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What if you only believe cause you're more "naive"?
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Posted by: Frederik
A few hundred years ago most people believed in God compared to today. Does this mean that living today already decreases your chances of getting saved?
Can it be that people which live today and do not believe in God cause they were taught this in school would have been saved if they had lived in a different time? 
Is faith always a gift from God or can it also be that you simply believe and it's caused by something else?
Posted by: Christian Commando
Frederik-
Only God knows the true "chances" of any person getting saved and reborn. You and I can't, for we cannot know the statistics, circumstances or have any control over anything.
Ques. 2- No- All people have a certain level of faith engrained in thier natural abilities. But, it takes a faith influenced and touched by the Holy Spirit to concieve of and be able to accept Salvation and other spiritual understandings to realize the "scope" of any given situation.
God Bless!!
Posted by: Frederik
But is all faith the same?
There are people which believe in all kinds of things like aliens or ufos. If somebody is like this an easily believes in something does this mean he also has it easier to believe in God compared to somebody who is rational?
Posted by: Christian Commando
Who are you to say those who believe in UFO's are irrational? I have also studied and did sermons, bible Studies and Classes on them. There is too much documented proof not to believe they are real.
Actually, my studies of documentations prove more, they are real, but not physical. In other words, they are real, as our physical world equipment such as radar can pick them up etc. But, they are not physical as many times fighter pilots checking them out, fired on them having no effect against them at all.
Thus, rational has nothing to do with this subject. We've covered this before my friend, in showing it will be by the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit thru which a person unsaved can understand thier being lost to God and seek Salvation.
Last question- No, not all faith is the same. Our mental or psychological faith is of the physicall ability kind, where Godly faith comes from the spiritual level and kind, only the Holy Spirit can produce on or in someone.
God Bless!!
Posted by: Frederik
Oh. But how do I know wether my faith is the real faith?
What if I don't have the real spiritual faith?
As for the ufos...
I have also read much stuff about them.
I also listened to a sermon about them once and the speaker said that if a normal person sees a green man standing in front of his bed at night then they will be deceived. But a christian has spiritual glasses on and cannot be deceived. What does this mean? Does this mean that you would get an inner witness that this green man is not an alien but something else?
I mean when I first read about these ufos I was pretty confused and didn't know how to deal with this. But according to this guy a christian could not be confused by this but I was confused.
Posted by: Christian Commando
Well, I don't know what Bible this Pastor reads from, but apparently not God's Word.
God declares, satan goes around imitating angels of light, being a wolf in sheeps clothing, walking around as a roaring lion looking to whom he can devour, plus more, to tryand decieve even God's elect- (His True children).
Besides, theres multitudes of documentations of True children of God being decieved at some level daily by satan's sly works.
I also suggest if that Pastor intends to speak on UFOs anymore from here on, he reads up more on them. The descriptions well documented are clearly not of "little green men" etc, but quite different.
God Bless!!
Posted by: Frederik
Are you saying that even a real christian can be deceived by this?
This scares me! What if I saw an ufo and then got deceived?
I mean we can talk about this and agree that ufos are demonic and everything seems okay. But what if you actually saw an ufo? Maybe it would look sooo real that you'd think: "This cannot be demonic, it looked sooo real. I cannot imagine that demons can do this."
I mean it's really strange how they do this, isn't it? How can a demon turn himself into a giant ufo and make noises and even radiate?
Imagine a christian who has never heard of this and never delt with this sees an ufo how is he supposed to react? I mean would this not totally blow him away? Or do you think he would keep cool and stick to his bible and not be impressed?
Posted by: Christian Commando
Question 1- Yes. I know of quite a few who have no idea how to think of UFOs. From only a very few good documentations, people, even some Christians, choose to believe these creatures are of another planet and bring good things to interact with us on.
Question 2- Seeing a UFO is not what decieves you, but in the not finding out more about thier activities and occupant activities of them that does.
Question 3- The way they look- Yes, of course they are real. But, because they can appear and disappear without a trace, they cannot be of this physical world, besides the speeds and manuevering they can do. It's impossible.
Special note- You should look up the writings of people like, Hypoletus, Turtilian, Ambros, Ironeus, from Early church Centuries to see what they say about the "Son's of God" who appear to us back in noah's day and what they did. (They use the references from the "Son's of God" being angels, found several times used in the Book of Job).
But, they consider the "son's of God" mentioned in Noah's day, for what they did, were demons who took human form physically, because of two reasons- 1- They lusted after women. 2- The children sired by these unions thru lustings, were originally called- Nephilium.
Nephilium comes from the root word- Nephal- which means in Hebrew- "Fallen ones", evil spirits, etc.
Last question- demons as UFOs- No. Demons do not turn into UFOs. They or thier offspring from noah's day operates them. But, UFOs are clearly not a vehicle from this physical world.
Why? One main reason- They are not at all restricted to the physical laws governing this physical world. Why? They can move too fast. 2- out speed and manuever anything else known to man. 3- They have never been effected by man made weapons used on them at all.
Question to you my friend- If christians can be decieved by satan in many other ways normally, then why not this way?
God Bless!!
Posted by: Frederik
Where can I read about what these early church people wrote about the sons of God?
I always thought that those which had sex with women were fallen angels and not demons.
Anyway, if demons do not turn into ufos then what exactly are these ufos? How are they "created"? How do they cause this illusion? Do they also make noises like real fight objects?
But one thing seems strange to me. Everybody says they cannot be real because of the way they move. Satan and his demons are not dumb. Why do they not make the ufos move in more realistic ways? Why do they make them move in ways where everybody figures out that they cannot be real?
Posted by: Christian Commando
Question 1- God thru the Biblical historical records of the national archives on the internet.
Question 2- Frederik my boy- what are fallen angels in God's Word- Translated means, evil spirits, familiar spirits, demons, satan, etc.
Question 3- You'd have to ask God about UFO as creations. I don't know. I only know the evidence of thier operation proves they are not of this world.
Question 4- Well, the problem is, the majority of earths civilized population believe UFOs are from outerspace. some other planet populated by some "extraterrestrial" race.
Thus, more people are interested in making contact, including the governments, in hopes of learning further advanced technologies that we know of here.
But, even they do not pay attention to doctrinal beliefs these "extraterrestrials" teach
as being against God, for the world- satan's way, teaches man can become a god, which these aliens teach as well.
This is why faith in God's Word, being saved and reborn to gain god's faith in Him by the Holy Spirit is so important. They will always help us to understand these deceptions, if we do our part as God declares.
God Bless!!
Posted by: Frederik
Question 1- Go thru the Biblical historical records of the national archives on the internet.
How?
But how does the armor of God help me in such a case? Imagine I walk around and then an "alien" stands before me which looks totally real and I become confused. Does the armor of God do anything for me in such a situation?
Posted by: Christian Commando
Question 1- One way to start on the path to get to the Archives, is to type in US or American Archives. Sometimes it works with "national Archives, other times, international archives. It all depends how deep you want to investigate. Type those words in and search.
When you find the one you want to try, type in UFO documentations. To get more specific military investigations, you can try "project Blue Book", "Project Twinkle", among others.
I've read documentations where God's Word used in the presence of this demonic activity, will actually stop the activity. I did not dig any further to find out if ended the activity altogether. I do know tho, they hadn't seen any more UFOs appear in thier area after that.
Also, when you see such activity or creatures, ask God in prayer to reveal what or who these creatures are and thier purpose.
God Bless!!
Posted by: Frederik
Okay.
But actually I don't really want to get into this, it would most likely confuse me.
Where can I find the stuff from Hypoletus, Turtilian, Ambros, Ironeus?
Posted by: Christian Commando
From the same sources, but under a Biblical historical- documentations, location. If ask for more specifics, type in Early Church Christian Leaders then "search" or the names I gave you.
God Bless!!
Posted by: Frederik
Okay.
But I still dont understand one thing. If these ufos are real flying objects and not just projections or illusions then how can they defy the laws of physics? And why does Satan not make them fly in more realistic ways if he knows that scientists recognize this and come to the conclusion that something is wrong with them cause they make such movements?
Posted by: Christian Commando
Thats why I say... they are real, as our equipment can pick them up clearly, but not physical, because they can go against our natural "laws of physics". Nothing else that man knows of that is of this physical world can operately completely outside of limitations of our "laws of physics", except for other demonic activity, which I've witnessed myself.
This is why I know UFOs have to be tied to demons in some way to be able to do the above.
Because the secular world will not accept anything existing in another realm other than the physical. thus, they think these craft and occupants are from other planets far away. the problem? Man has not, for all planetary research, been able to find all necessary conditions on any other planet to be able to sustain life, at least as we know it.
God Bless!!
Posted by: Frederik
It's also ridiculous to think that aliens would come here only to show up for a few seconds and then suddenly disappear again, this is ridiculous.
Or aliens travelling through the galaxy only to teach us something.
These must be really nice aliens, which really care about us when they make such efforts to look after us.
Posted by: Christian Commando
But remember, that is the mentality of satan with influence. God declares satan is the auther of confusion, yet God declares He is not a God of confusion.
God bless!!
Posted by: Frederik
This means the others are all confused and because of this they cannot realize it?
I mean when you think about evolution for example then it seems so silly to me. And I don't understand why the others don't get it and then I ask myself what if I have an error of reasoning and not the others and because of this it seems so silly to me?
Posted by: Christian Commando
You could say that for those who have studied but don't understand, but there are those who know such things are documented, but believe some things out of ignorance, being the most popular belief going around.
Put all the Christian scientists together with all thier beliefs on "creation" and they won't have all the facts. Many know alot, a real lot of info, but no one knows it all. Being falable, even Christian scientists and researchers make mistakes and revise findings as new info is come across.
God Bless!!
Posted by: Frederik
This is correct.
Is everybody who studied science and still believes in evolution still believing in it because he wants to or is it also possible that some people simply haven't been given the right answers yet? Cause if you study biology for example and only hear the one side then you'll also most likely believe it.
Posted by: Christian Commando
Your hitting pretty close to home there my boy. Fact is, it all depends upon the direction info gained is accepted from. For example-
Back in the fifth century AD, secular scientists were believing the earth was flat. And you'd fall of the edge if got too close. Yet Isaac Newton, a famous Christian Scientist from that time stood on God's Word, that the earth is round, from God declaring He sits upon the circle of the earth.
Realize tho my friend, many a false belief of creation and our future have sprung up since then in many forms. For a good part, it's as you said, because they know no different- ignorance. Those who've heard God's Truth of creation and still deny It, do it intentionally.
God bless!!
Posted by: Frederik
Those who've heard God's Truth of creation and still deny It, do it intentionally.
Really all of them? I mean maybe there are also people which would like to believe but they are lacking the answers to refute what they have learned.
I mean there are also atheistic scientists which convert after trying to disprove the bible for example.
Posted by: Christian Commando
Most of those tho, are people stuck more in the middle. Not believing fully either way unless they see enough proof from either side to lean more the one than the other. Yet, God speaks of those people as being worse than if believed completely or not at all. God would rather people be cold or hot rather than lukewarm.
God Bless!!