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wiccans are far better christians than you people

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Posted by: JG

I received this email tonight what do you think


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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 00:57:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jen Dransik <>
To: webmaster*anointed.net

Subject: Love thy neighbor.

I'm sorry but I feel that the editors at your paper are a godless bunch of heathens. If do not read and follow EVERY PART of the bible, then you shouldn't be preaching it at all. The bible does not tell you to ostracize people of other religions or sexual preferences, or whatnot. Or perhaps the line "love the sinner, hate the sin" has escaped your memories?

And scaring your followers with misinformation to make them hate outsiders even more is just disgusting. Wiccans do not worship satan. I have a family member who decided to follow the wiccan religion. As you can imagine, I was a little worried at first. But I actually took the time to find out what goes on, before I voiced my doubts. And what I found is that wiccans are far better christians than you people. One of their main beliefs is 'an harm it none, do as though wilt'
Unlike you people, they wouldn't go around gutting other peoples pets over different beliefs. Unlike you people, they wouldn't go vandalizing peoples homes.
Unlike you people, they wouldn't go beating gay people within an inch of their lives.
Unlike you people, they wouldn't publish hate mongering websites and publications.

You can believe what you will about me. I am agnostic. I was brought up in a catholic family, and have tried many christian churches in my lifetime. I have found them all to be too closed-minded and full of hypocrisy for my liking.

I am appalled at what christians have become. In the Roman days, they were hunted, tormented, and looked down upon. These days, you're doing that same thing to others. Haven't you learned a thing?

You people should be ashamed of yourselves.




Posted by: StarChilde

Whewie... is this person EVER MISINFORMED about wicca! And those who call themself Christian are very much wrong if they do things like killing people's pet, or committing harm against others.

Wicca very MUCH is a part of the enemy, and the article that I had put on here had some very good points about it, but also was saying that some things of the Bible were myths, so I removed it. I will find a better article, and post. God bless.



Posted by: StarChilde

Witches Do Not Believe In or Acknowledge The Devil/SatanWhile Wicca has a modern origin, they eclecticly draw upon diabolical occult information, rituals, and ceremonies from idol worshippers of the past. In fact, they use a deceptive scheme involving semantic word games to deny their involvement with the Devil and or Satan. For instance, Wiccans will tell you that they believe in Lucifer. They claim that "he is the god of the Sun and of the Moon." However most knowledgeable Wiccans recognize that the book La Sorciere by French historian Jules Michelet is a major contributer to their cult (The English version is published by Citadel Press under the title Satanism and Witchcraft). But, here's the facts. "Michelet's book is full of passionate, sympathetic depictions of Satan and medieval witchcraft."

Then there is the book by Charles G. Leland - Aradia:Gospel of the Witches, which is another major source of Wiccan beliefs. The very first paragraph reads…

"Diana greatly loved her brother Lucifer, the god of the Sun and of the Moon, the god of Light, who was so proud of his beauty, and who for his pride was driven from Paradise."

GOTCHA! This is a reference to Isaiah 14 in the Bible where Lucifer is expelled from the presence of God and becomes the Devil or Satan! In fact, Isaiah 14:12 (KJV) is the only passage where Lucifer is mentioned in the entire Bible. Otherwise he is called the Devil, Satan, the Dragon, etc.
(Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!)
But that is not the only example. In Mastering Witchcraft: A Practical Guide for Witches… Paul Huson makes this statement - "This is a beginner's guide to practical witchcraft, revealing the techniques and secret workings of those who practice the black arts. It presents the first steps to becoming a witch…It answers all the basic questions about spells, magical recipes, rituals, divination, covens, curses, apparatus, how to develop one's power, etc. From reciting the Lord's Prayer backward through…details for spells to arouse lust…attain vengeance…"

Speaking of vengeance, consider this ritual of wrath "a conjuration of the Horned One" recorded on page 186 - "I conjure thee by Barabbas, by Satanas, by the devil cursed be! I summon thee by Barabbas, by Satanas by the devil conjured be! By the underworld itself…" Need I note that Barabbas and Satanas are references to the devil who is mentioned?

Again, we see the attempt by modern witches to deny the truth.The Gospel of John 8:44 has interesting ramifications when it comes to this cover-up by witches -- "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."



Posted by: JG

Thank You Star:

I knew I could count on you.
I get a lot of these and normally I just delete them

You know I think We should pray for Jen.

There is so little she really understands about Jesus

I like the fact the wants to defend

If we get her saved think of how hard she will work for Jesus

Father I sand in the Gap for Jen right now
Satan I command you to take the blindness off her eyes right now.
Father I pray she see's your glory in Jesus Name

I am sorry I have not answered some of your PM's these last two days.

Three days ago I got 4800 emails
Yesterday over 2000
and tonight over 1600 in 5 hours.

So I have been a little busy trying to answer them.

The email portion is bigger than the board.

Most people like to email me instead of post.

I will be trying to get some assistants or moderators who will help me answer the email and try and get them to post the prayers instead of emailing me.




Posted by: prayyior

It seems Jen, you don't understand anything about Christians...
1. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. (No one is perfect, all will make mistakes and do things we shouldn't, including me and you)
2. Just because someone calls themselves a "Christian", doesn't mean that they are.
3. Just because you say that wiccans do not worship Satan, does not make it so. True, they may not "officially" worship Satan, but they certainly do not worship the one true God either. They may not even have a sense that there is a one true God. Hell will be full of people who "thought" they knew the way....or are surprised they didn't re-live their life as a frog, or that thought everything ended at death.
4. Because someone/anyone believes something doesn't make it so.
5. There is all kinds of historical references in addition to the Bible that tells of Jesus existance on this earth, and He is the one who said..."I am the way, the truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
6. There is no life, except for Christ. There is no way to clean one's self of sin or all the bad things we do except through Christ's death on the cross, so that we could be forgiven.
7. Life is too short to waste it by practicing any religion. Jesus is the only answer, there is a God-shaped hole in every heart that cannot be filled except by God. It is always our desire to do it our way, and until we are willing to "hear" what the one true God has to say, and ask him to show us, then our hearts remain hard, and our pride gets in the way.
8. I encourage you to just ask God the Creator if there is anything to the things I have just spoken and if there is, would he show you, and not let your past beliefs or attitudes get in the way.
9. God is a personal God. You are responsible for asking him to show you himself, and for accepting his "free to you" gift of forgiveness and salvation. God knows what's going on in your head and your heart, and the Bible says that "Every knee shall bow and Every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord" The only question is when you will do that. Now, while you still have a life to live or after you die, when you will not have the option of changing your mind, once you Know for sure, what is truth.
10. In your heart of hearts, having been raised Catholic, you know you stated falsehoods. You know that "real" Christians don't kill animals, or vandalize homes or beat up those who have been deceived and are practicing a sinful life style, or arouse hate-mongering. You know we are called to pray for those who are not living the way they should.
11. There will always be people who are intolerant of sin, whether it is wicca or pornography or homosexuality or stealing or lying and the list goes on. We should be intolerant. If we fail to state the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, then we are guilty of not telling you. God the Father, Creator of the heavens and the earth and all things that were created tells us in His Word that we need to share the truth, because he doesn't want any to die in their sin, and not be able to spend eternity with Him.
12. I am incredibly thankful that there are hippocrites in churches. I would prefer that there were none, but it is where they belong.....Just like hospitals should have sick people. Where else do you find help? Hospitals and their staffs, help to heal the body. Churches and their staffs, help to heal the soul of a person. It is sad, that many hospitals have care that is not perfect, also there are churches that don't provide "truth" to be taught.
13. The only route to living a life of value is in Asking Jesus the Christ to forgive your sin, and allowing Him to be Lord of your life. If you give him all of you...you will find peace, and joy, and hope, and perhaps one day you will find a "bible-believing" church which will help you become the person God always intended you to be.
14. God has a plan for your life. The plan is to prosper you and not to harm you. It is a plan with a future and a hope.
15. I Pray that God will touch your heart. Open your eyes, that you might see him and open your ears that you may hear him, and I ask Him to make himself so real to you, that you will never doubt again.
16. It makes little sense to worship the creation, when the creator is at hand and wants you to know him.
17. I ask God to reveal himself, and his Son Jesus the Christ and the Holy Spirit to you. I ask it in the Name of Jesus and for the Glory of His Kingdom.
18. I send no condemnation to you Jen. I only ask the best for you.



Posted by: ANOINTED WARRIOR

Jen you can say all you want but the truth of the matter is your running from God and are at the end of your rope and need to call out for Jesus to save you from the despair and darkness you are in.. You can come just as you are to him and he will not turn you away, instead he will grab you and give you a huge big hug and love on you more than you can imagine.. Your time may be up in just a few more hours for the bible says it is appointed once for man to die.. (Hebrews 9 27And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment) Are you 100% sure in where you are going. Jesus says whosoever calls on the name of the lord shall be saved..(Romans 10:13) Do you want this if so begin to call on Jesus name now and ask him to come into your heart as saviour and lord, he will never leave you nor forsake you and will be there when times get ruff and when you feel llike there is no hope.. Once you ask Jesus into your heart you will recieve an everlasting eternal peace that will be there even during the trials in life... God Bless



Posted by: akabezalel

Father, I stand with JG in the gap for Jen and ask that You cover her with the Blood of the Lamb, show her Your Goodness and bring her to Jesus for her Salvation.

Do not allow the evil one to have any part of her.

Satan, release Jen immediately.

I rebuke the demonic powers that are blinding her to the truth and stopping her ears from hearing the Spirit of Truth! In the Name of Jesus, let her go now!

Holy Spirit, I release Jen to You for her Salvation! Bring her in to our Family, whole, clean and changed!

Thank You Father for Your compassion, mercy and grace for without them we would be like the people she is speaking of. Thank You Lord for saving me from myself and the evil one! Thank You Father for loving Jen enough to bring her into the kingdom a beloved child. Thank You!

Thank You Jesus for the freedom in the Salvation You bought for me! I can be like You and not corrupt. Thank You for purchasing Jen's Salvation with Your Blood also!

Thank You Holy Spirit for the Truth You lead me to daily! Thank You for guiding me to Jesus and Salvation! Thank You for wrking in Jen's life to bring her to Salvation!

Thank You! AMEN!



Posted by: StarChilde

In the name of JESUS, I cover myself, Jen and the ones reading this with the Blood of JESUS. I ask for giant warrior angels to protect us. As your war club and weapons of war I break down, undam, and blow up all walls of protection around all witches, warlocks, wizards, satanists, sorcerers, and the like, and I break the power of all curses, hexes, vexes, spells, charms, fetishes, psychic prayers, psychic thoughts, all Witchcraft, sorcery, magic, voodoo, all mind control, jinxes, potions, bewitchments, death, destruction, sickness, pain, torment, psychic power, psychic warfare, prayer chains, incense and candle burning, incantations, chanting, blessings, hoodoo, crystals, root works, and everything else being sent my way, or my family member's way, Jen's way or any member of her family's way, or the way of anyone reading this, and I return it, and the demons to the sender, SEVENFOLD, and I bind it to them by the Blood of Jesus, and I cut and burn their ungodly silver cord and lay lines , in JESUS' Name.In the mighty name of Jesus, by the power of His blood, I break off every power of the kingdom of darkness. I cancel every argument in Heaven and spoil every attack of the enemy that has tried to establish itself against myself, Jen, or anyone reading this prayer, also anyone on anointed.net prayer board.I ask this in the Blessed Name above ALL others, that of His Son, Christ Jesus~ amen and amen

Acts 5:38 "Now in the present case let me say to you, stand off (withdraw) from these men and let them alone. For if this doctrine or purpose or undertaking or movement is of human origin, it will fail (be overthrown and come to nothing);"

Acts 5:39 "But if it is of God, you will not be able to stop or overthrow or destroy them; you might even be found fighting against God!"



Posted by: prayyior

Father, I join and affirm Starchilde's prayer. Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is Liberty. We claim that Liberty in the Mighty Name of Jesus! "Whatever you ask, believing, I will do it!" said the Lord.
Amen and Amen



Posted by: StarChilde

First of all, we’re not a paper, and there is no editor here, but an administrator, whom is quite loved & respected. We see him as a man of God who has loved the Lord Jesus Christ, & whose main goal is to bring salvation to those lost & hurting. He likens this board to a prayer hospital, where those who are lost & hurting come for treatment, and the treatment is prayer, and the treatment is truth of God’s word, and of His will.


As you might well understand, to the site comes a plethora of people, of all nationalities, all different types of belief, and the majority who do come, believe in Christ Jesus for their salvation. There is that slight majority who don’t, & we try to bring them to the truth of who Christ Jesus is, & His sacrifice for every person, His great Love, & His wanting all to accept Him as Saviour. We recognize that not all are going to come to that point, but we praise God for being able to share the truth about Christ Jesus.

The Bible does say Love they Neighbor as thyself… nowhere does it say Love the sinner, hate the sin. And it IS not people who should be hated, but rather embraced & loved as Christ Jesus loves. It is true, He does love us as we are, yet His heart breaks to see those who do not accept Him, who embrace religions as a replacement for Him, who embrace cults & walk in heathenism, & pagan ways. Jesus Christ is not a religion, He is the Son of the Most High El Shaddai, Abba Father, Lord God Almighty, Yahweh, The Great I AM that I AM, & it was by Christ Jesus’ death that we ALL might be saved, for God is not willing that any perish, but that ALL might come to repentance… the turning away from sin, for confession of sins, and accepting His Son as OUR PERSONAL SAVIOUR, each & every person on this EARTH!


2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.


Wicca does have it root beliefs in Satanism. You accuse us of not having done our homework on Wicca. Surely you cannot expect every person to be versed in the study of it, anymore than we can expect every believer to be well-versed in the Bible, as there are all diversity of Christian believers here, from newly saved, to baby Christians, to more mature Christians, and with a whole range of gifts & knowledge of the Bible, & God. I happen to know things about Wicca because I have studied it, my own son is involved with it, & his wife, plus his in-laws are very much involved in it. Does it concern me? To an extent, but I also know that I have put it into God’s hands, for the truth to be known to them all.


And even tho one of the main beliefs may be this “an it harm none, do as ye will”, are you going to tell me that there are those who stick to this 100%? That there are none who cross over into black magic? You cannot speak for all… just as I cannot speak for ALL Christians. And magic is WRONG… it is going to another source besides God, and He clearly says in His Word that this is WRONG.

Deu 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,

Deu 18:11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

Deu 18:12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

Deu 18:13 Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.

Those Christians who trash people’s homes, or kill their pets, or cause damage to another’s properties, or who beat up or sometimes even kill are NOT following the Image of Christ Jesus as we are suppose to be, or walking in the will of God, or His ways. I am sure it breaks His heart to see such travesty & tragedy done in the Name of His Son, or by those calling themselves Christians. You are RIGHT… that kind of behaviour is OUT AND OUT WRONG! NO MATTER WHO DOES IT! And there ARE those Christians who are persecuted for their beliefs… it is the same everywhere all over the world. Wars are fought because beliefs differ.

In Christianity, we are to come to God daily, asking forgiveness of our sins, be made anew in Him every day. There is no need for forgiveness in Pagan traditions & religions, for there is no concept of sins. If nothing hurts anyone else,then there is no harm, but WHO decides what is harm? WHO decides what is wrong? There is the tenet of wicca in that you will be paid back 3 times for all you do, but what about those who are willing to forgo and say that they accept anything back that comes their way, that occasional harm is acceptable, as long as the “doer” is willing to have the karmic recompense.Can you honestly say that NO wiccan or pagan has ever done harm to another? Of course not, because everyone is responsible for their own actions. I cannot say that no Christian has ever done harm to another. Those Christians who DO harm to another, are those who are not walking in the Will of God. There are those who have committed great harm and charged it to their beliefs, thinking they were upholding God’s will. They are sadly and grieviously wrong, and I pray that they might come to a knowledge of truth of God, and His Word and will.

Neotolerance for wiccans and pagans is the NORM, rather than not. They say as long as you accept it and it is your truth, then that is ok for you, as long as you accept that I may think differently,or believe differently, everything is true, etc., etc., etc.,

God does not accept any imitations before Him. He says I am the LORD THY GOD AND YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME. This means ANYTHING we put before God, is wrong.

You say: Unlike you people, they wouldn't go around gutting other peoples pets over different beliefs. Unlike you people, they wouldn't go vandalizing peoples homes. Unlike you people, they wouldn't go beating gay people within an inch of their lives. Unlike you people, they wouldn't publish hate mongering websites and publications.

How CAN YOU put us ALL in the same category for our beliefs? We are though UNLIKE YOU PEOPLE, in that we have recognized that we are lost without Jesus Christ, & have accepted Him as our Saviour. UNLIKE YOU PEOPLE we want all to come to this knowledge that Jesus is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE, and no man comes to the Father but by Him. UNLIKE YOU PEOPLE we do not believe in reincarnation, as man is appointed ONCE TO DIE, & there IS NO OTHER CHANCE TO ACCEPT HIM!!!

Heb 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.



Your problem? Right here èhave tried many christian churches in my lifetime. I do NOT believe in a CHURCH, I AM PART OF THE CHURCH, PART OF THE BODY OF CHRIST JESUS! Religion is MAN”S ANSWER to GOD, and Christ Jesus is His answer to us. God does not see us in our denominations! He sees us covered with the Blood of Christ Jesus, He sees us as those who have accepted His Son, as our Saviour! Are you going to tell me there isn’t close minded pagans, heathen, wiccans, atheists and agnostics? Being close minded can be a very universal thing! And those who believe in, and follow the Bible, which the inspired Word of God, and His will, are not being closeminded in believing it…they are following Him…as should be. YES, there are those who twist it about to their own liking… just as there are those who harm others in the wiccan and pagan world…there will always be that kind of people in the world, justified in their own minds for their actions. And just as there are different beliefs in wiccan, and pagans, there are those who interpret the Bible differently. Never is it right though, to use Christianity or the Name of Christ Jesus to do any harm.

When I speak a prayer against the spirits of this world, that are not of God, then I am not saying a prayer against any person. It is the goal, that ALL may come to Christ Jesus, and THAT should be our unified and united goal. I just wanted to answer a little bit better than I did. My prayers will be for the TRUTH, the REAL TRUTH, BE KNOWN… THE TRUTH OF CHRIST JESUS, AND THEN THROUGH HIM, MAY YOUR EYES BE OPENED AND YOUR HEART MADE ANEW… and so you might see, the REAL REASON why we want you to believe.

Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, that no one should boast.
John 5:24
"I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life.
Romans 8:1-2
There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.


Loving heavenly Father, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ I bring before you Jan. I thank You, heavenly father, that You have sovereign control over Jan. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and as a priest of God, I plead the sufficiency of the blood of Christ to meet the full penalty her sins deserve. I claim back the ground of her life that she has given to Satan by believing the enemies deception. In the name of Jesus Christ I resist all of Satan's activity to hold Jan in blindness and darkness. Exercising my authority through my union with the Lord Jesus Christ, I pull down the strongholds which the kingdom of darkness has formed against her. I smash all those plans formed against Jan's mind, will emotions, and her body. I invite the Holy Spirit of God to bring the fulness of His power to convict, to bring to repentance, and to lead Jan into faith in the Lord Jesus Christ as her savior. I ask You, heavenly father, to draw Jan Dransik to Yourself. Believing the Your Holy Spirit is leading me, I claim Jan for you in the name of Jesus Christ. In Jesus' great name I joyfully lay this prayer before You. Amen.

Prayer Warriors, I would ask that you agree with me for this prayer for Jan. I thank you for doing so~ God bless.



Posted by: GA5966

Jerry,

This person is blinded by the enemy. As if I need to tell you that. They all think because they say and it harm none at the end of all their spells, encantations that makes it all good. Witchcraft is witchcraft and the spirit of rebellion. These people are hard hearted and just want to justify their sin. they are playing with fire. My question for them is this not what their doing but the condition of their heart verses the condition of ours. In the moment they are laying on deaths door and these so called friendly demons they now control are coming to take them to hell what montra what encantation are they going to use to tell satan he can't take them. I know what I would say"I am bought by the blood of Christ, Let me go." and they would have to. However, what will a wiccan be able to claim?



Posted by: faith rising

Well, being a former Wiccan myself, I can tell you that they truly don't believe that the enemy exists. As a former Wiccan myself, I can tell you that he truly does exist! The enemy is doing a number on this woman and her family. I stand in agreement with all of the prayers for Jen and her family. Lord, with you nothing is impossible.



Posted by: JeriRose12

I, too, will stand for your salvation, Jan.

It's not about religion! It's about Jesus. I pray you can know Him. He is wonderful!!!

~JeriRose~



Posted by: diligent

Lord, I pray for this woman Jen. I cry out for her very soul. Father, I pray that the deceiver would no longer speak in her life, and blind her heart. I claim her soul for the kingdom of God. Lay hold of her heart Father, and I pray that she will see the truth of the Gospel that sets her free. Father, I pray that you will place true women and men of God in her path, that can minister to her about being a true christian, and how the love of Jesus pours out for the lost and the dieing, the sick and the lame, and lives that have been crushed by so much. I pray that most of all, she will meet Jesus and feel his love. Help her to understand that this is not about people and what they do or do not do, that it is about her and Jesus and none other. I pray for a divine appointment with the Lord Jesus Christ. The one who we have all met as sinners, and stepped out from the darkness into God's marvelous light. The light certainly shines for Jen as well. Jen, we love you with the love of Jesus, but most of all Jesus loves you, no matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: smb1976

God please touch Jen. Please open Jen's eyes to the truth of you and the Wiccans. I pray that you would give clear evidence to you. In Jesus name I pray. Amen. Stephanie



Posted by: hischild

But down through history gods people like jd have held the truth,
of that man who was raped and killed,
emaual, god jesus , same guy same god, hold this striaght,
christians should be straight of this, your right have they, i learned anything,
of history if anything you christians, (I myself)
if you want jesus, dont do it dont exsept him,
if you dont have this striaght, to the 7th power,
seven times worse''''if that man is found, swept clean and then 'gets entangled ,like me over & over agian the more entangled the more you , get posessed, with family destructing devices,
seven times worse for that man who is tangled (or woman)
well whats seven time seven christians, well , every time you back slide and not repent , gosh repent do love agian do it / do it dont let bush stop you, dont blame you on him,
dont blame, repent , just cause god used us once and we stumbled, get up.
ja love.
\some one in the world.
every time.
ill see youll see all those loved ones siants that we have been diconected from in heaven , one day up there marrige the givingh of will be nothing.
ONE DAY , REPENT , ALL ,
the ones we love are better lef t to , this , will see them agian,



Posted by: talena

I was delivered from witchcraft, I was a Wiccan, well on my way to being a high priestess. I was so involved it literally took months to be completely delivered.

Wicca is an occult. Wiccans do NOT see that, they prefer to be called "new agers", so as not to seem "demonic". They do not believe in Lucifer, Satan, the "devil"...they have a "horned diety" that they recognize.

It is hard to reach wiccans as many of them are very intelligent and very educated. The majority of wiccans that I know are mostly doctors, nurses, lawyers, business professionals. There are a few who are called "solitary practitioners", and most of them are younger people just testing the waters.

Wiccans consider themselves to be good people, conservationist, environmentalist,etc.
And I will be honest with you, many of them are good hearted people and probably do more for charities and helping others than most christians. BUT, as we all know that road to hell is paved with good intentions...now we know why.

YET there is another side to the religion that I did not recognize until I tried to leave it. Their "harm no one" law went down the tubes fast, because they also have a law that "preserves the craft". Which means anyone that leaves the craft with KNOWLEDGE of the craft (meaning behind the scenes knowledge) is then a threat to the craft and the "well respected" wiccans that have a reputation to keep as upstanding citizens.

Then these good hearted wiccans are only out to take care of themselves, using methods and laws like the "three fold law" to destroy the lives of the very ones that used to love.

SO...to get to my point. Wiccans have good intentions, and they have a form of "love" and that is CONDITIONAL. They will be good to you and kind to you and love you on the CONDITION that you ALWAYS meet the needs of the craft.

God is not like that, his love is UNCONDITIONAL. I learned that myself. There is always FORGIVENESS when you are a christian. AND that my friends, is the biggest difference, that is why God is good. You can always find forgiveness with Him. He is the refuge that you can run to when others beat you down and the devil comes to steal, kill, and destroy.

That is all I feel like saying right now...

God bless!
Talena



Posted by: rswarts

You should pass this along to your friend:

My very dear friend,
Though someone may commit an act of violence in the name of our Heavenly Father, it does is not justified if the act itself is against the will of our Father in heaven. Someone may go out on the street and kill a homosexual in the name of Christ, but Christ weeps for the victim and for the attacker, for that is not His will.

These people who commit horrible acts of violence in the name of Christ do not stand for the whole Church. The Catholic Church specifically teaches to hate the sin and embrace the sinner. We do not close our doors to anyone who chooses to return to the Holy Mother Church and though there are many who act violently in the name of God, that doesn't mean they represent the true people of God.

You will be in my prayers.

-Robert


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Originally Posted by JG
I received this email tonight what do you think




Posted by: Christian mom

Father I also stand in agreement with the prayers for Jen and those who feel like she does. Remove the blindfolds from her eyes, Lord God, that she may see Truth! Remove the lies of the enemy from her heart and stone by stone, I pray that You take down the wall that has been built up around her heart! Open her eyes that she may see, her ears that she may hear, and her heart, that she may feel and know what Mighty things you have in store for her! Let her know that You alone are God! Life with You LOrd is complete, lacking nothing.


I claim it in Jesus Holy name, that she will come to know that You are the great "I AM",and humble herself before You!

Amen and amen!



Posted by: angelofthelord

I have a few friends who are wiccans and we get into many heated arguements over their cult and Christianity. But as the bible teaches us at the end "Every knee shall bend....." And that means all wiccans also.

Another good point to tell them is what if they are wrong and their is a GOD and Jesus was the Savior of the world. Where do they want to spend eternity? In hell with the devil or do they wish to spend eternity with God in heaven.

I pray daily for my wiccan friends and have seen some change in their beliefs. I even have been able to get one to attend services with my family on Sunday... Maybe one day all wiccans will praise God...