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Prayer worrier or warrior?

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Posted by: JeriRose12

I just received awesome revlation from the Lord. Why do I carry the burdens so much on some things I am praying for? Well, Jesus said His yoke is easy and His burden is light. So, obviously, those things I feel so heavy about are not from Him!!!

When I become a prayer worrier (as opposed to warrior), I can be sure that it is not something God wants me praying about. I am simply supposed to release the situation to Him.

There are two things I pray for continually, and I do not feel burdened or heavy regarding them: former President Clinton and present President Bush. You, see these are burdens God has truly given to me, and they feel light and I carry them easily, for they are my assingments from God. It is like the Holy Spirit carries them within my spirit.

When I begin to worry prayers, I know I am fighting in my flesh. I know that I am fighting battles that God never called me to fight. When I start getting irate and frustrated over a situation, I recognize the flesh, which begins to show me that I am taking on the burden that I was never meant to carry.

I get frustrated with God over some of what I think he has called me to pray for -- and why isn't this situation changing? Well, His yoke is easy and His burden is light, so I can conclude that thing I pray for is not something I am supposed to pray for. It is something I am simply to place at His alter and leave it there for Him to work on.

I have been prayer worrying recently, but I HAVE GOT TO LET IT GO!!! I am working on laying the burdens down! I made a list of the burdens (represented in prayer requests) that I currently carry. Clinton and Bush were not on the list.... I had another prayer that I prayed some time back that came back to mind, and I am praying it, too, and I believe it will lead to the finding of Osoma Bin Laden. I do not carry this as a heavy burden, either.

These burdens are simply distractions, things that get our focus off the areas God has really called us to pray for. Last week, I was so BEAT UP by thoughts going round and round of things I carried as burdens.... I am letting them go as best I can just now.

I am called to pray for many to be healed of cancer, and I am not carrying this as a heavy burden, and I am not praying desperately.... I just have total faith that thousands are going to be healed of cancer!

As prayer warriors, we really need to be tuned in to God's voice. We need to fight the battles HE calls us to fight. Each of us is unique and different. I am not called to pray for what the next guy is and so on. We are individuals, and God deals with us as individuals. I believe when we are praying what God has specifically called us to, we will notice that are focus in not distracted off Him. When I pray for the above needs, I feel like I am co-labroing with God. I find myself having a conversation with Him regarding these people/situations. And I find myself getting quiet to listen to what further insights He will send me, so I know how better to pray. Often, with other needs, I find myself griping and complaining at Him, as in, "Why don't you change this person?" or "Why is it taking so long?" Well, I have asked why the delay with Clinton. But I am asking in a way to gain knowledge, so as to know how to pray, not in a whining way.

The Lord is working with me to lay the burdens down. And this insight came to me, in the midst of reflecting on how to do this. I pray this ministers to you, as it did to me.

~JeriRose~
Finding YOU in 2006 (The Year Of The Double Portion!)


Posted by: Qavod

What a wonderful key to effectual prayer! Thank you for sharing this wisdom!


Posted by: Chris Logan

jerirose,
I am glad for you and praise the Lord for this revelation and when the enemy comes back and tries to entrap you again; remember this revelation!

we are not to be concerned at how God chooses to deal with other people or those we are called to pray for. Their behavior and their actions are their and his business.

He alone is God and all we are called to do is to love one another as Christ loves the church and love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, soul and mind and love our neighbor as thyself. We are to pray one for another and encourage and lift each other up. We are to help one another in our need, our weaknesses and in our strengths.

The Lord and His word are not complicated, we are the ones whom complicate it. We are not to get our eyes on man and the sin of his way for we are not their judge nor does the Lord always believe we have to have any more information than He chooses to give to us. He will give you the insight and what to pray and that is more than enough.

We are to judge ourselves accordingly to His word and that is what we should do. keep our hearts and minds focused on Him and what we need changed or different in our lives. When we do that, we are not so concerned about why this and why that in others lives for we want so badly to obey and please Him and only Him and that He alone would be glorified in our lives. We want to hear Him say, "well done thy good and faithful servant."

He does not tell us in His word to question Him or others in their lives and why they have or have not changed. That is His business and it is between them and the Lord.

I have found at times when I have done this same thing and wondered about others lives and why this and why that Lord------He has shown me that they were actually closer in their walk in the Lord than I was otherwise my eyes would not have been on them and their actions and behavior----my eyes and focus are to be on only Him. His command is to show them the love and compassion of our Christ.

He will be very straight forward and open on what and whom we are to pray for and we need not know anymore unless He chooses to reveal it to us.

We are trying to take the place of God when we worry and are concerned about others and why they haven't changed. We do not know their hearts nor the path they are walking in but He does.

Wondering why He hasn't answered some of our prayers is doubting Him and His ability to know all things and what is His perfect will is in others lives. It may be totally opposite of what we think He will or should do. His thoughts are not our thoughts and His ways are not our ways!

We need to come to a place of rest total trust in Him and know that when we bring our prayer requests to Him, He will in His own way and His own time bring about the answer the way He chooses to do.

If we are constantly wondering and worrying about His answering our and others prayers this is an entrapment of the enemy of our souls and he is accomplishing the very thing he has set out to do and that is to get our mind off of Christ and on to man and their sinful ways.

Do not put your trust in man for man will let you down but Christ will never let you down. He can be trusted to do that which is right whether we see it, feel it, know it----He is God and we are but mere flesh. In our flesh, there is no good thing, our hearts are evil and full of sin without the Lord being in our lives and in our hearts.

We cannot expect sinners to do nothing but sin for they have not been born again, delivered or resurrected in Christ Jesus.

We whom call ourselves Christians, (which I do not like that word anymore) for everybody calls themselves a Christian even if they just wear a cross around their neck. I prefer the word Christ-like, or following in the footsteps of Christ.------------------------
It is all we can do as Christ-like people to keep ourselves and our hearts pure and clean before Him without having to be concerned and worry about everyone else's hearts. I don't know about you but I have not arrived yet nor did Paul in the new testament. I have much need of cleansing in my heart, a more effective Christ-like testimony, leading others to Christ that are lost and heading to hell, laying hands on the sick and visiting those in the hospital, visiting the prisoners in jail, clothing the cold and the naked, feeding the hungry, and on and on and on. I have yet to obtain all that Christ has called and wants me to be and I truly do not know if I will ever get there for I am a sinner saved by grace. I am not perfect but forgiven and I praise the Lord everyday that He saw fit to choose me for His child.

We are in a great time of need in this world and every minute and every second counts for that one soul that we might lead to know Him. We need to focus on what the Father's will is for Jesus said He was about doing His father's will. That is what we are to do also and leave the rest to HIm. There are days I have no doubt that others may look at my life or behavior and wonder how on earth could i be a follower of Christ-----yes, Lord Jesus, have mercy on me for I am in need of prayer.

Have you studied the disciples lives and how they were and lived? They at times acted like pure heathens headed straight to hell! in fact, one even denied Christ out of fear when he was asked! They also were but mere men whom lived in a body made of flesh, flesh that could and would do evil when tempted or tried.

Christ calls us to a santified life with and through Him but without Him doing that with and within us, we are going to fall flat on our faces for it is Christ alone that deals and lives within you, me and others following in His footsteps. On Christ the solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand, all other ground is sinking sand!

It should be an honor and blessing to pray for others but I have no doubt that praying as much and often as you do for others you probably pick up some of their garbage and defilement and that is when you ask the Lord every night to cleanse you of all defilement. You will and do pick up others burdens, fears, etc, etc but the Lord will and cleanse you from all of this is you but ask Him. He revealed to me many years ago that we will pick up others defilement when we are out in the world but not of the world, you will pick up others defilement when you pray and minister to them---- and we can also have our own personal defilement we need cleansed of daily from our own sinful flesh, along with our impure thoughts, deeds or actions.

God is not finished with you yet jerirose nor none the rest of us. He will be working on all of us until we see His face in glory!

Be patient with yourself and ease the burden on yourself to be perfect without spot or blemish. We are perfected already in His eyes in our spirits but our minds and emotions need a lot more deliverance and He will do that for us in His way and His time, for His honor and His glory.

Halleujah, amen and amen!!


Posted by: JeriRose12

Here is an example of how I know it isn't God leading me to pray. I will say, "Lord, I don't get how So-and-so can do thus and such." So, it starts in the guise of a prayer. But, immediately, I am off on this long beating up of that person or persons for their faults. I find myself mulling over how someone who says they are a Chrsitian could _____ ____ __ ____(fill in the blanks). Basically, I get into judging and condemning them! And we are told NOT to judge our brothers/sisters. About twenty minutes later, feeling upset, miserable, frustrated and proud (I'm better than them; I wouldn't do that), I realize "OK, this is not doing any good. I've got to let it go." Actaully, in some siutations recently, I have been pretty much doing the fault finding and have not stopped to say "It's not doing any good." Rather, I would ask God, "How come I don't know how to pray about this to get the results I want?" As if, it depends on ME to bring about the answer.

The prayers that God puts on you, you walk in total faith He will answer, so you don't come to him in that frustration, asking why you aren't getting the answers you want. Noitce, "the answers you want." It's isn't about what WE want! It's about what HE wants! If I am concerned about a situation, but I just get to worrying in prayer, then I need to have the trust in God that when I release it to Him, He will have someone else on the job, praying for them, someone who can carry that burden correctly. And we seem to forget that The Holy Spirit is on the job! I try to be The Holy Spirit to people by my prayers -- pray as though my prayer will get thw work done. It's The Holy Spirit who works on them to repent, reform, etc.

Our entire praye life has to be Holy Spirit led and infused. If The Holy Spirit is truly praying that prayer through me, then it will happen, no question. If my flesh is praying, which I must admit it has been A LOT lately, then my prayer is like beating the air. I have been in a flow at times in the past, where I would simply seek God and His anointing, and I would simply pray, "Lord, will you please provide for Nina's needs?" I didn't spend long minutes asking why it was so hard financially, explaining that Nina was a faithful tither, acting as though God was not a good God.... I would simply pray that one line and go back to resting in His Presence.

I am much in need of getting back to those days and times. I have been posting in every thread I can find about laying my burdens down, about moving the distractions out of my life, about focusing back on God. God has a mighty call on so many of our lives, and we are so busy fighting demons and battles we were never called to fight, that we can not see the vision clearly. We are seeing all these things we are not called to see. We are looking at people in the flesh, and we can not see them as God sees them -- He sees them delivered and conquring. We get praying from the flesh, and we see them as weak and flawed and wimpy (as are we!).

A huge part of the battle is TOO MUCH FLESH, not enough Jesus. We need to be praying, continually, to be FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT. Look the frutis of the Spirit: love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, temperance, meekness. How are any of those evidennt in the way I have been praying of late? Lately, I start praying and end up frustrated. How is THAT of God? Speaking of long suffering.... I get so frustrated with people because they "can't see it!" I have no patience with them or with God. We are ALL in process, and rather than saying, "OK, in that area, I have come a step further," I start holding them to the same level I have reached. I become self righteous, jugemental and condemning (life long battles ). So, while I'm saying they shouldn't ouught of do thus and such.... I am guilty of my own sins of judging, condemning and pride....

We can't SEE for looking!!! God wants us to SEE Him, but we are seeing the people around us and pointing the accusing finger. We are seeing the situation, as in lack of finances, not seeing that God is our Provider. We are seeing our neighbors fault and not our own. That big, old plank in our own eye has blinded us!

Sorry, for preaching.... but this just keeps coming to me, as fresh rhema. I started seeking God recently, and all this junk began to surface. Someone explained that before we can birth our Samuel (why I started seeking God), we need to cry out our bitterness, pain, etc. as Hannah did. He was saying that we need to deal with all the stuff that surfaces. It comes up so that we can get rid of it! When I started seeking God about a week and a half ago, I couldn't figure out why all these irritations kept surfacing. I just wanted to seek God and SEE Him. Then, I heard this bishop on the Benny Hinn program explaining about Hannah crying out her bitterness before she could birth Samuel. In order for me to go that next level of relationship and anointing with God, I have to deal with all the bad attitudes, etc. that are surfacing. God is showing me what is down there so I can get rid of it, because it distracts me from Him.

I thank Him for these insights. Pray that I will apply them, as even a while ago I was back griping to God about someone. I certainly wasn't praying! I just wanted to find fault! Why is that SO easy? Oh, yeah. Too much flesh.

I repent of my self righteousness and all related sins. Lord, help me to truly let them go!

~JeriRose~
Finding HIM in 2006 (The Year Of The Double Portion!)


Posted by: JeriRose12

Wow! Chris! Right on! I was posting while you were posting, and we posted very similar stuff. The Holy Spirit is in this....

I have seen so much junk in the last weak and a half, and I have not been happy. I need to get rid of a lot of junk -- chaff, I guess it's called in the Bible. I thank the Lord for showing it to me, and for his faithfullness and patience. Why do I get so impatient with others? I need a huge, huge dose of long suffering!

Praying unto His glory,

~JeriRose~
Finding HIM in 2006 (The Year Of The Double Portion!)

I feel the anointing here!!!


Posted by: Chris Logan

Now, I can relate to that perfectly for the Lord is dealing with me about the very same issues! I do praise the Lord for this revelation jerirose and how exciting it is when He reveals something we need at the right place and the right time. Seeking Him always gets an answer.

As for the bitterness, I am so glad that your brought that up for that is a word for me straight from the throne of God! Thank you for the word about Hanneh crying out her bitterness to the Lord for that is the very thing I am dealing with myself.

The Lord has revealed much to me lately and that is just one of the things He has shown to me, I have bitterness and all of the ugly things that go with it!
I will pray for your breakthru jeri and i ask you to pray for mine as well.

i do understand what you are saying and where you are going for i have been there before myself. years ago, i became very self-righteous and some people could hardly stand to be around me. the Lord had to bring me down to size and it was very, very painful but not forgetful , believe me! You must deal with it before He "makes" you deal with it for it will be extremely humiliating and embarrrasing if He has to do it. I know all too well.

I pray that I am not that way anymore and I try to keep a check on my spirit for we cannot minister to the ones whom are considered outcasts if we have a superior or self-righteous attitude. In fact, the Lord will completely quit using us if we do not get free and delivered from it! He put me on a shelf for several years to show me many things that I would not have seen had I still be out ministering to others. dont' go there jerirose, believe me. take it from me knowing what will happen. Throw if off, cast it off and repent, resist it in Jesus name for it doesn not honor the LOrd.

I admire and respect your complete honesty before God and man and when you confess your faults one to another He will cleanse you from all unrighteousness and you will be healed. You have acknowledged your error or sin, taken responsibility for it, confessed it to us, now repent, resist and be cleansed in Jesus name!

I do understand also your revelation about the Lord showing you whom you should and shouldn't pray for according to the burden you are bearing and such. that is a good revelation and you needed that so much. continue in that revelation and do not let the enemy put back on you what the Lord has just shown you.

Continue in the work of the Lord and the will of the Father whom has sent Him, for His honor,for His praise and for His glory and be blessed! amen and amen!


Posted by: JeriRose12

Thank You, dear sister. It was as I typed that up that the sin became so clear to me! God is FAITHFUL! I so want to go into my next level in Him and in ministry.... but I constantly struggle with how to tell the truth in love without becoming judgemental. I will not compromise scripture, but I get over into beating that person up (not so much to them, but to myself and before God). There are a number of burdens I have been carrying lately, mostly for my family, and I have got to QUIT, QUIT, QUIT!!! The people on here, I don't know personally, and some may only post one request, but my family.... Oh, I seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee their faults! Or, if it's not their faults, I just worry about the tough siutaiton they are in.... I have not been praying effectively, I can see that. I have been flailing (or is that failing?) in prayer! How much time I have wasted! I need to get back to praying what HE called me to pray!!!

~JeriRose~
Finding YOU in 2006 (The Year Of The Double Portion!)


Posted by: prayyior

How well I understand....would this be distraction?

Lord, help us not to be distracted by the stuff in our lives. Let us focus on You and pray what you want us to pray. Keep us from running ahead of you or dropping behind....let us hear your voice and move according to you timing. Lord, fix our families, no matter what we do or try, we can't. Lord, we ask you to take our families just as they are and cleanse them and heal them and make them whole! In the name of Jesus I ask. Amen


Posted by: Chris Logan

jerirose,
i just now saw this posting you replied to last night. bless you sister for i truly never, never had any desire to wound or bring down your spirit.

may the lord meet your every need and may you be blessed by the presence of the lord in every area of your life.

be still and know he is God.


Posted by: JeriRose12

Here is what just hit me. I went back and read the prayer I prayed at the first of 2005 -- to be under an open heaven of visions, dreams, etc. Well.... all hell broke loose shortly after I prayed that. Kim Clement keeps calling 2005 the year of subtraction. I agree! So, anyway, I realized that when I refuse to let the actual stuff going on around me -- all the hell breaking lose -- stop me from seeking God, the devil gets after my thoughts. He tries to get me thinking I SHOULD be focusing on all the stuff, when I am trying to seek God inspite of it. Actually, I believe the devil is behind why we start worrying in prayer. For a while we are doing good, refusing to let all the stuff stop us from focusing on and seeking God. But we get the guilties and wonder why we aren't worrying. So, we worry in prayer, because we know we should be seeking God. The devil just put that tiny little thought there along the lines of "What about Jeff? What's going to happen to him?" And pretty soon, he tries (he can't unless I let him) to torment my thoughts until I am so far off seeking God, I am just mad and frustrated over my family or some situation going on.

Yes, we need to lay our families down. BIG TIME!!! I am not called to pray for them in the way I am Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, healing from cancer and the smoking out of Osoma Bin Laden. I wonder if we are just too close to our families, so God will call someone else to lift them up. We worry so over our families and get so irritated with them.... I feel so often like I just have to leave them in God's hands, at God's alter, etc. A new situation just arose in the family, and I have to keep my thoughts off it or I will get to being a praye worrier again. I also get into that "How could they do that?" mode -- the judging thing.

~JeriRose~
Finding YOU in 2006 (The Year Of The Double Portion!)


Posted by: JeriRose12

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Originally Posted by Chris Logan
jerirose,
i just now saw this posting you replied to last night. bless you sister for i truly never, never had any desire to wound or bring down your spirit.

may the lord meet your every need and may you be blessed by the presence of the lord in every area of your life.

be still and know he is God.


I was not offended by anything you said. It's true. I was thankful to God for showing this to me as I typed my post about the self-righteousness I see in myself. I do not want to be like this, and I have battled it for years. There is a good kind of coming down -- down on your knees in Godly sorrow and repentance.

~JeriRose~
Finding HIM in 2006 (The Year Of The Double Portion!)


Posted by: Chris Logan

Me too sister! I have some dire need of getting on my face before the Lord and crying out to Him to deliver, heal and change me before I self destruct!

amen and amen to what you said!