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Angels hit a "wall"

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Posted by: JeriRose12

As some may know I am praying and believing for the slavation and subsequent evangelstic ministry of Bill Clinton. Well, today, when I posted a prayer for him on anointed.net, I received a vision. I was asking God why the delay and what were we not knowing to pray against? Then, I saw this vision:

There was a swarm of angels, in pure white, against the black of night. They seemed to have been flying on a mission, but they had hit a "wall." I received no more than that. I do not know what this wall is that is stopping these angels from completing their mission on behalf of Bill Clinton. I do not know what the blackness represents.

Please share anything God gives you. I believe that God uses what every joint supplies, and I can really use insight on how to pray here and what God is trying to show me.

Thanks for helping!

Lord, I still wait for an answer. If one of Your servants here can receive a word from Your Holy Spirit to enlighten me and all of us, AMEN! I pray that You will share this with someone or with me. I pray this comes quickly, as I so desire to know what "blackness" and what "wall" I am praying against. Thank You for sending this answer RIGHT ON TIME!

~JeriRose~
Finding YOU in 2005


Posted by: michellejane

Sister Jerri,
How wonderful that the Lord has blessed you with such a vision. Play a nice record for Him, one full of life and joy, modern and powerful. On reading your post the Holy Spirit reminded me of the song "right on time" from the 80's!



Recently in the Spirit the Lord has shown me the words song and snog? Somehow they're getting twisted. The black usually represents darkness and the whiteness goodness.

i'm not sure that this post will be helpful in anyway. Lord please reveal an interpretation to this dream. God bless. Jesus teach us how to pray for these Angels as they go in to do Your Will.


Posted by: PMB

I encourage you to study... of withstood ....Daniel 10:13 kingdom of Persia withstood me and buffet- 2 Cor 12:7 an angel of Satan, to buffet me.....
 Their are many reasons for unanswered prayer. Some of those reason include: Cherished sin, Unforgiveness , Double-mindedness, Not asking, Asking for a selfish reason , FEAR, WORK., UNFOCUSED PRAYER. , GIVING UP TOO SOON.


Posted by: JeriRose12

My friend said she had the word "witchcraft" or "psychic" come to her when I shared the vision with her. I found this meaning for "withstood" in the BibleGateway.com dictionary:

Elymas
magician or sorcerer, the Arabic name of the Jew Bar-jesus, who withstood Paul and Barnabas in Cyprus. He was miraculously struck with blindness (Acts 13:11).

There was no referance to the "withstood" of Daniel 10:13. I can find no BibleGateway.com concordances (?). Seems strange. I will have to look in the old Strong's Concordance and forget technology.

There were no dictionary meanings for "buffet." Wierd. I am thinking the buffeting is against Bill Clinton -- he is being hindered, somehow, from coming to the point of repentance.

Perhaps, fasting and praying is in order. The Matthew Henry comentary pointed out that Daniel got his breakthrough on the last day of his fast.

~JeriRose~
Finding HIM in 2005


Posted by: JeriRose12

Well, "withstood" comes from the Hebrew word amad (some symbols lacking), pronounced aw-mad': a prim. root; to stand, in various relations (lit. or fig., intrans. and trans.):--abide (behind), appoint, arise, cease, confirm, continue, be employed, endure, establish, leave, make, ordain, be [over], place (be) present (self), raise up, remain, repair, + serve, set (forth, over, -tle, up), (make to, make to be at a, with-) stand (by, fast, firm, still, up), (be at a) stay (up), tarry.

(Don't know why some words are bold)

Buffet is kol-af-id-zo; from a der. of the base of 2849; to rap with the fist:--buffet. (Sounds like puches to me!)

2849? kol-ad'-zo; from (another Greek word, pronounced dwarf ); prop. to curtail , i.e. (fig.) to chastise
(or reserve for infliction), -- punish.

So are you saying I am being withstood or the angels are? I am being buffeted or the angels are? Or both?

I know I am being buffeted by attacks and distractions. So many things coming at me just now, and I get distracted from praying for Bill Clinton for a day or two.

I see this vision again. It is a wall, somehwere in the heavenlies it seems, that the angels can not break through. Is this because I have not prayed as faithfully as I should? Or is there some particular spirit or stronghold the Lord is trying to bring to my attention to pray against? Or -- are there not enough people praying? Perhaps it is the prayerlessness in the church that is causing the inability of the angels to break through. Maybe the blindness (darkness) on the eyes of Christians (saying they hate this man, rather than wanting to pray for him) is stopping the angels.

~JeriRose~
Finding HIM in 2005

What about this song, michellejane? I don't know the song "Right On Time." Or do I? There is a radio station that plays 80's Christian music. Is it a rock song? It kind of sounds like something I may have heard. Who sings it? I wonder if I can still get that station. I wiped the hard drive clean, and I no longer have that in my favorites....


Posted by: Remnant7

e-Sword has Strongs Concordance in it. You might want to download it if you want to use it, rather than pulling out the book.

Lauree


Posted by: JeriRose12

(I used to have e-sword, but I am not sure how to download it. I thought it was a program you bought on a disk and loaded that way.)

Anyway, when meditating/praying on this earlier, I heard the word "battering ram," and that just returned to me, as I was coming over to open this thread. I was feeling like the angels were coming against this wall with a battering ram. But what IS the battering ram (the angels are using)? It's like I could see the angles with this big, old battering ram, like was used in times past to bash open a the door when storming a castle. Hmmm..... But I need to think with my SPIRITUAL mind. I am just waiting on God for more. As I opened the thread, I could see the battering ram in the angles hands, and they were coming at the door....? It is so black, it's hard to see the door, if it is there. But they are thrusting the battering ram against this wall (is there a door in it?), at any rate. Hmmm.... I started out saying "wall," then switched to "door." So, is that the further part of the revelation? There is a wall blocking the angels activities, but there is DOOR through this wall? There is an entrance through this wall? Hmmm.... OK, waiting on God for more/the rest.... One more detail: The battering ram looks like it's made of wood (which seems out of place in angels hands), and it has a rounded end.

Perhaps, it was the prayers prayed since I shared this vision that put the battering ram in the angels hands? I didn't see it in the original vision, so I am thinking our prayers made a difference, gave the angels something to fight with.... And, perhaps, I can see the door now, because some light has come into this situation, perhaps it's not as black as it was....

~JeriRose~
Finding HIM in 2005


Posted by: JeriRose12

A friend I shared this with asked me if the door had a knob. But it's not that kind of door; it's more like a gate. It's like the heavy gates Samson would have carried away off that city. I get the sense (or seem to see in the vision) it locks on the inside. It can not be unlocked from outside, thus the battering ram.

My human reasoning says Bill Clinton has locked his heart shut against the influence of the Lord.... or possibly against hurt from self-righteous Christians. But what does the Holy Spirit tell me? I am waiting on God for the REAL meaning that He will explain to me. Perhaps it represents the secrets he is keeping. He KNOWS things (I felt God told me this before) that he is not willing to be forthcoming about -- things about the Iraq and Al Quida situation and so on, things that happened during his administration. I just read an article that says he knew who four of the terrorists were but that there was a law at the time (passed by one of his appointees) that kept him from going after them.

~JeriRose~
Finding HIM in 2005


Posted by: JeriRose12

I found this prophecy. Very interesting in light of this vision:

' It will be my judgment. And I shall do it in the midst of great revival. You'll know how to pray and you'll know how to pray for men that are resisting that are in leadership, that are not willing to go in this way, and it's only because they have been shrouded with a darkness and assigned demonic pressures. Know that I'm going to break it off of them and some of them that are resisters will be like the Apostle Paul. Who resisted me, and I turned him into a great Apostle.

Get ready you will see miraculous workings amongst my leaders that will turn to me and I will visit them. I will come in blinding lights. I will reveal the revelation of my son. I will open up the scripture and cause them to fall in love with me. I will touch them in the night season. I will touch them in the hip of their thigh, and give them a lip and change their name, and their nature. And they shall no longer be Jacobs and deceivers, but they shall become our Israel 'Says the Lord’.

~JeriRose~
Finding HIM in 2005


Posted by: JeriRose12

Further insight: The Lord just explained that the door is being held shut by demons. The demons hold the door shut, so Bill Clinton is trapped or imprisoned by them (or their lies?). I must seek God on how to pray so that the angels can break open the door with their battering ram. God said He would give me the names of the demons and how to pray against them.

So... this would be a stronghold. You see the stronghold is not the demon, the stronghold is the place the demon has taken up residence in. Hmmm.....

~JeriRose~
Finding HIM in 2005


Posted by: JeriRose12

I keep seeing this little demon holding the door shut from the inside. He has hands and feet on the door, and he's pulling backwards with all his might.... against this huge throng of angels? It's weird. Is this really from God? I keep seeing that, and I keep thinking that can't be right. Why is one so small able to hold the door shut against so many angles? The angles look big and mighty, and he looks tiny and puny, kind of scrawny..... What can it mean? Are there bigger demons standing behind him, backing him up? It's like I see bigger demons crowding behind him -- lots of them -- but he seems to be the "gateway" demon. Who is he? Why do they have this little demon out front?

Well, this lady had a vision once. She saw rows upon rows of rank and file demons, scary demons..... She knew that she was going to be shown the devil eventually. It freaked her out, because the demons were scary. Then, when they finally all parted, and she saw the devil, she was amazed. He looked like a weak, little man. There is a scripture that says we will see the devil and say, "Is this the one who caused all the trouble?" It's like all these big, warrior demons were hiding him and his insignificance..... Is this something like that? This little demon would have no real power without the bigger demons? Or is this the devil, himself, holding the door shut?

Maybe it is something VERY SMALL holding Bill Clinton back from repentance, as in if he would just give up that one thing (that one demon that got attached to that thing), ALL the demons would go out with the little one.

Anway, this is what God has shown me on the vision. And, I will just keep praying, until He gives me the instructions on how to pray to get Bill free.

Well, some say we should not call out demons by name and pray against them, because it can bring unecessary attacks into our lives. Others, say we should call out the demons by name and command them to leave, etc. And I am curious as to which is right. Or is it a case by case basis? All, I know is, God has shown me this vision for a reason, and I am just pryaing for further insight and instructions...

"Flying on a mission" I said in the first post.... Wow! These are special forces angels! Just as I am a special forces prayer warrior....

Little by little, God just keeps revealing more details....

~JeriRose~
Finding HIM in 2005


Posted by: JeriRose12

I saw the little demon go exploding back off the door -- so the angels battering ram caused him to fly back from his hold on the door. Well, beyond that, I know nothing or have been shown or told nohting else. I did not see the bigger demons any longer, so where did they go? Why did they leave BEFORE he did? I aasumed he was drawing strength from them, and that when he went they would go, but it's like they went first, because when I saw him flying backwards from the door, the bigger demons did not seem to be in the vision. Pondering what this means.... and do not know the name of him as yet or just what else I am to pray.

~JeriRose~
Finding HIM in 2005


Posted by: JeriRose12

Dear Lord, what is the meaning of all this? Curious. I have not been praying for Bill Clinton so much lately. Wonder what all this means. And what is the time of the vision? The prophet doesn't know the TIME of these things; she just sees the events in the vision. I pray, Lord, that this demon and the bigger demons is/are defeated, past tense or future tenese or RIGHT NOW. Father, bring Bill Clinton to repentance. Defeat every foe that stands against this. NO WEAPON FORMED AGAINST BILL CLINTON SHALL PROSPER. Let Your will & purpose for his life be accomplished and established. In Jesus Name, amen.


Posted by: guardianangel

Father, I stand in agreement with Jerena for Bill Clinton's salvation- actually for the salvation of his entire family. Send Your warriors Father with the word that will drench Bill's heart with Your love and compassion. Touch his soul and reap him for Your own. In Jesus glorious Name I bring him before Your throne. Amen.


Posted by: prayyior

I too stand in agreement. Lord, God break open this cold and hurting heart of Bill Clinton. In the Name of Jesus I ask. AMEN


Posted by: huggybob46

I seem to vaguely remember hearing that either Bill or Hillary consulted with psychics while he was in office. If they believe in asking mediums for guidance, then they definitely are walking in satan's territory!




Posted by: JeriRose12

That could be what the darkness is about.

I also heard Bill was in Skull & Bones, and I don't know how he regards that or how that affects him now.

Dear Lord, let the time of the vision be fufilled. Whatever darkness is fighting the Clinton's salvation, let it be driven back. We pray for a breakthrough into their hearts and lives. Let them humble themselves in repentance onto salvation.