lives to see if they truly believe in Christ.

These are not my words, They came from the word of God. "LIFE APPLICATION STUDY BIBLE. THE NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION."

6:11 In a permissive society it is easy for Christians to overlook or tioerate some immoral behaviors (greed, drunkness, etc.) while remaining outraged at others (homesexuality, thivery). We must not participate in sin or condone it in any way, nor may we be selective about what we condem or excuse. Staying away from more "acceptable" forms of sin is diffcult, but it is no harder for us than it was for the Corinthians. God expects his folowers in any age to have high standards.


Posted by: Ericsmom

In additional to the above posts, when couples live together first, when they get married, they change. Their brains switch to their "marriage" scripts and expectations instead of dating behaviors. Even though they live together for months and years, they are impacted from these mental processes once they are married.

To me the commitment needs to be there first. A real commitment that says we're going to be together through thick and thin. Just like our commitment to God - through thick and thin.


Posted by: woofytoyou

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Originally Posted by Ericsmom
In additional to the above posts, when couples live together first, when they get married, they change. Their brains switch to their "marriage" scripts and expectations instead of dating behaviors. Even though they live together for months and years, they are impacted from these mental processes once they are married.

To me the commitment needs to be there first. A real commitment that says we're going to be together through thick and thin. Just like our commitment to God - through thick and thin.


Well, I gotta say I can't stand generalizations. Maybe some change
to 'married scripts and expectations' but for me , my love has
not changed and we allow each other the freedom to be who
each other are without fixing, or controlling or dominating each
other. We are both very happy with this kind of grace.
We did live together before, we were weak and very repentant
and this is not done or said lightly, it is horrible to be weak.
For myself, Living together was guilt hell. Being married is
tremendous freedom from that, but a regret that it wasn't
done right and that we were weak. That God kept his hand
on us but we suffer consequences of knowing we 'let Him down
and others around us'.
Being married, we fell and go through all the judgment that people
do , and say things etc. and our integrity is mowed over by that
and affects the future of our married life together.
But relationally, we are head over heels in love with each other just
without that guilt and knowing each day we are in a union that
is called married and it is a blessed union and we are forgiven
and covered by the blood of the lamb and cleansed.
Thank the Lord that we can be counted as Overcomers and not
stamped out as fallen bugs that some people still see us as.
Woofy