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Is it even our fault when we sin?

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Posted by: Frederik

Every human has the sinful nature because of the original sin.
Paul also said he does the things which he hates.
Does this mean it's not our fault when we sin cause we have no other choice? If we were free from our sinful nature then we could make different decissions and would not be influenced by our sinful nature.


Posted by: ANOINTED WARRIOR

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Originally Posted by Frederik
Every human has the sinful nature because of the original sin.
Paul also said he does the things which he hates.
Does this mean it's not our fault when we sin cause we have no other choice? If we were free from our sinful nature then we could make different decissions and would not be influenced by our sinful nature.
Just ask yourself these questions instead.

1. Have I asked Jesus to come into my heart?

2. By recieveing Jesus into my heart do I not know he has seperated the real me (My spirit) from the sinful flesh man along with the soul?

3. I must then now know that my soul is where I make the decision to yield to the new real me (the spirit) or yield to the old me the flesh. So then it only makes sense that since the older man the flesh man is stronger and has been fed a lot more than my new born-again spirit which now needs to be fed my soul will yield to the one who is stronger who has been fed the most. And my soul will then take on the character of the one it is yielding to, be it the real born again me my spirit or the old man flesh.

4. I must now begin to allow my spirit to grow as never before as to let my soul which stands in the middle of the flesh and my spirit longing which one to follow or yield to. If I build up my spirit man with the word of God and allow my spirit to soak in the presence of God and begin to see with clarity from where the real me is in the spirit since there is no sin there I will begin to grow and get stronger in the Lord and my soul will then begin to yield more often to my spirit rather than the old flesh man where there is chaos and where the old man is still in need of redemption from sin.

5. I now know there is clarity in the new me my born again spirit. For in my spirit the blood of Jesus has been applied and there is a master and Lordship in my spirit from the Holy Spirit dwelling there along with the word of God I have allowed to pass through the minds process of thinking to then let it be rooted deep within my spirit man, where it will help me grow into full maturity. Where as in my flesh if yielded to there will only be chaos and a faulty perspective from its viewpoint for in the flesh man there is still need of redemption free from sin and there is no order for there is no Lordship of the true king reigning over and in my flesh like the Holy Spirit is within the real me my spirit.

John 3:6
Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.

John 4:24
God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.

John 6:63
The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life.

Romans 8:2
because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death.

Romans 8:5
Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires.

Romans 8:6
The mind of sinful man [ Or mind set on the flesh] is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace;

Romans 8:13
For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live,

Romans 8:16
The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children


Posted by: Frederik

In was speaking about non-christians.
Can they even do anything else than sinning?
If they cannot not sin then is this even their fault?


Posted by: ANOINTED WARRIOR

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederik
In was speaking about non-christians.
Can they even do anything else than sinning?
If they cannot not sin then is this even their fault?

Nope there master is self and sin for there spirit has not yet been seperated from there body to be made born-again. This is why there is so much gloom and darkness in a sinners life for there spirit is still connected with the fallen man full of sin. So until they are born-again ONLY then will they be able to say no to sin. For it is your spirit man alone you can say no to sin where the Holy Spirit will give you strength to stand and say NO as you are grounded in the word of God. So until then all they know is how to sin just as I did when I was lost and going my own ways.


Posted by: lynnie778

Great teaching and I am grateful for it +

IF we abide in HIM we will bear much fruit...Intimacy with Christ.....brings us into the presence of ALMIGHTY GOD who is SINLESS....the power of sin is in the law....so as we yield, pray and stay in HIS presence....we get the spiritual power to resist sin.....Hallelujah !
May we all spend as much time with HIM as we do with all the worldly things we do.....He is worthy and we are needy +
Lynnie778


Please stay in faith with me for this miracle + I heard the voice of my Father to STAND and WAIT and SEE the salvation of the Lord +
A changed heart and mind and restoration......His sheep hear His voice +
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Kevin loves Jesus...is a clinical psychologist filled with the Holy Spirit.....we were sweethearts....until he found out about my legal case of lies.....
Please pray God speaks to him and encouages him to trust the Lord and call Lynn to reconcile + I really miss him and I know Jesus is Lord of all...but I had a Jesus with skin on and now satan stole him.....Help Lord + Make the enemy give him back....
James 5:16 +
I am praying for a Christmas Miracle of LOVE +
Hallelujah +

http://users.rcn.com/kyp/Malcom.html


Posted by: Frederik

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Originally Posted by ANOINTED WARRIOR
Nope there master is self and sin for there spirit has not yet been seperated from there body to be made born-again. This is why there is so much gloom and darkness in a sinners life for there spirit is still connected with the fallen man full of sin. So until they are born-again ONLY then will they be able to say no to sin. For it is your spirit man alone you can say no to sin where the Holy Spirit will give you strength to stand and say NO as you are grounded in the word of God. So until then all they know is how to sin just as I did when I was lost and going my own ways.


If they cannot not sin then why are unbelievers judged and sent to hell when they did not have a chance of not sinning?