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did you like sin before you became a christian?

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Posted by: Frederik

Somehow there have always been sins which made me feel dirty and filthy, while others did not feel filthy at all doing these sins. Why is that?
When a person becomes a christian does their attitude to sin automatically change and sins which were well liked before are no longer well liked?
I mean it's much easier to try to not to do sins which already made you feel bad before you became a christian. But those sins which actually do not make you feel bad are harder to stop, aren't they?


Posted by: Christian Commando

I don't know why some sins as an unsaved are enjoyed while others are not. But I do know that after getting saved and reborn, most people will start feeling the Holy Spirit tug at them when going back to sins they'd enjoyed before recieving Salvation.

This may not happen with every sin or every person, but it depends upon how much they are allowing the Holy Spirit to fill them. Examples, drinking, smoking, etc.

Yes Frederik, they are hard to stop if enjoyed them before, thats what is called the work of our choice and relying upon God's strength to help us die to the flesh and living more in the Spirit.

God Bless!!


Posted by: Remnant7

Everyone has sin they deal with; pride, lust, greed, etc. The Holy Spirit will convict us of these things as we grow in intimacy with Him. There are also sins particular to individuals, "He who knows to do right and doesn't, to him it is sin". If you have knowledge of sin and continue, you're accountable, whether or not you enjoy it. Scripture says there is pleasure in sin for a season, but ultimately, if you don't get the victory over it, it will ensnare you. Romans chapter one also talks specifically about homosexuality and beastiality. That those who participate do so because GOD causes them to burn in their lust.


Posted by: MamaCat

If sin wasn't fun, we wouldn't be having such a struggle overcoming it!!!

Fortunately for Christians, Jesus takes most of that sin fun from us,

and instead of enjoyment,

we feel like we've just rolled around in a dung pit!!

There's a visual for ya!



Posted by: Christian Commando

Thank you both. Very good pointed responces . God bless!!


Posted by: Remnant7

The visual is gross, but true; therefore, sin is gross. :-)


Posted by: Frederik

I don't understand one thing.
Let's say a christian is addicted to alcohol.
He tries to resists but he cannot.Then he drinks the alcohol and will also feel better, at least temporarily cause he gave his body what he wanted.
If he alcohol made him feel better temporarily then how is he supposed to feel bad for doing it? I mean isn't this paradoxical? How is he supposed to feel sorry and to repent when the alcohol made him feel better?
Of course this is a vicious circle and he'll always want to drink alcohol again but I simply ask myself how shall you be able to truly repent when it actually made you feel better? Isn't it hypocritical when you ask God to forgive you but actually you got exactly what you wanted in this case the alcohol?


Posted by: MamaCat

You're confusing feeling better IN THE FLESH with feeling good IN THE SPIRIT.

Alcohol is a temporary escape that feels good to the flesh, this includes the mind/soul/emotions. Of course, it is toxic and poison and your flesh will feel really BAD if too much is taken!

Sin may be enjoyable for your flesh, but if the Holy Spirit is alive and well and working in you, you'll feel bad, you'll feel CONVICTION from God, when you sin.

Even the unsaved have a conscience that tells them RIGHT from WRONG. They just choose to ignore it. If ignored enough, the conscience becomes 'seared' or hardened and doesn't have any effect on the person's behavior. That is the LAST place you'd want to end up!


Posted by: Christian Commando

Frederik- MamaCat is right. It is occultic. I've known people who claim "water witching" with two wires isn't either, but have proved them wrong in the past. (They claim it has to do with our physical bodies' magnetic field and locating metals underground. False.

Second- You asked about alcohol- A- It's only temporary and B- It is a person putting alcohol as thier god in seeking this feeling rather than seeking God the Father.

God Bless!!


Posted by: Frederik

But there are sins which I've already done so often I don't even feel bad anymore how can this be?


Posted by: MamaCat

Frederik, how long have you been born again???


Posted by: Christian Commando

My dear boy- You know, sometimes, God relies upon us to make concious decisions to stop them. When we truely decide we want to, He will then add unto us the ability by the Holy Spirit to do so.

The fact you've done them so often you aren't bothered wether right or wrong about anymore shows you enjoy them and God can't help you deal with them unless you want to.

Frederik- God wants to do all things in our lives to bring us to living and thinking perfectly. but,while accepting Salvation gives God the ability to guide our lives, He won't go against our consistant selfish wants, if constantly quench the Holy Spirit's prompting and leading of us in those areas, for our own selfish wants.

God bless!!

God will at first tug at our conscience and heart when doing wrong, but if continue in that sin anyway, you finally quench the Holy Spirit from prompting or having any influence over you on that point.


Posted by: Frederik

No I do not enjoy them but I also do not feel convicted. I mean you get used to sins when you have done them for a long time.

* cat

nearly 4 years. why does this matter?


Posted by: MamaCat

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Originally Posted by Frederik
nearly 4 years. why does this matter?

So about four years ago you gave your life to Christ, right? Asked Him to be your LORD and Savior, right?

Just curious if you remembered your wedding day......


Posted by: Christian Commando

It's one of those things my friend, where you've quenched the Spirit from being able to prompt you that it's wrong. Many of God's children have something like that.

See my boy, God delivered me from smoking over 20 years ago. The problem? For all the times I've tried to do it, I have failed on my part to stay away from it. That is my failing, not God's. I haven't been able to turn over my whole part of that life to Christ yet.

That my fault and my failing. I have personally witnessed many, many a deliverance from addictive habits by God in others. But, they had the will to do it. I'm sorryfully just plain unwilling to put forth that much effort anymore. It's pretty apparent, I didn't have the full will to want to quit back in the past either. Understand?

God Bless!!


Posted by: Sulten

You really bring up some interesting topics Frederick. I'll add my bit. Alcohol affects the brain's serotonin, so when you drink you get this rush of good feelings physically, but eventually that wears off and you have to come down and you're left feeling not so good after. If you're addicted then you crave it incessantly, but it never satisfies. Jesus talked about giving us these living waters that when we drank symbolically we would never hungar or thirst. That's the problem with things of the world and the flesh. They make us slaves in the end and never really fulfill us or satisfy. Yes it seems like people are having a great time sinning and enjoying themselves. But the things of the flesh are really nothing compared to having the spirit of the Lord. I've been on both sides and having a sustained peace in my life and the spirit of the Lord is much better then a fleeting sin.


Posted by: Christian Commando

Thank you Jesus for bringing even more wonderful and helpful info here for each person that shares. Praise God. In Jesus Name- Amen!!


Posted by: Frederik

Quote:
Originally Posted by MamaCat

So about four years ago you gave your life to Christ, right? Asked Him to be your LORD and Savior, right?

Just curious if you remembered your wedding day......


No, I don't know when I did it.
I did not even know that you have to pray such a prayer.I had to learn it all so I also cannot remember when I did it, but I did it more than once cause since I could not remember when I did it I became insecure and repeated it.


Posted by: Frederik

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulten
You really bring up some interesting topics Frederick. I'll add my bit. Alcohol affects the brain's serotonin, so when you drink you get this rush of good feelings physically, but eventually that wears off and you have to come down and you're left feeling not so good after.


This is what I mean.Imagine you're addicted to drugs and you try to get rid of them and feel miserable and then you take them and first of all you feel better for a few hours.How are you supposed to ask God for forgiveness when actually you feel better? It's not hypocritical when you pray how sorry you are when actually you got what you wanted? Wouldn't it be more honest to simply admit that you really feel better at the moment but that it's still not okay to take drugs? Where is the sense of doing like you totally regret it when you're just enjoying your high?


Posted by: Christian Commando

Frederik- You pray to God to replace the temporary joy drugs produce, with the infinite overflowing joy He can give you.

Keep in mind my friend, the happiness or joy a person feels from drugs or alcohol is only superficial, in that it only effects the physical body. God's happiness and joy is spiritual, therefore effects both spirit and body.

Plus the fact, normally when the great feelings of drugs and alcohol wear off, people are normally feeling worse. The joy or happiness of God does not do this.

God Bless!!


Posted by: Frederik

That's right.


Posted by: Remnant7

May 28 Unquestion Revelation
In that day you will ask Me nothing
—John 16:23
When is "that day"? It is when the ascended Lord makes you one with the Father. "In that day" you will be one with the Father just as Jesus is, and He said, "In that day you will ask Me nothing." Until the resurrection life of Jesus is fully exhibited in you, you have questions about many things. Then after a while you find that all your questions are gone— you don’t seem to have any left to ask. You have come to the point of total reliance on the resurrection life of Jesus, which brings you into complete oneness with the purpose of God. Are you living that life now? If not, why aren’t you?

"In that day" there may be any number of things still hidden to your understanding, but they will not come between your heart and God. "In that day you will ask Me nothing"— you will not need to ask, because you will be certain that God will reveal things in accordance with His will. The faith and peace of John 14:1 has become the real attitude of your heart, and there are no more questions to be asked. If anything is a mystery to you and is coming between you and God, never look for the explanation in your mind, but look for it in your spirit, your true inner nature— that is where the problem is. Once your inner spiritual nature is willing to submit to the life of Jesus, your understanding will be perfectly clear, and you will come to the place where there is no distance between the Father and you, His child, because the Lord has made you one. "In that day you will ask Me nothing."


Posted by: Christian Commando

Incredible point Remnant. Thank you so much and God Bless!!


Posted by: Remnant7

This was my daily devotional yesterday, which was right on point.