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Posted by: Frederik
The angels which serve God, could they still fall if they wanted?
I mean what if one angel after the other fell and then Satan would have the majority of angels on his side. Is it possible for an angel to fall or is this time gone?
Posted by: jedijeb
I guess it could be possible for an angle to still fall away. But think about it, after seeing what happened to those that did fall, being case out of Heaven and made to wander the earth out of the presence of God, would you want to join them?
Posted by: Frederik
No, but angels could be deceived as well and be blinded when they become proud. Actually angels could still become proud.
By the way I read an article by Todd Bentley where he describes an angel he saw.He was blonde,7 feet, and had a well defined 24 inch biceps where you could see the single muscle fibers.Why does an angel have a 24 inch biceps? I do not think that angels have to rely on physical strength, do they? And why are most angels blonde? In most cases people describe the angels they saw as blonde.
Posted by: jedijeb
I believe I saw an angel once and He looked like a very old gray haired man who had a worn bent looking body. I figure angels appear in the form which is necessary for the purpose for which God sent them to carry out.
Posted by: Frederik
But angels have a body like the one which we'll have I don't think they can morph and change their appearance.Or maybe they can but why should they?
Another question is how will we look in heaven? WIll we look like on the day we died?
Will somebody who died young look young in heaven?
Posted by: jedijeb
From my understanding angels dont have human looking bodies, but they can take a human form at times when they need to. Angels are spiritual beings and in their natural form don't have what we would call a physical body. There are also many different kinds of angels, just to name a couple are seriphim and cheribum and then there are archangels like Michael. These all have different discriptions in the Bible, one is described as having 6 wings I cant remember which one at the moment. If you can find it Billy Graham wrote a great book about angels, it has been a long time since I read it but it does give a good account of the types and their duties in Heaven.
Posted by: Frederik
But the homos in Sodom were after the angels, I mean this means that they have to have real bodies....
Posted by: rose kuo
first angels don't have six wings that was the creature before the throne in Revelation and angels can change their appearance to suit the situation. this is why we can accidentally host angels without knowing it. as to whether angels in Sodom had real bodies, sure they did. they can cloak themselves in many forms, be they macho and blonde or old and gray or giangantic like in Revelation. even Jesus looked different on the road to Emmaus. or what about the man who wrestled with Jacob, some say that was Christ before he became Jesus being in a physical form for the moment. God has the resources to do anything and to allow his angels to have a certain amount of power. even bad angels or demons can take on human form, perhaps Hitler was one example (of this I am not sure). But God can do anything to accomplish His purposes. I do think that God let all of the angels who had a "defect of pride" come to the surface when the angels rebelled and he weeded out those whose hearts were against him. there ones with him now are probualy unwilling to go against Him. they made a choice and commitment long ago.
Posted by: Frederik
Wow, when angels can look like humans then how do I know that I'm not an angel? 
Posted by: rose kuo
I know that you are joking. So we can laugh together. --Take care, Rose
Posted by: Frederik
No, really. Maybe I am an angel like the guy from this series.
He was an angel on earth and went from one mission to the other together with his friend.He was played by Michael Landon.
Posted by: rose kuo
Your profile says you're from Germany. So too much American T.V. really is bad for people. (-: Still I am sure you are a sincere brother in the Lord. Bye.
Posted by: Frederik
But this series was not bad.
Of course I'm not an angel I was just kidding.
Posted by: rose kuo
I know that you were kidding. But I did want to say I notice all of your postings. I told you before they were good and they are. Can I ask you a question? What church do you attend in Germany and how many serious German Christians are there? I think most people in Europe are either agnostic or belong to state type churches with no life is this right or am I a confused American? How many actual born again Christians, I don't care about the denomination, are there in your country? Also the questions you put forth on this site make me wonder if there are really godly churches and leaders there to teach and guide you? I ask because the things you mention are discussed normally amoung people at my church and by the pastor. Do you have someone there to mentor you and be your Christian "big brother"? You seem young but really wanting to know, along with having a funny sense of humor. I am very curious about believers in Europe. I have heard that most people lead amoral lives and think God is outdated. I'd like to hear I'm wrong. Maybe you could visit our church if you come to America. My husband and I would be glad to meet you. Also you have great English, how did you learn it? Are you an American living in Germany or did you just have great teachers? Is your family Christian?
Take care--Rose
Posted by: Frederik
Wow, these are a lot of questions.
I learned English in school. In Germany you have to learn English in school, there is no way to bypass it.
You are right. Most people in Germany are unbelievers. Most churches are run by the state and they are pretty dead. My church is one of these dead churches. My pastor is nice but he also doesn't have much knowledge of important things. Studying theology does not make you a good pastor. I think most of his knowledge is theoretical knowledge which he got from books.When you study theology in Germany you get your faith systematically eliminated.People try to make the bible fit to what science says.....
There are not many people in my church. I also don't know any of them. There are no young people there. Every year there are a few young people which recieve their confirmation and then you never see them in church again. They just go there a few month and join the program and as soon as they recieve the confirmation they won't be seen again. Actually I did it the same way.When I recieved my confirmation at the age of 14 I didn't really care about all this stuff.
I cannot say how many born again christians we have in Germany. We certainly have born again christians in Germany and there are also great communities but not in my area. 
I have heard a lot of stuff from German evangelists saying that God will send a revival to Germany. This would be cool. 
Posted by: rose kuo
Who knows you may be there for a reason and maybe He will use you for revival? I do hope that revival will come. Martin Luther, when he first started at least, and many other godly men came from your country. I do hope that your generation will be the next group. I do wonder why Europe turned from the Lord. I think the Catholic Church and dead Protestant Churches must have had something to do with it. I go to a Vineyard Church myself and my daughter loves her young group because they are serious for God. Most American Churches have only games for the young people and this is very sad. The parents believe, but the kids have very little reality. The next generation should be stronger. Anyway, I hope you can begin a little home group or something that will be the beginning of something great even in your area. All you need is a few people to join you for prayer.
"Lord help Fredrick to find other real believers in his area and help them to meet together and be the beginning of your revival there. Use this young man and his future companions." Take care--Rose
Posted by: Frederik
Yes I know but I don't know 1 single christian from my town who's in my age.
Posted by: rose kuo
Hi Fredrik,
I told my daughter about you and she wants to write you. Hope you don't mind. Take care.--Rose
Posted by: Frederik
No, I don't mind.