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Term; Muslims:tribal group or religon

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Posted by: GODS Grace

Can someone enlighten me?
I don't know if the term Muslim refers to a tridal group (like Arabs) or a belief system? I would love to find out.
THANKS>>>Grace
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My daughter explained;
Muslim is a religion.
Arabs are a people group or tribe.


Posted by: Christian Commando

God's Grace- I've read and heard it refers to a religion, so named after Mohammad who supposedly started it. This is what is considered the major "religion" of Islam.

It is a religion who many have tried to defend as a nonviolent one, yet it's own doctrine speaks of killing or destroying those factions they are against, according to thier false teachings.

Just like with Christian religions having seperate divisions of beliefs within them, so too does the Muslim religion. Some more violent than others. I would share a few if could remember how to spell them now, but can't.

Suffice it to say, you will find some factions of Muslims who are much more gentle or docile to those of considerable violent thinking and actions.

Hope this helps. God Bless!!

BTW- The term- "Arabs" may refer to a "tribe" if like that term in place of a "race" of people. Yet, I don't see it that way. Why? God had His first chosen people- "Jews", a race. In which, God subdivided them into twelve Tribes. Yet, they were all "Jews".

I've always read that term- "Arab" is short for Arabian people. Clearly more Racial than Tribal in my mind anyway.

God Bless!!


Posted by: tonya

I have a question. Is it true that the people who are followers islam, say that they can declare a holy war, or jhad? what is it? And is it true that they can kill any one who refuses to adopt their beliefs in mohamad, and religious practices? This would answer a whole lot of questions for me?


Posted by: Christian Commando

Well, that is part of where the "killing in the name of thier god" comes from. the rejection of thier teachings or beliefs. That is one of the reasons the Muslim religion is so against other major religions that are advanced as much or more than them. If look at thier doctrinal beliefs, they do actually teach to commit murder in order to keep thier religion going or further it, against any who strictly oppose them.

this includes their called thru doctrinal teachings of thier false god to even commit suicidal acts to achieve the goal of quelling so called "enemies" of thier religion or teachings.

But, admittedly, not all Muslims believe in this violent way to live and advance. It is more the much stricter followers of the religion that think and operate that way.

I have a few very good friends that are Muslims and we get along great. We do exchange speaking about our beliefs and who knows, it may be God's Will to eventually reach them and show them they believe in a false god who is not God the Father and Creator of all.

God Bless!!


Posted by: Dylith

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Originally Posted by tonya
I have a question. Is it true that the people who are followers islam, say that they can declare a holy war, or jhad?

Muhammad said that the best form of Jihad (and indeed the most commo form) is internal struggle against oneself. Living a spiritual life without succumbing to sin. This is every Muslim's Jihad. That being said, if their religion is in danger of being whiped out or they are suffering great loss and persecution at the hands of an enemy then Muslims are allowed to fight a physical jihad or defensive war against their attackers. However, they are instructed to move first and to try to excape persecution before fighting, they are also told that it is better to forgive and not retaliate, and finally they are told that if the enemy wants peace and is willing to stop their persecution of Muslim peoples then the Muslims must make peace terms with them.

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And is it true that they can kill any one who refuses to adopt their beliefs in mohamad, and religious practices? This would answer a whole lot of questions for me?
No, it's not true. In fact during the early Arabic Empire, non-Arabs weren't even allowed to convert to Islam. The Islamic empire was very religiously pluralistic and Jews and Christians lived within the empire in mass numbers in peace and were allowed to practice their religion in peace. Monotheists are considered "people of the book" and have a special status within Islam and are protected from persecution (or are suppose to be and for the most part are).