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Posted by: Illuminate

Many Blessings to all,

As some of you know, I have been a born again Christian for about 8 months now and I feel very blessed in being able to have the peace that I had been seeking for about a year ago, thanks to our Lord. In addition, thanks to many prayer warriors in this awesome website for praying on my behalf. Furthermore, I want to be committed to follow the Ten Commandments, therefore, I know, I have inquired about this subject before but I can't help in asking once again. Yes, I and many others worship God everyday, thank you Jesus but I want to be able to know and keep the SABBATH DAY HOLY. I have read bible versus, seen the bible on DVD and gone to meetings and I just feel it in my heart that the Sabbath day is Saturday. Please do not be offended anyone but I am just expressing what I have in my heart. I have information and would like it if anyone has anything to say about it. I am here to learn and not to offend anyone. Let me know what you think. First of all if you can go to please do. There is information in there about keeping the Sabbath Day Holy under meeting topic of "History's greatest Hoax's." Let me know....

God bless,
Illuminate


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Posted by: Sulten

Thought I'd pass one of Jerry's lessons on about this. I also hold to these beliefs.

Why worship on Sunday
instead of Saturday?
By Jerry Gaffney
The word of God said in the Old Testament:
"Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. Six day you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you" (Exodus 20:8-10,).

It was our custom to come together on the Sabbath, which was Saturday, cease work, and worship God.

Jesus went to the synagogue on Saturday to teach (Matt. 12:9, John 18:20) as did the apostle Paul (Acts 17:2; 18:4; ). So, if in the Old Testament we are commanded to keep the Sabbath and in the New Testament we see Jews, Jesus, and the apostles doing the same thing, then why do we worship on Sunday?

In creation God rested on the seventh day. But, since God is all powerful, He doesn’t get tired. He doesn’t need to take a break and rest. So, why did does it say that He rested? The reason is simple: Mark 2:27 says, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath." In other words, God established the Sabbath as a rest for His people, not because He needed a break, but because we are mortal and need a time of rest, of focus on God. In this, our spirits and bodies are both renewed.



There is Evidence in the Bible of the Change this can be Seen in the NT


Within the New Testament is ample evidence that the seventh day Sabbath is no longer a requirement.
The entire section of Rom. 14:1-12 is worth careful study. Nevertheless, the instructions here are that individuals must be convinced in their own minds about which day they observe for the Lord. If the seventh day Sabbath were a requirement, then the choice would not be mans’, but God’s.
Notice the sequence mentioned. A festival is yearly event. A new moon is monthly event. A Sabbath is weekly event. The word sayd do not let anyone judge in regard to this. The reality of the Sabbath is Jesus. Jesus is our Sabbath.
The first day of the week is Sunday and this is the day the people gathered. This verse can easily be seen as the church meeting on Sunday. It has two important church functions within it: breaking bread which was communion and preaching. Luke used the Roman system: midnight to midnight for defining a day. This is a subtle point that shows the Jewish Sabbath system was not the one utilized by Luke.
Notice here that Paul is asking the churches to meet on the Sunday of each week and put money aside. It would seem that this is tithing. So, the instructed time for the church to meet is Sunday. The New Bible Dictionary says regarding the term, ‘The Lord’s Day’ in Revelation 1:10: " This is the first extant occurrence in Christian literature of heµ kyriakeµ heµmera. The adjectival construction suggests that it was a formal designation of the church’s worship day. As such it certainly appears early in the 2nd century (Ignatius, Epistle to the Magnesians, 1. 67).
In many churches today, the term "The Lord’s Day" is used to designate Sunday, the same as it was in the second century.

I hope this is evidence enough to show you that the Bible does not require that we worship on Saturday. If anything, we have the freedom (Rom. 14:1-12) to worship on the day that we believe we should. And, we no one should judge us in regard to the day we keep. We are free in Christ, not under law (Rom. 16:14).





As the word says "let no man judge you" if you want to Worship on Saturday, Praise the Lord but if you want to Worship on Sunday Praise the Lord. That is between you and the Lord.


Posted by: Illuminate

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulten
Thought I'd pass one of Jerry's lessons on about this. I also hold to these beliefs.

Why worship on Sunday
instead of Saturday?
By Jerry Gaffney
The word of God said in the Old Testament:
"Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. Six day you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you" (Exodus 20:8-10,).

It was our custom to come together on the Sabbath, which was Saturday, cease work, and worship God.

Jesus went to the synagogue on Saturday to teach (Matt. 12:9, John 18:20) as did the apostle Paul (Acts 17:2; 18:4; ). So, if in the Old Testament we are commanded to keep the Sabbath and in the New Testament we see Jews, Jesus, and the apostles doing the same thing, then why do we worship on Sunday?

In creation God rested on the seventh day. But, since God is all powerful, He doesn’t get tired. He doesn’t need to take a break and rest. So, why did does it say that He rested? The reason is simple: Mark 2:27 says, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath." In other words, God established the Sabbath as a rest for His people, not because He needed a break, but because we are mortal and need a time of rest, of focus on God. In this, our spirits and bodies are both renewed.



There is Evidence in the Bible of the Change this can be Seen in the NT


Within the New Testament is ample evidence that the seventh day Sabbath is no longer a requirement.
  • Rom. 14:5-6, "One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God."

The entire section of Rom. 14:1-12 is worth careful study. Nevertheless, the instructions here are that individuals must be convinced in their own minds about which day they observe for the Lord. If the seventh day Sabbath were a requirement, then the choice would not be mans’, but God’s.
  • Col. 2:16-17, "Therefore let no one act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day— 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ."

Notice the sequence mentioned. A festival is yearly event. A new moon is monthly event. A Sabbath is weekly event. The word sayd do not let anyone judge in regard to this. The reality of the Sabbath is Jesus. Jesus is our Sabbath.
  • Acts 20:7, "And on the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul began talking to them, intending to depart the next day, and he prolonged his message until midnight."

The first day of the week is Sunday and this is the day the people gathered. This verse can easily be seen as the church meeting on Sunday. It has two important church functions within it: breaking bread which was communion and preaching. Luke used the Roman system: midnight to midnight for defining a day. This is a subtle point that shows the Jewish Sabbath system was not the one utilized by Luke.
  • 1 Cor. 16:1-2, "Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I directed the churches of Galatia, so do you also. 2 On the first day of every week let each one of you put aside and save, as he may prosper, that no collections be made when I come."

Notice here that Paul is asking the churches to meet on the Sunday of each week and put money aside. It would seem that this is tithing. So, the instructed time for the church to meet is Sunday.
  • Rev. 1:10-11, "I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and I heard behind me a loud voice like the sound of a trumpet, 11saying, "Write in a book what you see, and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to Laodicea."
The New Bible Dictionary says regarding the term, ‘The Lord’s Day’ in Revelation 1:10: " This is the first extant occurrence in Christian literature of heµ kyriakeµ heµmera. The adjectival construction suggests that it was a formal designation of the church’s worship day. As such it certainly appears early in the 2nd century (Ignatius, Epistle to the Magnesians, 1. 67).
In many churches today, the term "The Lord’s Day" is used to designate Sunday, the same as it was in the second century.

I hope this is evidence enough to show you that the Bible does not require that we worship on Saturday. If anything, we have the freedom (Rom. 14:1-12) to worship on the day that we believe we should. And, we no one should judge us in regard to the day we keep. We are free in Christ, not under law (Rom. 16:14).





As the word says "let no man judge you" if you want to Worship on Saturday, Praise the Lord but if you want to Worship on Sunday Praise the Lord. That is between you and the Lord.


Thank you for your prompt response. I greatly appreciate the scriptures and every information given. I personally believe that it doesn't matter what day we worship the Lord just so that we worship Him...But, we should not break the ten commandments because God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. God doesn't change and the commandments should remain as well. I can't get it out of my head when I read one of the ten commandments where it states," Remember keep the Sabbath Day Holy." The word that stands out the most from here is to remember. I sincerely feel that many people in the world take the ten commandments for granted, particularly the sabbath day. Once again, this isn't to offend anyone but I am just trying to understand many things as I grow into a mature christian.

Many many thanks sulten....

God bless U,

Illuminate

PS:
I keep pondering on how many people work all week and then comes Saturday and it feels like resting time. Many things to think about, but nevertheless, my heart is to follow God's word and so I will do my very best to be faithful to His Word...In Jesus name :-)


Posted by: JG

I find it very interesting that the Lord Repeated only nine of the Ten Commandments in the New Testament. The only one He did not repeat is the Sabbath


The Ten Commandments
in the New Testament

     All of The Ten Commandments can be found in the New Testament in both the Gospels and in the writings of Paul. Except keep the sabbath. The charts below compares the Law of God in the Old and New Testaments. Before comparing these charts, let's compare Paul and Jesus. Below we have reproduced Romans 13:9-10 and Matthew 19:18-19.

Jesus

  1. Matthew 19:16-19 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
  2. 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
  3. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
  4. 19 Honour thy father and [thy] mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Paul

  1. Romans 13:8-10 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
  2. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if [there be] any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
  3. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love [is] the fulfilling of the law.

 

   Notice that Romans 13:9-10 is almost an exact quote of Jesus' words spoken 30 years earlier.

The Law Of God
Old Testament

The Law Of God
New Testament

Deuteronomy 5:6-21 I [am] the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

ONE: Thou shalt have none other gods before me.

ONE: Matthew 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written,

 Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

TWO: Thou shalt not make thee [any] graven image, or any likeness of any thing that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the waters beneath the earth:

Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,

And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

TWO: 1 John 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. 

Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

THREE: Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold [him] guiltless that taketh his name in vain. THREE: 1 Timothy 6:1 ... that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.
FOUR:  Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.

Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work:

But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ***, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.

And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.

FOUR: Mark 2:27-28 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: 28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Unlike all the other commandments this is the only one that does not have a command to observe. But in contrast Paul said.

Col. 2:16-17, "Therefore let no one act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day— 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ."

Notice the sequence mentioned.
A festival is yearly event.
A new moon is monthly event.
A Sabbath is weekly event.
The word said do not let anyone judge in regard to this. The reality of the Sabbath is Jesus. Jesus is our Sabbath.

Rom. 14:5-6, "One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God."
FIVE: Honor thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee FIVE: Matthew 19:19 Honor thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

Ephesians 6:1-3 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

SIX: Thou shalt not kill. SIX: Romans 13:9 Thou shalt not kill
SEVEN: Neither shalt thou commit adultery. SEVEN: Romans 13:9 ... Thou shalt not commit adultery.
EIGHT: Neither shalt thou steal. EIGHT: Romans 13:9 ... Thou shalt not steal.
NINE: Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour. NINE: Romans 13:9 ... Thou shalt not bear false witness.
TEN:   Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbor's wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbor's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ***, or any [thing] that [is] thy neighbor's. 

These words the LORD spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me.

TEN:  Romans 13:9 ... Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

 

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.



Posted by: Illuminate

Good Glorious Day Jerry~

Thank you for your time and attention in responding to my inquiry. I appreciate all the information given and I will definitely look over it more then once. Please correct me if I am wrong. So far, in my perspective my understanding is that when the Old Commandments were created, Jesus emphasized on all ten of them and now in the New Commandments, and because of how difficult is what back when with corruption and all, He decided to put more emphasizing on the rest of the commandments because, "remember Keep the Sabbath Holy" was important and still is but as long as you worship Him either Saturday or Sunday, it is okay and it is between us and the Lord. Correct? See, I agree with all of this but I just need clarification as to keeping all Ten Commandments because once again, God is the same today, yesterday and tomorrow. However, I understand what your trying to tell me. And I thank you for helping me, especially, when looking for scriptures.

God bless U for this site,

Illuminate