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Ok..pray for me, I post & he attacks!
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Posted by: Kristie
Hello,
Just like clockwork, I post a war notice on him, and try to lift up my brothers and sisters..and he comes at me through my husband. I am used to it, but I am also tired of it...and one way to nip his business in the bud is to gather my brothers and sisters about me and rebuke him from my husband, my home, my life and send him packing. I am going to stand strong in what God has assigned me to do. The enemy tried to stop it, tried to confuse me and keep me from helping others...and he managed to daze me for a bit and get me off track..but I am taking back, and I am not going to back down let alone quit. I will help my brothers and sisters in Christ, I will let the Lord use me for a vessel to reach others, I will be a witness to God and His will and works, and he cannot do anything to stop me. All I ask is that my brothers and sisters back me up and cover me in prayer for protection. I can pray for myself, but...."One of you shall chase a thousand and two put ten thousand to flight." There is an accumulated power in united supplication: two do not only double the force, but multiply it tenfold. How soon the gate of mercy opens when two are knocking! Please help me cast him far into the outer darkness and away from my husband and my home tonight and tomorrow, and for days to come. I am back, and I am ready for battle, and I am just seeking my fellow warriors to watch my back for me..and I will watch yours as well! Praise God, all glory be unto Him, our only hope and our protector!
"Father God, shelter me under Your wing, and drive the enemy from my doorstep once again. Father God...tonight..right now...reach into Kevins heart and squeeze it until the stone heart crumbles, leaving a heart of flesh, breaking down his pride and prideful ways and his works of iniquity. Send the devil and his demons packing to the outer darkness away from Kevin, Father God, and render him emptied from them..pouring Your Spirit into the empty places they inhabited, making him full so that none can get back in when they return to see if he is swept clean. Make clean and filled to the brim with You Lord God, with Your Holy Spirit, who will teach him the way, the light and the truth! I thank you Father God, and praise Your Holy Name! I love You above all else and others..You are my God, my strength and my power in this world, thank You for loving and keeping me. Amen."
Posted by: mknalp
I will pray for and with you Kristie.
Posted by: ANOINTED WARRIOR
Hi kristie this will keep happening with your husband in how the devil uses him as long as you let it happen, it is us that lets this happen if the devil knows he can get to us through someone he will keep doing it over and over.. This is where wisdom comes in we are to not look one single bit at the enemy even in someone, satan has been decieveing many through this, The word of God says we are to follow Jesus not follow attacks through someone to see if they are being used by the devil as I often do, Jesus taught me much on this today, for I asked him why I keeping getting so heavily attacked through people, Jesus said because I let this happen, I focus on what the devil does in a person instead of what God is going to do in the person... and since I focus on how that person is letting the devil use them it opens up the door for the devil to have a hay day with me, for I allowed it and expected it to happen..So to shut the door on the devil we must stop seeing how the devil uses other people to harm or say things to us and begin to get are focus continually on Jesus, and when the person is being used by the devil and you know it, pay no attention to it simply smile and say to your self in the spirit, father forgive them for they no not what they do... and then move on about your day smiling and worshipping God..
Lets stay following Jesus no matter how strong the attacks get this way we will be able to listen and learn in what God is wanting to teach us through what is going on in the attack..God is always teaching us if we will listen in every attack,trial, silence, chaos etc.. And the end result in what his is always teaching us this to stay abiding in him and to not move until he says... ((HUGS))
Posted by: Kristie
Actually, with this last hit I took, I learned that there is a bit more to it then that. You are correct in that it is much like prophesy, if you name it..you can plan on claiming it. What you seek you will get..what you sow into it, you will reap out of it, and where you put your faith..it will manifest itself so to speak. Words of the mouth, the two edged sword, there is life and death in the tongue, as a man thinkith..so shall he be. All of it is truth. Then there are the fools for the devil, the workers of iniquity, lovers of the flesh and so on. Remember that Moses wandered around in the desert with the Israelites for all those 40 years, and it was not because he allowed them to worship idols and disobey God, which in turn brought Gods wrath and kept them in the wilderness for the 40 years. Moses was a man of God, a chosen man to lead them out to the promise land. He did his best for them, and he was obedient to God..yet he suffered for their sins, he went through all they did even though he did not cause it to be so..contrare..he tried to guide them, and if they would have listened, they would have got to the promise land in no time. This is where the grace of God comes upon you so that he can use you as a vessel of Gods love for the lost sheep. Moses prayed them out, pleaded their cause, won them mercy time and time again. Sometimes we are placed in a "Moses" position because God knows we are the only one that will submit to being a vessel He can use that will not crack and break under the trial of the task..to bring that person out of the wilderness, to stick by them despite their iniquity over and over again. The only assignment being to stick by them..only God can break their pride and reach in and turn their hearts of stone to flesh, renew them with His spirit, cleanse them and make them clean and bring them back to their land and restore them to their people. They are modern day Israelites. Moses did not get them to stop their idol worshipping, their inquities against God, all he did was stay at his station and obediant to God all the way to the promise land, no matter how long it took...40 years for him..and he suffered for their inquities as much as they did through it all. I have learned that there is more then rebuking the devil and not giving him credit to act upon, because he does not need my acknowledgement to act..he only needs Kevins..just like he only needed the Israelites. If one submits to him to be used, he will use, and it does not matter how much whomever it affects believes he cannot do it, I found that out. I believed that I was covered, that he could not get in again, he could not touch my husband..I stood on that faithfully, trusted in it, and he only used that to try to convince me God was a liar..that my faith and trust only got me a big shock when it did not work. So you have to be careful with that. Sometimes you can ignore so much that you cannot even recognize him sneaking around under your feet. It is wise to stay spiritually alert to his movements and not to fall prey to that if you ignore him completely..not acknowledge him, then he cannot move. He can move as long as there is a willing vessel to move in and he will, and for people like Kevin who are literally spiritually blinded, they fall easily for his angel of light act. He is smart and swift, and some are just fools for him. So when you are like Moses, and afflicted by the sins of iniquity of others..your best weapon is not to ignore the enemy messing with them, but instead become so spiritually strong in Christ that his using them does not affect you. His only goal is to turn you away from God, it is the only way he can gain anything. If there is nothing he can do that will turn your face from God, then he is disarmed, he can shoot at you, but it is totally inaffective, they bounce off you and fall to the ground. Once the enemy figures out that he can no longer get to you through this person, by using this person, that no matter what he entices them to do, you still stand strong and unmovable in God, he will leave that person alone and try another tactic from another angle. When there are no angles left to shoot from, he is defeated. Yes, he can still try to take Kevin out, carry off his soul, but that is Gods battle not mine. I cannot fight that war for Kevin. God has to bring Kevin unto his own so that Kevin will fight back and fend off the enemy from himself. It is like being demon possessed, you can cast a demon out of someone, but if they did not mind the demon being there, then the demon is going to come right back in and bring seven more with him. Therefore, casting the demon out was pointless, it left the man worse off then before you did it. If a person wants to be a fool for the devil, then there is nothing you can do to stop the devil from using them. But you can disarm how it affects you, and if you disarm the weapon, you render it pointless for him to use against you. That is what God has taught me this last round, and it has given me the victory..it has ended this for me, the devil cannot use Kevin anymore to harm me or move me, he tried with this last shot and here I am, still standing, even more determined, unmoved, worshipping God, at peace, joyful, never once flinched about staying obedient to God in it, in fact, it set me more in place..because it was with this shot that I no longer prayed for my desires, but for Gods will, and truly for the first time desired Gods will whatever that may be. This last shot killed my flesh, any that was left, and made me a stronger warrior coming out of it, strong enough to stand against anything he throws at me..and I only know this because I stood through this last one and am fine..and I will always be fine..because I have God, and I really need nothing or no one else. It is called selling out to God. I am sold out this time...I survived and not only survived, stood strong in God. I may have whined a bit about take this cup..but even Christ did that, and like Him, I added that His will be done. I questioned my ability to help others anymore..that was the biggest fall for me in it..and I do believe that is why he took the hit at me..to stop me from ministering to others. I floundered for a bit on that one, how could I help others when all I teach did not work for me...but standing strong in God..it could not take me out, and God would and did soon get my mind straight on it and back to the truth of it getting me back on solid ground and ready to go again. I now know that he cannot touch me with the use of my husband anymore..so that is over for me, and now that it is over..God can work on Kevin. Kevin is in Gods hands, it is his time on the potters wheel, and it is between him and God now. I will stand my assigned post like Moses did and be patient through any trials, and I will rebuke when I see him coming after my household and family, I will stand sentry and guard over my loved ones, and let God work in them in however He must to get them where they need to be, just like the Israelites, and when it is time, I will cross the River Jordan into the promise land He has promised me. This is war, and in the heat of battle ignoring the enemy will not make them go away, it will just get you caught off guard and wounded. I now know to stand spiritually alert keeping the enemy in my sights..God has now got me so armored up that his arrows cannot pierce me anymore, they bounce off, and I am just to stay alert and keep the enemy at bay until we cross the Jordan where he will be permanently cut off! :-) Hugs to you also...you are my awesome brother in Christ! I truly would be lost without you around..hope you know that. :-)
Posted by: ANOINTED WARRIOR
Amen kristie I will say a prayer for you: Holy Spirit begin to create a whirlwind of your shekinah glory around kristie even now, begin to overwhelm her in your presence, let your glory be all over her right now, begin to lay out bounderies in her life with a pillar of fire anointing in all areas, wherever she goes the devil and all the hordes of hell will bow to the name of Jesus Christ in her life.. The anointing will come shooting forth from her in all that she does when walking in you Jesus, continue to place your mantle of glory and fire on kristie, for she will be one of many that are about to be used by you for your glory on this earth when you begin to move mightly as the world has ever seen.. Give krisite CPR to her spirit with your breath of restoration now...let every fiber of her being be enveloped with your spirit and love.. Release Jesus against the hordes now that keep coming against her your lion of Judah to consume and devour them, let your lion roar now in the spirit and open kristies spiritual ears to hear the lion of Judah consuming and devouring the enemy in her life and her husbands.. A mighty whirlwind of Glory is now being created in your life to protect and guide you through the dead sea in your life, which will in result take you to new heights in Jesus in the spirit..
Posted by: Copper
Wow!!!
that is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo the way i feel!
i have learned that satan tries to hurt me through tom,
and -as long as i keep God the center, satan can't hurt me through him anymore,
i'm so excited,
it is kind of weird though, a fine line between realizing that God is first and if tom allows God to change him and work on him, then he will be coming home
first to God and then to me,
so it is so cool, loving someone, but loving them enough to be ablet o rest in God and let go,
truly let go,
it is kind of scary, kind of like letting go of the emotions as well,
like i fear sometimes, like this morning when i woke up and realized i am truly better off right now without my husband at home,
our home is peaceful, restful, Godly,
and the 'fear ' set in, about fearing him coming home,
i know this is of the devil, fear is not of God,a
and i realized, that God will make sure he is good and changed, orme strong and capable of standing strong in the Lord before he comes home,
and i realized that i can still love someone, but at the same time let go.
weird.
makes you fear you no longer love them,
but it is a different kind of love,
anyway, kristie, i so agree, we are learning , how to become more like Christ.
oh how Christ must hurt, to be ignored by us, that is the main thing i'm learning right now, how it feels to be ignored by the one you love so terribly much.
kimberly
Posted by: StarChilde
It was because of the murmering and complaining, and the disbelief that God could not help them, that that generation of Israelites were not allowed to see the Promised Land. It was because of Moses' crying out to God, and not sanctifying God to the ppl of Israel that he was not allowed into the promised land.
Deu 1:31 And in the wilderness, where thou hast seen how that the LORD thy God bare thee, as a man doth bear his son, in all the way that ye went, until ye came into this place.
Deu 1:32 Yet in this thing ye did not believe the LORD your God,
Deu 1:33 Who went in the way before you, to search you out a place to pitch your tents in, in fire by night, to shew you by what way ye should go, and in a cloud by day.
Deu 1:34 And the LORD heard the voice of your words, and was wroth, and sware, saying,
Deu 1:35 Surely there shall not one of these men of this evil generation see that good land, which I sware to give unto your fathers,
Deu 1:36 Save Caleb the son of Jephunneh; he shall see it, and to him will I give the land that he hath trodden upon, and to his children, because he hath wholly followed the LORD.
Deu 1:37 Also the LORD was angry with me for your sakes, saying, Thou also shalt not go in thither.
Num 32:9 For when they went up unto the valley of Eshcol, and saw the land, they discouraged the heart of the children of Israel, that they should not go into the land which the LORD had given them.
Num 32:10 And the LORD'S anger was kindled the same time, and he sware, saying,
Num 32:11 Surely none of the men that came up out of Egypt, from twenty years old and upward, shall see the land which I sware unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob; because they have not wholly followed me:
Num 32:12 Save Caleb the son of Jephunneh the Kenezite, and Joshua the son of Nun: for they have wholly followed the LORD.
Num 32:13 And the LORD'S anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until all the generation, that had done evil in the sight of the LORD, was consumed.
Num 32:14 And, behold, ye are risen up in your fathers' stead, an increase of sinful men, to augment yet the fierce anger of the LORD toward Israel.
Num 32:15 For if ye turn away from after him, he will yet again leave them in the wilderness; and ye shall destroy all this people.
Exo 17:4 And Moses cried unto the LORD, saying, What shall I do unto this people? they be almost ready to stone me.
Exo 17:5 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go on before the people, and take with thee of the elders of Israel; and thy rod, wherewith thou smotest the river, take in thine hand, and go.
Exo 17:6 Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel.
Num 20:10 And Moses and Aaron gathered the congregation together before the rock, and he said unto them, Hear now, ye rebels; must we fetch you water out of this rock?
Num 20:11 And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock twice: and the water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their beasts also.
Num 20:12 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them.
Num 20:13 This is the water of Meribah; because the children of Israel strove with the LORD, and he was sanctified in them.
Num 20:10 And Moses and Aaron gathered the congregation together before the rock, and he said unto them, Hear now, ye rebels; must we fetch you water out of this rock?
Num 20:11 And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock twice: and the water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their beasts also.
Num 20:12 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them.
Num 20:13 This is the water of Meribah; because the children of Israel strove with the LORD, and he was sanctified in them.
Would it not stand to reason that it would be the same for us? So many times we say that we want help from something from God, then we selfishly hang onto it? Why? For what motives? I think these are questions we should ask ourselves in these areas. There is a popular quotation, about bringing our burdens to God, as a child brings a broken toy to a parent to fix. We ask...why did You not fix it God...He gently replies...how could I fix it? You never did let go. Yes, it is HARD to let go of things that we desperately want made right in our lives, in some one else's lives... but how can God's will be manifested in it's completeness, when we keep praying what it is what we want to happen, and keep holding onto something we should be able to relinquish to Him. There is not one person on this earth who has not struggled with this, at one time or another. Like Moses and the Israelites...when we are in the desert, when we are not with the Promised land that we have so wanted, and so prayed for...how easy it is to take our eyes off of God, and say where is it God? Where is what You have promised me? I must not be getting it...where is it? Our murmering and complaining against God actually thwarts and slows down our getting to the Promised Land..i.e., that which we desire to see in our lives. It says
Mat 6:33 But seekyefirst the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
and
Psa 37:4 Delight thyself also in the LORD; and he shall give thee the desiresof thine heart.
Does He say it will be easy? No...but He does say that we can rest in Him, and that
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Praise God that we can come to Him, & release our burdens into His hands..help us all dear God, to be able to let go, and let You work in all those situations in our lives that we need to let You work in our lives~
Posted by: Kristie
Thank you Chris for your prayer..there has always been a power in your prayers..the spirit moves when I pray with you, that is felt.
Kimberly,
Exactly, satan knows our weakest points, and when we have the gift of Gods love for someone, then satan knows the sharpest arrows are to our hearts..which is a most vunerable spot for wounding or even killing us in our spirit..and not because like the flesh heart is a killing spot to aim for, being what pumps life through our veins..but because that is where our spirit flows in and out from. So his main strategy is to use that person Gods love flows through us to, to harm us and pierce our hearts...if he can pierce our hearts enough times to make us pull back and no longer let our spirit flow in and out of our hearts, he can steal our salvation. A heavily wounded heart tends to want to turn cold and bitter, shutting out God and cutting off others, stopping the flow of love and compassion, the heart dies and with it so can the spirit. The enemy accomplishes this by spiritually blinding the vessel he is using, Tom and Kevin in this case, and enticing them. They cannot hear Gods voice, cannot see Gods hand reaching out to them, their flesh is in control and satan is making sure it is fed well. What is wounding you, they are getting so much enjoyment from being in the flesh, and satan deludes them time and again that all is well with them and what they do. God appointed us to pray them out, to stand in the gap for them, to be a venue to them thru which He can work to bring them out...just like Moses was for the Israelites. When they cannot plead their cases because they are blind and ignorant, we are there pleading it for them. God uses our words to reach them, our actions to affect them, our love to sustain them most importantly. The enemy is not as much interested in them during this as he is with us, because we are the anchor for them. If he can destroy the anchor, he can take both out, steal away with both spouses..the one in captivity and the one standing in the gap. When one is in captivity, he is a captive to do the bidding of the one restraining him. He is a slave to the captor. Our husbands are slaves to the captor, blinded and bound to do his bidding. Until God breaks the binds that hold them, and sets the captives free completely and for good, so that their eyes may be opened and they can fend off the enemy for themselves, they can and will be used by the enemy..and his only stategy is again to come at us because he is going to have to take us out to be able to keep them. Therefore he will not relent, and rebuking will only stay him for a moment, and ignoring and discrediting him will only let him work more elaborately under your very nose. The only defense is to develop a thick enough armor that he cannot wound you anymore, it is the only way you can claim the victory. When he is rendered totally impotent against you and every effort on his part yields him nothing, then he has no choice but to admit defeat and move on to bother another somewhere. He is not going to waste much effort on a opponent that he has no possbile way to conquer, his time has grown too short and he has too many he conquests. In the end times, it is numbers that count with him, not quality. He will still try to keep Kevin, and Tom, but once I have become in inpenetratable to him, he really has no way to stop me from standing..and as long as I am standing, God can and will pull Kevin out of his clutches. Same for you. I have taken some serious blows from him to get here, blows that if you would have asked me could I take them back when..I would have said "no way". Six adulterys, alienation of affections, loneliness...and in that lonliness and alienation watching my husband not suffer but have the time of his life because he was getting it from someone else..I was truly alone in my lonliness, it did not go both ways. Financial burden caused by supporting a man and his son as he gave his all to someone else, the humiliation of it all. Me and my son going hungry for days as Kevin and his son laughed and made a point of informing us they were off to the restaurant for the third time that day to feed themselves, and this went on for a year. I supported them, and they ate heartily while I went totally without eating and scounged what I could for my son day by day. I had not money, it all went to pay the enormous water bills and electric bills that his son ran up. His son bathed 2-3 times a day and his manner of bathing consisted of sitting in the tub and turning on the faucets full blast and using a cup to pour the water over him. Each ime he got in there, the water ran for no less the 45 minutes. Try turning on your bathtub faucets wide open and let run for 45 minutes three times a day, and see what it does to your water bill. And there was the laughter and scorn of all those evil involved, comments of how Kevin didnt love me, he just used me for a free ride, and I gave it to him while other cheap immoral woman got the best of him. And the wound I thought I would not bear..the possible conception of a child with one of them, still not known today if it is or is not his..left that up to God to reveal in His time if so, making that choice at the time due to fear, but realize now it probably was more due to degree of armor to be obtained to withstand the another arrow. The years of coldness, of intentional hurtful words, threat of physical abuse at times, and then the loss of the last precious moments of life with my father, and the loss of my son, because of this man who has done nothing but be a weapon in the hands of the enemy used against me, used to pierce my heart and soul for the past four years. People do not understand why I am here, why I was here three years ago, let alone now. I have literally been to hell on earth and back many times over with Kevin. The only good moments in the past four years were when he was in the wilderness and desparate to be saved, and they have always been short lived, the romance gone within two weeks time, and the coldness seeping back in. For the last couple of times, I have seen changes in him though. I guess God had to give me something to keep me going. This last time, the coldness stayed at bay, and the words of love continued to flow from him, the kindness continued, the companionship continued. The only thing wrong between us was the alienation of the physical relationship between us, otherwise it was better then it has been in a very long long time. I never imagined he was once again being physically attended to while I sat in alienation once again..alone in it. It is very easy to let anger set in over that and let the victory be snatched away. But I have conquered that, conquered that fleshly head that really wanted to rise up and devour him once and for all. I kept thinking, this is definitely where some woman pick up a gun and make sure they will never be hurt again. The human heart can only take so much. But...that was my key to the kingdom, the human flesh heart had long been done away with, and the heart of Christ is all that remained, with His love flowing through it to this man, not mine. You know with no uncertainly at this point that it is not you, that human love could not flow for this person who is not even your flesh and blood, it would be hard to love your own flesh and blood if they had tormented and seriously wounded you this much, let alone a man who you have not felt a love in return from for years. To be able to sit calmly and say the words "I forgive you and I love you still, it will be okay", that is of God. To actually feel that in your heart for this person, that is God. And I have dealt with the flesh in this at first..the desire to escape it, as you all know. God take this cup from me please, if it be Your will. God release me from this task. I said it all, but I followed up with always..your will be done. That follow up is not my flesh, it is not me, it is the mind of Christ and the love of Christ flowing through a vessel to reach this man still. It did not take but a few times of that with a return from God of stay and stand strong as reply, that I was able to put my flesh aside and ignore it. It was then that I realized that I had won, I had really won this time! I realized that victories sometimes come in a different form then what you have envisioned them and expect them. Its like standing and pinching yourself wide eyed marveling that you are still here, and you are still whole, and you can still sing and dance for the Lord and feel explicit joy in doing so, that you feel blessed beyond the curse befallen you, and it just floods in that you cannot be pierced anymore. In the midst of praying for God not to allow him to hurt you anymore, you realize that the prayer has already been answered, he can't. He may try, but he cant, because he just did and you are still standing and even though you felt the sting, this time it did not leave a hole, and next time it will not leave a hole either, he cannot wound you anymore, the arrows bounce off! If he cannot pierce the skin, he cannot destroy you, it is like a spiritual bulletproof vest! :-) This brings the opponent down from being a true advesary who can take you out to nothing but an annoyance. It transforms him from a viper to a pesky fly. I still have the battle to fight for Kevin, but when you can march out onto the battle field knowing that you have a bulletproof shield surrounding you and you are carrying the most powerful weapon in existence to fire at him, what is there to fear anymore and where is there room for any doubt of winning the battle, the enemy does not have a chance against you. That is victory, that is basically a clean up..it is no longer hand to hand combat but just a strong march driving the enemy all the way out to the edges of darkness where he will stay. When the use of Kevin can no longer wound me, then the battle switches from me to Kevin. Kevin must now take up the cross for himself and shake the enemy off, because his eyes are about to come wide open. God has been talking to him telling him to open them, and if he does not just open them of his own accord and reject the enemy from him, God has no choice but to take him on down to the bottom of the pit he has been captive in until there is no place to go but either down to death or up to life..but to go up to life he will have to reach out and cry out to God to pull him out, and if he manages to do so..this time he will never forget where hes been pulled out of, it will transform him this time. Some of the Israelites did not have to suffer in the wilderness much to get the message, and others just could not get out of their flesh and had to face themselves or be a witness to the actual physical death of the flesh to get it...because what good is the flesh once it is killing you..what do you have left at that point? Some people, in order to let go of something, have to have it killing them first. They are forever hearing but never understanding, until it has them at deaths door. God has His own perfect timing, and that is why some reap what they sow right away, and others seem to go on forever sowing but never reaping. Some it does not take much reaping to make them open their eyes, others need a deadly accumulation of reaping to hit them hard all at once I guess. Some people upon getting burned once in a minor way develop a respect for fire and not playing with it, others get burned and burned and burned and just want to keep building bigger fires. I think God described them in many different ways in His word, I think I recall things such as a stubborn foolish people, workers of iniquity, followers of their father satan, pharasees. You can tell the difference between someone in capitivity and blinded and someone who is a worker of iniquity. There is actually a greater coldness to someone captive and that is because satan is using them for a vessel. A worker of iniquity is more subtle, they are smooth operators and workers of their sin. I think often captives turn into workers of iniquity. They so enjoyed the flesh while in captivity that they leave themselves wide open to be used, like it is an excuse to sin. They are rescued out of captivity and instead of giving their all to God, they only want to give just enough to get them feeling safe again, we could call this the confessional bathing booth syndrome..that just came to me, rhema, confess and be redeemed so you feel cleansed to start over again getting dirty, it is okay, because you can just hit the confessional for spiritual bath again and go through life like this..having your cake and eating it to, or so they think. They cannot let go of their flesh and old ways, so they will just take advantage of Gods neverending mercy. They never understand that they are running up a huge water bill and the water will eventually be shut off, the confessional bath shut down. They find themselves laying there dying in their own filth. "Oh wow, you have to pay for this?!!" Duh! All we can do is stand and pray they will open their eyes before they have to get to this point, and if not, then still stand and be there for them when they are brought out...the hard way.
I love you sis, hang in there and just keep your eyes upon God! He will bring you through this and so much better off for the wear! :-)
Posted by: Kristie
StarChilde, God healed me of the hanging on and not letting go to Him long ago. He healed me of the complaining as well. There is nothing that can make me feel angry over how things turn out, when they turn out completely opposite of what I desired or expected, I know that even if it feels horrible, it is for the best and I will in Gods time see the best from it, Gods purpose in it. I no longer grumble, I just seek revelation, wisdom in it and from it, and God always gives it to me. I never have to seek very long. I realized this transformation in myself in full awareness, meaning it had been with me for awhile but was finally put to the real test, when my father died tragically last January after I stood and declared faithfully he would be healed. Created and hung up a huge cross that went from ceiling to floor and corner to corner on his ICU room wall, quoting all Gods healing scriptures, and from the cross hung hundreds upon hundreds of printed prayers for healing that came in from all over the world, and the church congregations. I was going to prove Gods miracle power to the skeptics in that ICU. I had not seen my dad for almost three months prior to his collapse due to he was so angry at my husband and at the time my husband had hit rock bottom and was gluing himself to me trying his best to dedicate his life to the Lord. I could not express to him that my dad rejects him at such a crucial time that he was giving his all..it would have been like a hit below the belt and I worried it may make him give up. I never dreamed I would not have time with my dad..he was fine. This came out of nowhere and was exactly two days prior to a planned suprise trip to my parents to visit and make up for much missed time with them. Kevin had stabilized and was holding his own fairly well, and I could take a break from him. It was as if satan deliberately plotted it out this way, to rob me of my dad in a way that I could not forgive myself and would blame Kevin, be angry with God. My dad never could speak or communicate from the moment he collapsed, because he was put on a ventilator. He had a major heart attack that they said damaged his heart so badly that there was no way he could survive another one that was sure to come just from the damage. And it did, two more came in fact, and he pulled through. And with prayer, God healed his heart, suddenly there was no sign of damage, his heart was so good that the treating heart specialist said there was no need for him to be there, and he left dads case. The only thing keeping dad from walking out of there was the vent, and being weaned from it. Which they started and he was doing well. Dad was put into a induced coma 48 hrs. into this ordeal because he would not quit fighting the vent. He stayed that way except for a few moments that he opened his eyes about two hours before he died, to motoin to me with his eyes that he saw Jesus above him waiting for him. His eyes looked like a wounded childs, so much pain. I truly believed without a moments waiver that God would heal my dad, if only because I was a faithful and dedicated servant to the Lord, had been for some time, and He would answer my prayer, the prayers of hundreds combined..standing on his word of two or more asking will recieve whatever asked for. He would let him live and come out of there if only for a week, so that I could have time with him that I missed, so that I could say I was sorry for missing it and hear him say he forgave me. I knew God would not let me suffer with losing my dad without a chance to hear dad forgive me for missing the time I had left with him. When the staff rolled their eyes and said no way, I boldly told them they would watch my dad walk out of here and then they would know God was real. I truly believed that God would not let my dad die simply because there were so many lost ssouls watching and mocking Him, my faith in Him, including some family members. There was just no way dad was not walking out of there, based on all Gods promises, and all that had taken place. Well, the hospital staff carried a staph bug into my dad that infected his blood stream and all of his organs, they then carried into him a new super bug that nothing could touch, and it took over his lungs. Literally carried it in to him in that they did not practice isolation procedures themselves between patients, my dad was not the only one to die from it in January. My dad had a living will, and the doctors gave up on him and pulled the plug after 21 days of laying there in a drug induced coma. Furthermore, I watched the night nurse shoot my dad up with a huge bolus of morphine, when he held his own for hours after the vent was removed, of which within seconds plummeted his heart stopping it and brought his last breath. This nurse was not dealing with our trauma very well, and our requests of care for dad because he was still alive and deserved the care. Dad was having diarrhea epidsodes, had been, about once an hour, and for whatever reason it would take two of them about 45 minutes to clean him up. The nurse made it clear he did not want to do it come the third time, telling us that he did not like doing such because he feared the moving of day would cause him to go more rapidly and we would not be in there if that happened, since it takes so long to clean him up. So, I feel that nurse just ended it to get rid of it all, but I did not accuse. I was devastated when he died, how could this happen, how could God let this happen, how could God allow all those skeptics to now say, "Yea right, where is your God that was going to heal?!" I looked like a fool, and my brother even said something that night to mock my beliefs. I feared I lost my mother over it. I am the one who led her to Christ, and I am the one who held her up for 21 days convincing her it would be okay..God would heal him..now here she was a immature Christian facing the opposite ending, when she was convinced and solid in the belief because I was. It was bad, trust me, there was more then just the loss of my dad that I was contending with, my faith was being severely challenged..my entire belief system, publicly! I never felt so stunned in my life. It knocked me so hard that I did sink into depression and hid away for several weeks. But never once did I blame or come to anger. All I could do was pray, seeking Gods wisdom on what happened to my dad. I sought, and I sought, and I never stopped, refused to stop until God gave me the wisdom. I had to know before I could stand up and challenge the mockers on the behalf of my Lord, because I knew in my heart that there was a good reason, that is was for the best..it did not matter that there was no rational way to see a good in this, there was, I knew there was because God allowed it to happen. He showed me, and with the wisdom came a peace and a release. God had done all He could do, all that He was allowed to do in the situation. You are correct that we ourselves keep God from fixing things and this is a prime example of that, and it does not have to even be because we do not let go, it can simply be because of the desires of our hearts. God allows us to have to have many things that He knows is not right for us and that will never prosper and will never work, and He does so because He promises to give us the desires of our hearts if we remain in Him and He in us. Many times our desires are not Gods perfect plan for our lives, but He lets us have them by granting our request for them, and we have to go through a trial with that thing to realize it was not good for us, not Gods plan for us, but our own. So it can run the gamut of not letting go of something that needs fixing to wanting to acquire something that is not right for us. These things mess us up, and it is not His failings but our own, He just loves us so much that He gives in to us and lets us go, staying near to catch us when we fall. Sometimes Gods promises can conflict with one another in a situation where there is opportunity for them to collide. God promises healing and He promises mercy, and He promises the desires of our hearts. In my dads circumstances, we were seeking healing but my dad was seeking mercy and the desire of his heart was to go home with the Lord. Our desires and requests were conflicting, but both were promises of God. God cannot break a promise, and since two opposite promises were lifted up in the situation, it stilled Gods hand from moving either way. He could not honor one without breaking the other, and no matter what, He cannot break a promise. God was held in a state of not being able to honor either requests, one of us had to align with the other before He could move. The morning the doctors announced to us that it was hopeless and they were pulling the vent off and letting him go that very day, it came out that the night before all of us that were praying in the family, alone in our perspective homes, all prayed the same thing, a simple request that God show mercy to my dad. When we did that, we released God to move and honor my dads request and desire in the matter. I found out later that my dad had given up long before he had collapsed. A few months before he had developed a problem with a nerve in his hip. They tried everything to help him, including surgery, but nothing worked. Dad was in a great deal of pain with the problem. My dad was a aggressively active man, a builder all his life, he was a workaholic, always on a roof or forming concrete, always on a project. He was a woodworker with the most elaborate shop and equipment where he tinkered and built things for his family, invented things. He was a diehard fisherman, having worked and created his own paradise of ********pie beds, and trekking the hill to the lake daily to fish. The freezer was always overloaded with fish, we had to give it away as no one could eat that much fish. :-) He was a gardening fool, being raised with his daddy being a horticulturist who bred roses. My dad created wonderful gardens to tend, both flower and vegtable. He spent 99.9% of his time outdoors, both summer and winter and his skin was always darkly tanned and leathery from it. Suddenly my dad could not get around, he could no longer get down the hill to fish, could not climb on the roof, shovel the snow, rake the leaves, squat to tend the gardens, make it down to his workshop and stand to build goodies for us. For my dad, life was over I guess. What I did not know was that about a month prior to the collapse, he began turning away the physical therapists that came three times a week, and he had slunk into a depression, sitting in his chair and not speaking much to anyone. I have to wonder sometimes if the extended absence of his only baby girl on top of all else he was dealing with was not a tiny part of it. But anyway, he had sworn my mother to not calling for help if something should happen to him, to never take him to a hospital and to let him go. My mother had a hard getting over this, when he ended up there 21 days just to die. She felt like she had broken a oath to him. It took all I had to convince her that she did what anyone would have done, including my dad if the shoe had been on the other foot. She had no way of knowing that he would not be healed. None of us did. All things pointed to the opposite. But, it was through all of this, actually on the other side of it coming out, that God gave me the revelation that I had came through a serious test of faith and had reigned victorious. That the most devastating thing in my life to date, nothing compared to this, nothing Kevin has done, no other loss of anyone, nothing came even close to this trauma with my dad and the fact that here I am without him and I never got to hear him forgive me, and that is hard to live with...and I never waivered in my stand with God, I never complained, never angered, not blamed, never shut Him out, gave up, that I just sought Him harder...sought His wisdom because never once did it cross my mind that this was senseless and unjust, but only that there was a good reason and God would help me understand and get me through this.
For someone who for more years then not whined and complained about everything to God, why me God, blamed God and got angry everytime something went wrong, would stomp and act like a brat, would turn my back on Him and did so one time to the point of becoming a Wiccan! Yep! I declared that despite my faithfulness and obedience to Him, I was always getting hurt, He was always letting me get tromped on, so I would just find another way. I think that I can honestly declare that if you took a poll of the absolutely worst Israelite to ever exist..it would be me. I would be at the top of the list for sure! I could not tithe even, was too afraid to let loose of what I had, could not trust that He would increase it, no way..was not taking a chance. I struggled with that so hard for so many years! That and giving up. Everytime things did not happen the way I expected and quickly, I slunk into a depression and bucket of tears swearing God hated me and it was hopeless, I was not even gonna pray anymore, not going to go to church, I was just going to slit my throat. I was pathetic let me tell you! My husband, Kevin..I made him look like a pillar of sainthood! Even he would get exasperated with me and quote, "Oh ye of so little faith, why do I bother with you!" He would get so mad at me, trying to drag me up out of bed to church, with me crying and complaining all the way. Sometimes I try to imagine what he must be feeling now...me of all people now dragging him, and speaking in the gift of the spirit, forgiving relentlessly, totally turned away from the things of the world that I loved so much, rock music, movies, bars and drinking. Now here is this woman who watches nothing but TBN, listens to nothing but Christian music, and no one better touch the radio dial in my vehicle! Who jumps up and runs to the front of the church when praise and worship starts and sings and dances to the Lord, becoming totally consumed in His spirit. Who can quote scripture off the top of my head at him and who refuses to even acknowledge those old things or people of my flesh days, let alone participate. A woman who refused to go to the bars to watch him play his music, and who after enough pushing would go and sit in the parking lot on top the hood of my car, Bible in hand, and praying over the entire place and crowd. Who keeps a Bible in just about every room, open to the word, and picks it up and stops to read almost every time I pass one of them. One always open on our bed at all times. Who goes around anointing and praying over everything..even my computer. lol! Who goes to church and cannot wait to drop a $50 check in the offering plate, and then goes home and hoops and hollars because from the time church started and it ended, $500 flooded into her bank account, so she rushes back to evening service waving a $100 check, still jumping and praising in the spirit and excitely urges for them to get the offering plate going around..gotta give give give, so lets go with it! And I think the most startling thing of all, one that my church family are always remarking on, that no matter what is going on in my life, no matter how bad it is, I cannot quit smiling and being bubbly. I cannot keep from running to the front and dancing and singing praise to God. I guess that is disturbing to some. I have had one sister, as I stepped into my nested in spot in the pew, say to me loudly, "You make me sick, you are so happy all the time, never not smiling, get out of here!" She started laughing then. But she was in a bad moment, her brother had tried to kill himself the night before, and she was devastated. They have seen me devastated and smiling and worshipping. Others have commented also, things like coming up to me right in my face and smiling or hugging me, and saying "You are always smiling, always happy, that is so awesome!". It affects people I guess. I am sure it is maddening for my husband, I think he thought I had gone quite crazy for about the first year of it. It may be why he ran so hard from God, maybe he was afraid he would go crazy as well..that it was catching. :-) He is used to it now, and just goes with the flow, no longer tries to persuade me to walk off the path of God just for a bit, it will be alright. He knows he cannot get me off track. No longer tries to get away with outwardly sinning, the bars are over with, he knows that in order to step back into a bar, he has to give me up..it is me or the bar and his music. He tries to sneak stuff, was sneaking the pot smoking, but he knows he cannot get away with anything with me, that God will disclose him at some point. In times of trial, I am his comfort also, he looks to me for help and support. He will tell you I am the only balance in his life, that without me, his life goes completely off the charts and out of control, and this is when he hits the bottom and breaks down. He just cannot seem to find his own balance in God when he comes back up, but he will, in Gods timing, he will. But..when you come from what I was...and God makes a transformation in you that roots so deep it cannot be moved, it tends to just go without saying until something major happens and on the other side of it you are standing there saying, "Was that me God?!" You are totally overwhelmed with amazement at what He has done within you, and you know you just stepped out of the fire refined and have kicked the devils butt, and never again will you have to walk that particular fire again..it is a solid victory and over with. I have walked from one victory to another, and in the process have come to understand better the ways of my Lord and how we really cannot fathom how much greater the outcome is going to be then what we expect. I can say that I started out fighting for my marriage, only seeking a victory in that one thing. I have yet to reach the total victory in that, but I have overcome the enemy in so many things, having even greater victorys that I never even knew could be had. The woman I started out as is dead and gone, does not even exist anymore. I do not miss her and never want her back. Temptations do not come against me anymore, I am not bothered by that anymore, have not been for a long time. A smoker all my life, 8 months ago I woke and stepped outside and threw my cigarettes away and have never once thought of one since, outside of stating what I did. God told me during the night that He healed me of cigarette addiction, and He did. Never once since He spoke it have I wanted one, and to prove his mighty power, He did this to me in one of the worst crisis moments of my life with Kevin. The day after I caught him with the OW that he moved in with for three months when I threw him out that day. I was chain smoked one right after the other from the moment I caught him to the moment I fell asleep that night at some point. It was such a odd time for God to wake me up out of what little fitful sleep I was having to tell me He healed me of smoking! But He did, and He did! That is God, awesome He is! A note of irony, Kevin had quit smoking over a year before this happened and he was always nagging on me about smoking, the smell, the mess, the money. He started again at the same time God removed it from me, and he is still smoking today! It is things like this that boggle Kevins mind and he knows Gods hand is upon me. What he doesnt understand is the enemy is always trying to put his hand upon me too, he is blinded to the workings of the dark side it seems. Cannot recognize when he is being decieved and used, lured to the paths that lead to hell. But he will overcome that too! The devil will be disclosed and defeated in Kevins life, and that is a fact! The devil is a loser, he never had a chance!
Okay, enough rattling my jaw. God bless everyone..love all of you!
Posted by: StarChilde
Kristie, your replies have a tendency to wow me most times... I want to clarify, that I was not saying that you or anyone else posting was murmering and complaining, but rather that was the reason for that generation of Israelites and Moses not to enter into the promised land.I admire your walk with the Lord, and it is an example to me. I am not where I would like to be in my walk with Him, but I am further than where I was, and am growing in it, walking closer to who He would have me be... I am not quite so critical of myself as I use to be, and am learning to say thank you when someone comliments me rather than pushing away the compliment as something not fitting.
The way it was for your dad, was how I felt about my grama. I was very close to her, & it was negligience by the nursing home that led to her death. She had wanted to die for a long time, as her husband had died in 1982, & she felt very much alone without her life companion. She would not tell God that she wanted to die, because she seen that as a sin. I respected her beliefs and truely treasured and cherished the morals and beliefs that she had instilled in me over the years. I knew I had let her down terribly in the way that I had lived my lifestyle, but I had not told her the reality of some things... it would have hurt her even more, to know that her great grandson being conceived was the result of a rape, and not any encounter I had agreed to.I know her love for him would not have been any less, but she knew I had been through enough pain even without my saying a word about it.
What I have learned through the years, is that seeking Him will get me farther, and faster than all the means that I have tried to escape over the years. I have been a Christian since I was a child, yet over the years I know I grieved the Lord so much with my lifestyle. One thing is that I never turned away from God...even while backslidden, I prayed, I still believed, I still knew He was there.Throughout all of the tragedies that I have ever been through, He has been there... He has kept me from ending it all.
I have been standing for healing of my son Brendan who has cerebral palsy with severe other disabilities. In 1986 Ben Kinchlow had a word of knowledge about Brendan... he said there is young mother by the name of Suzanne who is praying for the healing of her child, and God is going to heal her child. I knew it was for me...my tears flowed and heart jumped in exalting the Lord... I get mocked...where is that healing... I still believe... I know Brendan is healed despite what my eyes see...where and when the manifestation of that healing takes place... is only known to Him.
And I understand about the woman that you were being dead and gone, as I am not the same person that I use to be... there are those who still try to dredge up that past... but I know HE has forgiven me, and that is all that really matters after all. I found the following verses to help with this:
Isa 43:18 Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old.
Isa 43:19 Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert.
and yet again mom duties call, so I must prematurely end my post, but I pray my heart is known in what I have said, and thanks for your reply Kristie... I will keep you and yours in my prayers. You aren't that far from me, I'm just a state away.
Posted by: Kristie
OH, AND IMPORTANTLY..I am not bragging on myself because I have a great deal further to go and a great many more victories to gain. Furthermore, it was not me who changed me, who won these victories, it was God, and never for a single second could I have accomplished anything within me or around me on my own, He did all. If He was not orchestrating it all, bringing me up and through, I would still just be that pathetic woman who was more disobedient then those Israelites wandering around in the wilderness for 40 years. I am not even close to being what God can bring someone to if they let Him. But, I intend to keep on letting Him have His way with me, because I am nothing but blessed by it, nothing special in myself, nothing of value in myself, nothing of honor, nothing of strength, absolutely nothing at all of myself, it is all Him..all I am is blessed by Him, that He loves me, that He guides me and lights my paths and takes me through the fires to refine me, slaps me on the potters wheel and remolds me. I am only the works of His hands. I only testify of what He has done with me, so that others can know that they to can overcome these things through Him, so that maybe someone who is in the midst of something they are not understanding can see a glimpse or a revelation in what I have already experienced..if it is something I have already passed through. I think me and Kimberly have that going on often. I have been everywhere Kimberly has been going here lately, and I have felt everything she has felt when it was my time in that fire. I am a open vessel for God to use to help someone else, because maybe the best help and comfort is just to know that someone understands where you are and what you are going through. I am willing, and not just willing, but very blessed, for God to use me in any way He can to help someone else. It was worth every moment of pain and hardship to be able to touch one other persons life for Christ. Praise God!
Posted by: Kristie
Star,
Heavens no, I did not take your post as towards me in that way, or anyone else for that matter, I knew what you were saying. I tend to generalize on the Israelites because God has used the scripture for so long and so much with me in my situation, as well as given me rhema word centered on their behavior, that in speaking casually, I generalize their behavior in reference to Kevins. So I knew you were detailing their behavior and that was all that was about. I was just since you had mentioned it, giving my testimony of having been the worlds worst and how I recieved the revelation of overcoming it in Christ, what happened with me. You are absolutely correct in saying that it is the one area that we all struggle with. If anyone claims they never have, they are lying. It is the hardest part of being a child of God. For one thing, once you become a child of God, things tend to get rough. When you are out there in the world doing your own thing, satan does not have much interest in you, doesnt need to, you are his in that state if you should die. When you accept Christ, not only has he lost a soul he had, but you become a threat to him, and he doesnt take kindly to any of it and he determines right then and there to put you in his sites and starts tormenting you, doing all he can to make you believe you made the wrong decision to accept Christ. If he can make life seem worse with Christ then without, he can drag you back off possibly, and many to do fall to that tactic from him. I have had new Christians state that to me directly. "I am worse off now then I was before, so I may as well go back to having fun." New Christians are weak as it is, and that is when he wants to get a grip on them, drive them away from God, it is the time of best chance for that, and there is none of us that were exempt from that..so yes, we all struggled, and it is fact that everyone of us will, new Christians to come.
You are fine, and I have to run..its hubby for me, but I will come back and post because I want to respond to your testimony also. Seems we all have to go through some tough heartbreak to get where God needs us to be, doesnt it?
Love and bless you!
Posted by: Copper
i pmed u sweetie,
me
Posted by: Kristie
Star,
Okay, I am back and I just wanted to say that I hope you have never felt that there was something wrong with you or that it was your fault concerning the way your son was concieved. You were a victim in that, and so was your son. I guess I can see that maybe the enemy might have tried to make you feel like you done something wrong and that your punishment was your sons afflictions. I would hope you never had to feel that way or any other guilt over your conception situation, because there was nothing bad about it on your part. By the way you describe your grandma, I am sure she was a wonderful woman of God and would not have anything but compassion for you and your child. I think I understand that you are saying you did not want her to have to hurt for your circumstance though, and that is was gracious on your part, a show of love.
I definitely stand with you on your sons healing from the cerebral palsy & other disabilities. That was a direct rhema word that cannot be disputed by anyone. It is just another thing that people have trouble with, faith when it does not happen instantly. I young lady at our church, her nephew was in a serious car accident about a month ago and was paralysed. For the first time ever she recieved a rhema word from God..and I cannot now remember exactly how it came to her, but recall that it was much like yours, undiputable..direct and pointedly for her about the nephew and it was that he would be healed and walk again. It even frightened her somewhat, being a new experience. They expected a instant healing and when it did not come, depression and hopelessness set in. The nephew holed up refusing visitors, food, rehab, he was giving up. I told her that God said it, and He will do it, and they had to just understand that God does not always bring a instant healing, that most healings, outstanding ones anyway, come over time, and that they all needed to stand on Gods word over him, and keep pushing forward..that this healing would come upon over time and working through it. Just to know that this boy was going to walk again and start acting like he already is...get up and get going with the rehab and watch God bring it on! It is also a fact that you can loose the healing. Just another thing that satan will try to take back away from you to smash your faith if he can. You have to keep on declaring that healing even after it manifests. You are right, God said he would heal Brendan and He will, He has everything He needs to do it too, the love and faith of a mother! :-) I stand in faith with you on that for sure. :-)
I think all the time that as bad as my trials have been to me, I know without a doubt that all that I have been through is nothing compared to what many others have been through. I would be willing to vouch that there are people right here on this board reading these posts that have been through much worse then I. Victims of child abuse all their lives, growing up with it and it being all they have known, to be then cast into the world with nothing or no'one they could trust or count on, unloved, feeling unworthy of love, and then have had to go through trial after trial throughout their adulthood as well. Some peoples entire lives have been tainted with nothing but sadness and loneliness for one reason or another. It helps to make one feel grateful for what they have and what they have went through..that it was not as bad as it could have been. I guess no matter how bad things get, it really could always have been worse. There are many damaged people out here in this world that just need love, compassion, Jesus, someone to tell them that they are worthy and precious. Sometimes I feel so small and helpless when I think about all of them out here, and how to possibly reach even a few of them....
God bless everyone...please say a prayer for Brendan everyone who is reading this post..that God bring that healing upon him and use him for the kingdom of Christ.
Posted by: Copper
hey star,
oh wow, this hits home for me.
my husband, my dear sweet husband, is too a product of a rape.
i guess the worse thing in the world, was that his mother let him know this, he is adopted, and only met her like five years ago. i'm not sure if she told him in a good way or a bad way,
i think the main thing to focus on is that every child is a child of God whom God ordained be made, and i truly believe this. i think upon the fact that my husband has every little detail that i don't - every one, his personality is a perfect opposite of mine and he is good at everything i'm not, and then there are those things that are so much alike in us,
this proves to me, that God ordains children, who would have known, that it would take a rape to produce my husband, the perfect man for me?
only God.
please, look upon your son with God's eyes and dream of the wonderful things God has in store for him.
my husband was too born with congenital heart defects , almost died twice, had his heart actually taken out, placed on a table and worked on, as a infant and then as a four year old.
God is in this, he is in this with your son,
Never give up,
Never discount God's Holy Word,
If He promised something to You, He will do it.
anyway, i didn't truly read your post well enough, i'm hard pressed for time, i just wanted to relate to you, how special your son is.
luv you, kimberly
Posted by: Copper
Father God,
i would like to lift up kristie right now,
God i don't know what to ask for or what she and kevin need,
but Lord, i know that You do, You have eyes to see and ears to hear,
Lord i pray you just send some special angels to do Your bidding today for this sweet woman, Lord, i pray that you open kevin's spiritual eyes for good this time, Lord, i pray that the work you have begun in this family's life be finished and completed and that You begin a new work in them,
thank you Jesus, for turning bad to good, thank you Lord, amen.
Posted by: StarChilde
Kim, sad enough the rape was a date rape, and was with a former boyfriend, who did not respect me enough to hear my No. After he raped me, he went out and stole a corvette, very bad judgment on both counts. Brendan has always been special to me, from in embryo to out! Another 3 weeks, 3 days, he turns 24. Earlier this year, we almost lost Brendan a few times, and I thank God for each day I have with Bren. God bless~
Posted by: Kristie
Kim,
Thank you for that prayer, that was just what was needed, perfect and thank you, I claim that!
Star,
We will see Brenden made whole and well...he is a blessing, I know that he is that for you and those who love him and have had the joy of him in their lives, give him a big hug for me. Gods glory will reign over Brenden! Praise God!
Posted by: StarChilde
thanks kristie. Whether it's God's will for Brendan's healing manifest here or in heaven, as long as either is in God's will with no part from the enemy, I accept it. Hug given & returned. Bren has always been a hugger. 
Posted by: Kristie
Amen sister, because I was thinking the same thing...Brenden is guaranteed to be healed and made perfect in Heaven, and one thing with Brenden...there never was a single doubt that Brenden would be going to Heaven, as he is one of Gods special children, special angels is what I call them. Other kids grow up and get side tracked and end up lost. As a nurse I have taken care of special needs children, and they are a blessing like none other..I have always said they are closer to God then any of us, pure and innocent and all they really know is love...they are love and they have a special place, position in Heaven, I am sure of that. All my love to you both..
Posted by: WeRFamily
Hi All,
Kristie, I am praying hard for you sister. I have been in a very ugly place and will comment later but I see you are still as awesome as ever.
Star - it's always a pleasure to "hear" your voice and I just have to comment on something here. I was floored when I read your scripture refereneces in Deu and Numbers because I woke up with a thought I couldn't let go of. It was this...I hope it makes sense...Moses struck the rock when God commanded him to simply speak to it and He would bring forth the water, not Moses. We know the rest of the story. But for so long I was deceived to think that I had to speak things into my marriage because that rock, after all, represented my marriage. What a fool I was. It hit me this morning that the Rock is my Creator. The One who made me, knows what's best for me, and has a plan and a purpose for me. From now on, I will bring all my problems to my Rock. Anyway, I suppose I just wanted to say, thank's for the confirmation. And, for teaching me the value of this particular scripture references.
Posted by: StarChilde
Here are some more references to rock in Bible verses, there are actually 106 altogether in the King James version, I did not include them all, but those referring most to Christ Jesus, and our Heavenly Father.Glad that this helped you, hope these verses further help~ God bless~
Deu 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
Deu 32:15 But Jeshurun waxed fat, and kicked: thou art waxen fat, thou art grown thick, thou art covered with fatness; then he forsook God which made him, and lightly esteemed the Rock of his salvation.
Deu 32:18 Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.
Deu 32:30 How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight, except their Rock had sold them, and the LORD had shut them up?
Deu 32:31 For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges.
Deu 32:37 And he shall say, Where are their gods, their rock in whom they trusted,
1Sa 2:2 There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
2Sa 22:2 And he said, The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer;
2Sa 22:3 The God of my rock; in him will I trust: he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge, my saviour; thou savest me from violence.
2Sa 22:32 For who is God, save the LORD? and who is a rock, save our God?
2Sa 22:47 The LORD liveth; and blessed be my rock; and exalted be the God of the rock of my salvation.
2Sa 23:3 The God of Israel said, the Rock of Israel spake to me, He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God.
Psa 18:2 The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.
Psa 18:31 For who is God save the LORD? or who is a rock save our God?
Psa 18:46 The LORD liveth; and blessed be my rock; and let the God of my salvation be exalted.
Psa 28:1 Unto thee will I cry, O LORD my rock; be not silent to me: lest, if thou be silent to me, I become like them that go down into the pit.
Psa 31:2 Bow down thine ear to me; deliver me speedily: be thou my strong rock, for an house of defence to save me.
Psa 31:3 For thou art my rock and my fortress; therefore for thy name's sake lead me, and guide me.
Psa 42:9 I will say unto God my rock, Why hast thou forgotten me? why go I mourning because of the oppression of the enemy?
Psa 62:2 He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved.
Psa 62:6 He only is my rock and my salvation: he is my defence; I shall not be moved.
Psa 62:7 In God is my salvation and my glory: the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God.
Psa 71:3 Be thou my strong habitation, whereunto I may continually resort: thou hast given commandment to save me; for thou art my rock and my fortress.
Psa 78:35 And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer.
Psa 89:26 He shall cry unto me, Thou art my father, my God, and the rock of my salvation.
Psa 92:15 To shew that the LORD is upright: he is my rock, and there is no unrighteousness in him.
Psa 94:22 But the LORD is my defence; and my God is the rock of my refuge.
Psa 95:1 O come, let us sing unto the LORD: let us make a joyful noise to the rock of our salvation.
Isa 17:10 Because thou hast forgotten the God of thy salvation, and hast not been mindful of the rock of thy strength, therefore shalt thou plant pleasant plants, and shalt set it with strange slips:
Mat 7:25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
Posted by: WeRFamily
Thanks Star - for the lessons.
Posted by: StarChilde
Each time that I look up verses for something, or do reading and studying for an answer, it is a blessing to me too, and I learn more in the process. One of my friends jokingly calls me madame search engine, because of my abilities of researching. I was a research librarian's assistant for a few years of work study, where I learned some of it. One resource down-loadable off of the web, with several Bible versions and commentaties, is E-Sword. It has the blessing of being a free download as well. It allows you to compare the Bible versions you download with each other. It's something I use everyday. God bless.