Pages: 1

THE THIRD HEAVEN

(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)

Posted by: Elijah


THE THIRD HEAVEN
---A Prophetic Cry for the eyes of our Heart to be opened and hunger for
the deep things of God.

By Todd Bentley
Todd's email: toddbentle**hotmail.com
July 26, 2000




2 Kings 7:17 And Elisha prayed, and said," Lord, I pray. open his eyes
that he may see. " Then the Lord opened the eyes of the young man and
he saw, And behold the mountain was full of horses and chariots of
fire all around Elisha.

As I was waiting on the spirit of God earlier tonight I felt a release
in my heart to call for the Eyes of God's servants to be opened to the
reality of the Spiritual realm. Angels, demons, trances, visions,
dreams, prophetic experiences and (The Third Heaven}


CAUGHT UP INTO PARADISE

The apostle Paul said in (2 Cor 12:2,4) "I know a man in Christ who
fourteen years ago whether in the body I do not know, or whether out
of the body I do not know, God knows was caught up to the third
heaven. How he was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible
words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. I believe these
prophetic experiences are about to increase on the body of Christ and
young people."

Two and a half years ago in a three month visitation of God's Glory
that lasted at times 4-12 hours a day, the Holy Spirit took me into the
heavens several times and, out of this season I received the
supernatural release into our ministry and the healing and prophetic
mantle that God has given us.


SUPERNATURAL GUIDANCE

Prior to this season, I worked in the mill on the green chain and now
we travel internationally doing up to 30 meetings a month or more and
are exploding beyond or ability quickly. The reason I share this with you
is because I believe that it is the "kairos" of God in the spirit to
visit his church with what was the common experience of the early church
and our forefathers: "Supernatural Guidance and Visitation"

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. And the Lord
God formed man out of the dust of the earth and put man in the garden.

I believe that as redeemed saints in Christ, who have made our peace
with God-- have [supernatural] access to the throne of Grace (through his
blood) just as natural as it is for us with our five natural senses to
touch, taste, smell, hear and see the realm of Created earth.

I know that I am to-- with my Spiritual senses, experience what God has
created in heaven now. I want to see Angels, Paradise and operate in
the supernatural knowing, have visions, dreams and interact with heaven.


THE SUPERNATURAL THROUGHOUT SCRIPTURE

>From the beginning of the bible to the end you see God speaking to his
church Abram, Jacob and Joseph and Moses-- through angels, the burning bush,
visions and dreams. Daniel saw the prince of Persia and Michael the
Arch angel. Ezekiel was caught up into visions of God and taken before
the four living Creatures, the Glory and fire of God. Peter went into
a trance, Paul had so many prophetic experiences that he relates to it
as a thorn in the flesh was given me, due to the "abundance of visions
and revelations." As happened with John the revelator and on and on.
The experience of Saul and the directing of Cornelius, etc.

We believe it strange today as a church that one see angels or speaks
of being caught up into Heaven, or visions and prophetic experiences.


WE LET THE DEVIL TAKE OUR SPIRITUAL RIGHTS

We have let the devil and the new-age movement and every other false
God take away Our spiritual rights, and strike fear into our hearts in
such away that we trust the devil's ability to deceive us more than we
trust God's ability to keep us. Note-- I am not saying that we ought
not to test all things and walk in wisdom in how we communicate what
God gives us but let's be hungry for what God has for us in the third
heaven. Then ask Him for what He wants from us most-- the character to
be able to stand with all that he gives us. I don't look for experiences
but I hunger for heaven and all that is mine in Christ. I want to know
the realm of where God dwells even as I know this earth.

I see the Holy spirit in a larger corporate way, visiting His Church
like He visited Smith Wigglesworth with the faces, names of the sick,
and demon possessed at times even before his meetings. God would take
John G. Lake to the sick and hospitals in the spirit and he would he
heal them and even at times preach the gospel.

What about the translation of Philip from place to place? I see Trances,
the word of Knowledge and angelic experiences that will release the
revelation of sickness and the devils schemes, so we can set captives
free. God's direction and purpose to his people and warnings like when
God visited Joseph and Mary, his direction through dreams, and so on.

In a world that is hungry for esp., and psychics, meditation and Guru
healing, Tarot reading and Astral travel--- We need to experience the
TRUTH of all that God has for us in his Glory and NOT the devil's FALSE
counterfeit experiences. I believe that even those who read this word,
many of you will even struggle with the reality of what God wants us to
have and struggle with reality of believing that we need to contend for
this experience of God manifested in the church..

=============

Evangelist Todd Bentley. For more info on Todd and this ministry
please visit the below weblink and remember the upcoming Conference
below. Registrations are being taken now--

Miracles, signs and Wonders Conference
Sept 14-17 at Valley Christian Fellowship
Abbotsford, British Columbia
Speakers: Todd Bentley and Bob Brasset
Worship: Norm Stauss and Clif Robertson
More info email- toddbentle**home.com
Web Site: http://www.thearc.bc.ca








Posted by: Reserved

I am having a very difficult time with Christian who are bloodthirsty and calling for war.

It is not the Father's will that anyone perish.

Most Christians are hoping and praying for Armagedeon but when Armagedeon occurs -- all will perish -- that is not the Father's will.

The Father's will is that we love one another.

I agree with you that we have been duped by the counterfeit world of Satan. The evil one is right in our sanctuaries and must be cast out. The house of God has been turned into a den of thieves.

We cannot put up with any "man of God" who is goading us into being blood thirsty.

While America is founded on the principals of seeking after God, there were many who came to this country to worship the God of Mammon (money) and as a consequence they killed the Indians in their rush for gold. There is much blood that has been spilled in the name of God, there have been so many blasphemies against our Holy God that it is getting dangerous to be alive on this planet.

Only the Christians and followers of Christ can turn the situation around. We are the vessels of light what honor do we have with murderers and those who call for war and bloodshedding?

Now is the time for all those who love Jesus Christ to wake up and notice what is happening.

How many of us have been praying that Armagedeon will not occur?

Peace and Love


Posted by: talena

"What about the translation of Philip from place to place? I see Trances,
the word of Knowledge and angelic experiences that will release the
revelation of sickness and the devils schemes, so we can set captives
free. God's direction and purpose to his people and warnings like when
God visited Joseph and Mary, his direction through dreams, and so on."

************************************************** **

TRANCES?? First of all a trance requires a BLANK mind, and NO ONE should allow themselves to be put into a trance as it a GATEWAY for demonic activity! This is one reason folks should stay away from practices like YOGA!

Secondly WE can not set the captives free...only GOD can do that!

There were SEVERAL things in this "prophecy" that I would love to touch on, but I refuse. I am just going to pray that God would grant wisdom to anyone else that reads this.

AND SOMETIMES we as christians give Satan TOO much credit. He is NOT omnipresent NOR omnipotent! He can not read our minds. Christians need to learn to step up to the plate and declare GOD and take responsibility for their sins. STOP blaming the devil for everything! The devil did not HAVE to take away spiritual rights, most people were all too willing to give them up.

If you dont fight to keep the things you cherish, if you dont guard and protect them...you will lose them. Like a wedding ring...if you dont keep it close to you at all times and you just throw it around, and lay it anywhere, and are careless with it...eventually it will disappear. BUT that does not mean someone stole it from you. More than likely YOU LOST IT YOURSELF!


Posted by: Reserved

Hi Talena: you are blessed with much wisdom. You are right indeed we must hold on to what we have. I cherish my salvation and having had the experience of almost losing it, I know what a precious gift I have. I would go as far to say that my life motive is to hold onto my salvation until my Savior calls me home.

You are also wise to understand that when we open ourselves up to trances we allow the enemy entrance into our being.

It is very encouraging finding a young lady who is wise beyond her years but I bet you would tell me that your wisdom comes as a result of your walk with the Lord. You keep on believing and walking with God and He will surely guide and direct your paths.


Posted by: talena

Thank you for encouraging me. You are a blessing. And yes, any wisdom that I have is a result of my intimacy with God. I give Him all the honor and glory.


Posted by: Starya

I pray everyday that all of the people in this world will all be alright. It would be nice if we could all pull together to make this world the wonderful place God intended for it to be instead of fighting and arguing. We are all people so why can't we just accept each others differences and get along? Starya


Posted by: Reserved

This morning when I woke up to my radio I heard the announcement that in retaliation to a stament made by one of the White House staff that the White House staffer's wife's name was released to the media. The statement that the staffer made was that the disaster of 9/11 was manipulated to put us into war.

I was in New York City on 9/11 and almost got hit by a fire truck on my way to work, of course I did not know it at that moment but the firemen were on their way to the twin towers. Later, I was very deep in prayer waiting for my diabetic friend to meet me so we could get back to New Jersey together. I knew we were under attack. I had seen the second plane hit on a TV set in my lobby at my mid-town office building. I knew that the Pentagon had been attacked and I knew the plane went down in Philadelphia. To me it felt like the end of the world and my spirit was very grieved and frightened. All I could do was pray and pray. I could not comprehend what was happening nor could I understand why an enemy would want to push a powerful nation like the United States into war by such acts of aggression.

While I was praying the Lord placed something in my heart. I did not know what it was and for lack of any thing else to call it, I named it blessed assurance. I knew God was with me that day and heard my heart's cry.

A few months later, a man of God was at my church and singled me out to let me know that I would reveal a vision of God for the church. I am still praying about this. I realized when the man of God told me this that God had placed that vision in my heart that day of 9/11 when I was praying so fervently. I am awed that God would select me to reveal His vision but I believe the man of God and I am humble when I realize that the voice of God once came from a donkey's mouth - so not to get too proud!

I know there is a lot of talk going around in Christian circles on how we are in a just war. Murder is never just. God wants us to forgive others the way He forgives us. We need to pray for God's love and light to enter the hearts of all humankind so that our children and their children have a beautiful world to live and worship God in.

True Christians are the only one who can bring this vision of peace from the Prince of Peace into this troubled world. We are the only ones who can bring the message of Jesus Christ to love and cherish each other ... that was always the message and is still the message.

I pray for our leaders and I pray for our young people who are caught up in this war. I pray for our church which is all the body of Christ and all the believers in Christ in the world. There is hope for this world and that hope is the hope of Christ Jesus.

It is really tragic that God's message of love and peace has been used as an instrument of hatred through the crusades, through the inquisition, through the annihiliation of the American Indians, through slavery, through the holocaust, and now through the lie of a "just war".

God is truth and no lie can be in harmony with God. It is up to the redeemed in Christ to take a stand against that which is a lie and be wise enough to know that the true message of Christ is about love and forgiveness and walking in humility and peace and love.

We who are the body of Christ need to be walking epistles of that Love and forgiveness realizing that the perfect love of Christ casts out all fear, we can quietly and humbly refuse to go along with bloodthirsty oil mongers who speak out of both sides of their mouth.

Now is the time to go deep into the word. Jesus Christ is the word of God. And the word became flesh and dwelt among us. We who have invited the Prince of Peace into our hearts have nothing in common with those who are crying for blood. We are the redeemed and without Our Savior who lives in us there is no light in the world. We are the salt of the earth and if we sprinkle ourselves lightly to avoid arguments among those who have yet to invite Christ into their hearts we may persuade others to live a life of hope and peace.

We need to agree with each other. God is not about murder. It is written "thou shall not kill". Please do not get confused. God cannot lie. God is truth. God is just.

My little children, do not be deceived.

God is love.


Posted by: talena

You are right, we are the salt of the world. Back in Jesus' time salt was used to preserve food.

We are here to preserve the world...not "flavor" it as many christians think we should be doing. We are not here to just be a "flavor", we are here to work for God's glory. We have to work to preserve.


Posted by: Reserved

Talena: That is a very astute observation...if we are to preserve the earth, keep our salt salty, we do have a lot of work. It is not very Christlike to sit back and get all comfortable because we have our salvation...what about the rest of the souls?

There is a great mission work going on in China where we hear that people get put to death if caught with a Bible...

God's word is prohesied to go throughout the world...each of us need to figure out what we can do to add our salt and be a preservative to the world

Sitting around hoping that Armaggedeon will come soon is not the answer. When Armaggedeon occurs, there will not be much of the earth left, so it is better that more souls are brought to salvation as it is written: It is not the Father's will that anyone perish.

The true spirit of the message of Jesus Christ is to love one another. While we were unsaved, there were many people who shined their light and gave us the direction we needed that pointed to Christ. We now need to do the same.

The fact that there is work to do is belabored in the scripture that reads:

The harvest is ready but the workers are few.

There are many, many souls who need to know the Gospel of Jesus and we are not going to bring it to them by mere words. Actions always speak louder than words is what Jesus taught when He said:

I was hungry and you gave me something to eat
Thirsty and you gave me something to drink
Naked and you gave me something to wear
Homeless and you gave me someplace to sleep

Our acts of mercy help us to salt the earth. People do notice decency and kindness and are often drawn to it.

We can be the salt of the earth if we choose to preserve it.


Posted by: teamjesus

Quote:
Originally Posted by talena
"What about the translation of Philip from place to place? I see Trances,
the word of Knowledge and angelic experiences that will release the
revelation of sickness and the devils schemes, so we can set captives
free. God's direction and purpose to his people and warnings like when
God visited Joseph and Mary, his direction through dreams, and so on."

************************************************** **

TRANCES?? First of all a trance requires a BLANK mind, and NO ONE should allow themselves to be put into a trance as it a GATEWAY for demonic activity! This is one reason folks should stay away from practices like YOGA!



good point, but let me show you a verse in My Fathers Book

Act 10:9 The next day as they were still on their way and were approaching the town, Peter went up to the roof of the house to pray, about the sixth hour (noon).
Act 10:10 But he became very hungry, and wanted something to eat; and while the meal was being prepared a trance came over him,
Act 10:11 And he saw the sky opened and something like a great sheet lowered by the four corners, descending to the earth.
Act 10:12 It contained all kinds of quadrupeds and wild beasts and creeping things of the earth and birds of the air.

and so on... notice in verse 10 you see peter go into a trance in the Holy Spirit..



Peace be with you from God allmighty!


Posted by: talena

The greek word in the original scripture is ekstasis. The definition is amazement. The word trance was substituted for "amazement". But, the original scripture never refers to the displacement of the mind. Obviously, Peter's mind was not blank as he was experiencing a vision from God.

We have to be careful how we pray and teach others about the Word. I know and understand you (teamjesus), so...please, do not misunderstand. You made it a point to stress Peter was in the Spirit and that he was able to "SEE" a vision. Thank you for providing the scripture in it's entirity.

There are many religions that teach meditation and trances as a way of worship. They teach that we should clear our minds and blank them out and keep them open for fulfillment, etc...

That is not of God. That is new age. That I do not agree with.


Posted by: teamjesus

Quote:
Originally Posted by talena
The greek word in the original scripture is ekstasis. The definition is amazement. The word trance was substituted for "amazement". But, the original scripture never refers to the displacement of the mind. Obviously, Peter's mind was not blank as he was experiencing a vision from God.

We have to be careful how we pray and teach others about the Word. I know and understand you (teamjesus), so...please, do not misunderstand. You made it a point to stress Peter was in the Spirit and that he was able to "SEE" a vision. Thank you for providing the scripture in it's entirity.

There are many religions that teach meditation and trances as a way of worship. They teach that we should clear our minds and blank them out and keep them open for fulfillment, etc...

That is not of God. That is new age. That I do not agree with.


*Grin* in that case, all i can say to that, is GLORY TO GOD!, and.. you go girl you hit it in a nut shell, thank you

Peace be with you and your family from the Author and Finsher of Our Faith