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Pictures of the plane crashing into the WTC

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Posted by: Jerry

These are pictures of the plane crashing into the world trade center.
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Posted by: Frederik

I don't really understand why you're so keen on seeing these pics over and over again. I find it tasteless to show it over and over again.
I have seen the video of the plane crashing into the WTC at least 50 times on TV, why can't the people get enough of it ?That's like taking pics of a corpse in order to mourn over it.
I mean do you need to see this in order to become sad ? I wouldn't watch something which makes me sad over and over again, that's masochistic. I think many people find delectation in making themselves suffer by watching these pics.


Posted by: talena

I stand with Frederik on this. Pictures like this are hard for everyone, especially family members of the victims. It is like seeing these people get killed over and over again. I don't like these pictures. I prefer the photos of restoration.


Where is the photo of the firemen raising the flag? Can we not get that on here instead?

God I can't help but to cry today....PLEASE be with the families of the 911 victims. Touch their hearts God as they once again have to deal with facing this issue again today. Grief is hard enough without the added burden of seeing a loved ones death rehashed via television or newspapers. Father I pray peace over those families and over this nation today. I pray peace over the world. May each and every individual take time today to stop and reflect and thank YOU for each blessing that You have bestowed on us. I love You God. Father, please protect our families today. I pray a hedge of protection around our country and around our soldiers. Please put angels up everywhere, send angels to encamp around every individual today to guard and protect them. God I thank You that You are shielding America from another attack like 911. Please pour out special blessings today as this nation gathers to remember and to mourn. For every prayer that goes up today, Lord please work on the heart of the one that is praying. Be in the midst of our grief Father. Father I pray standing in the gap that You take this time to deal with every lost individual who opens their heart to you in sorrow. Draw them close to You, let them feel Your peace and know Your comfort. Just bear with us all God as we each grieve in our own way today. Help us to remember to look UP, for that is where our help really comes from. I worship You Lord. My heart goes out to everyone today, it is heavy for I know MANY are hurting. I wish I could be there for everyone that needs You today Lord, please send someone... make sure there is someone ministering to each and every hurting and lost soul today. In JESUS' name I pray...AMEN!!!!


Posted by: JG

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Originally Posted by talena
I stand with Frederik on this. Pictures like this are hard for everyone, especially family members of the victims. It is like seeing these people get killed over and over again. I don't like these pictures. I prefer the photos of restoration.


Even though the posting date says may 2002 they were posted in 2001. Now I left them up there as a reminder why we are here. Least we try and sugar coat the work of the enemy.

REMEMBER PEOPLE we are at war. These pictures show the work of satan real close. We should remind ourselfes why we are here.


EZE 22:30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none. 22:31 Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed upon their heads, saith the Lord GOD.

One of the purposes of this board is to raise up an army of prayer warriors who will stand.

If we do not, God's wrath is letting us have our own way.
That means those who want to fly into buildings will because they think they are right.

Or we can have a team so close to God that he will reveal to His prophets who wants to kill steal and destroy so they can not.

It is no accident when someone get caught.
The world says we were lucky.
We know it was God a work uncovering the works of darkness.


Posted by: Frederik

The people in the planes which crashed also prayed to God and asked him for help and what happened ? Nothing.
What is prayer good for when nothing happens ?
Do you really think God will keep us from new terrorist attacks ?
Why didn't he prevent the attack on the WTC in the first place ?
I feel like all these prayers for peace and harmony are all wasted I mean they don't change anything.
I can pray for peace in Israel 10000000 times and it doesn't change anything.Often I pray but I don't believe that it changes anything.


Posted by: JG

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederik
The people in the planes which crashed also prayed to God and asked him for help and what happened ? Nothing.
What is prayer good for when nothing happens ?
Do you really think God will keep us from new terrorist attacks ?
Why didn't he prevent the attack on the WTC in the first place ?
I feel like all these prayers for peace and harmony are all wasted I mean they don't change anything.
I can pray for peace in Israel 10000000 times and it doesn't change anything.Often I pray but I don't believe that it changes anything.



Maybe God was waiting for your prayers.
Have you ever thought of your responsibility in this.
He gave us dominion.
So maybe he is waiting for Frederik.

Did not he say He was looking for someone to pray.
Where were the prayers before the plan was put into action.

How do you know the people prayed.
There were no conversations recorded.
So we are guessing. HMMMMM
The we blame God. HMMMMM


Posted by: Frederik

Of course !
People in the plane called family members and they remembered what they said. Most people pray when they're close to death. I hardly doubt that all the passengers were atheists.
Yesterday I saw something on tv, they reconstructed what happened in one of the planes and the people which had been called by the passengers in the plane said what these people said. It was pretty authentic.
Let's say you had been on that flight, do you think God would have saved you just because you're christian and because you pray ?
Come on, christians die all the time and nobody helps them.

as for the prayers....
Let's say a few christians come together every day and pray many hours for peace in Israel, do you think God cares about this ?
Things which have to happen will happen, it's enevitable.
That's like praying that the revelation won't come true and that the antichrist will not arrive, it's simply senseless.


Posted by: Frederik

So maybe he is waiting for Frederik.

Oh yes, I absolutely have no doubts that God is just waiting for me to pray for peace that he's finally allowed to bring peace to the whole world....
It's all my fault that there's still war in Iraq and that there are still people dying, if I had prayed for peace earlier there would already be peace and Bin Laden would also have been caught if only I had prayed for him being captured....
I am such a scatterbrain.


Posted by: JG

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederik
So maybe he is waiting for Frederik.

Oh yes, I absolutely have no doubts that God is just waiting for me to pray for peace that he's finally allowed to bring peace to the whole world....
It's all my fault that there's still war in Iraq and that there are still people dying, if I had prayed for peace earlier there would already be peace and Bin Laden would also have been caught if only I had prayed for him being captured....
I am such a scatterbrain.



First of all we must think on this...
GOD SAID HE IS WAITING FOR YOU TO PRAY
second of all it might not be just a few, maybe He is waiting for a certain number of Christiand to pray.

Maybe they have to believe
Maybe they have to have faith.
Maybe they have to be humble
Maybe they have to confess their sin first.

HMMMMMMM


Posted by: Frederik

Mabye mabye maybe maybe it's Maybeline....

It's always easy finding excuses.
I have the impression that many christians lost their brains and cannot really question things any longer, when it's in the bible it's the truth. Over and out..... No I don't wanna hear anything contrary anymore, I don't wanna think about it cause I'm scared that maybe I find something which doesn't fit together, just leave me in my world, I don't even wanna know the truth I just wanna have peace and don't wanna be forced to think on my own.
This is how many christians are and actually I'm the same. I don't even wanna hear anything contrary to my belief cause somehow I'm scared.


Posted by: JG

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederik
Mabye mabye maybe maybe it's Maybeline....

It's always easy finding excuses.


That's right Frederik you find many.
I just listed all the things God requires for answered prayer and you did not know one of them.

Have you read the instruction book or are you making your own. The wrath of God is He will let you write your own book.


Posted by: talena

God, I repent. If there was someone on those planes or in those buildings that you had sent my way at ANY point, and I failed to share the love of God with them...I REPENT!! Father, please forgive me and help me to go out with boldness so that I dont miss ANYONE! Give me the words to say and the wisdom to deal with any doubts that they may have. God, for EVERY soul that I have missed in the past please send me 10000 in it's place. I pray Father that You ALWAYS guide me and direct me. God I lift Frederik up to You today. I can sympathize with him. I have felt his anger. I have been there. Please show him God that this tragedy IS something that could have been prevented. God, show Frederik how we as the body of Christ should come together and be united in our efforts to reach the lost. Father, give Frederik peace today, give him understanding in his heart. I lift him up to You God. Wrap your arms around him and just love on him, let him feel Your awesomeness. Touch his heart Lord. I cry out to You on his behalf. Give him the strength to face this issue and carry on. Be in the midst of his prayers today as he helps me pray for the loved ones of the victims. I know Frederik has a heart for them Lord. Encourage Frederik in Your Word. I stand in the gap Lord that Frederik will soon love to worship You in a way that is pleasing. May his praises go up like a sweet aroma to You. We love You God. We thank You for Your blessings. I thank You for my dear friend Frederik, touch HIS family today God. I am believing with Frederik for their salvation. Touch his father and his brother and draw them close to you today...weigh conviction on their hearts. In Jesus name, AMEN!


Posted by: JG

Quote:
Originally Posted by talena
God, I repent. If there was someone on those planes or in those buildings that you had sent my way at ANY point, and I failed to share the love of God with them...I REPENT!! , AMEN!



WOW THAT WAS A GREAT PRAYER I ONLY WISH EVERYONE DID THAT TODAY


Posted by: Frederik

Maybe they have to believe

Satan is the biggest believer of all, there is noone with a stronger faith than him.

Maybe they have to have faith.

How much faith ? How is faith measured ? Are you talking about faith or biblical faith ?

Maybe they have to be humble

Define being humble and if I'm not humble enough how do I become more humble ?

Maybe they have to confess their sin first.

Which sin ? Every sin they ever committed ?


Posted by: JG

You said: Satan believes JAM 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

Even satan trembles at God. Now you know it is not just believing.


Posted by: Frederik

I find this ridiculous.
You can never know wether you are "humble enough" you never know wether you admitted all your sins.
Shall I make a list every day:

sin nr. 2054

I looked at my neighbour and wasn't totally filled with love towards him.

sin nr. 2055

I watched an action movie and TV and I am not sure wether watching this movie was sinful or not.

sin nr. 2056

I was angry at my dad.

Supposingly I forgot to say sorry for even 1 sin does this mean my prayers aren't worth anything ?
I wanna see the person which said sorry for every single sin and confessed it.

And even if I confessed all my sins, maybe my faith isn't strong enough.
There are always excuses when prayers don't work.

Do you really think God sits up there with his checklist and checks off every single requirement before he grants a prayer ?

Oh sorry Frederik, today you were really close, you confessed all your sins but your faith was a bit too weak today and this is why I cannot answer your prayer. Please try again later. Bye.

Once again I have to tell you, that you're prayer couldn't be answered.
This time you were humble enough and also the faith was improved, but you forgot to confess sin # 20457 and this is why you're prayer cannot be answered. Take it easy man. At least praying doesn't cost anything.


Posted by: talena

Frederik...

Approach God with the humbleness of a child. (Matt 18:2-4)

How do you have faith...read Proverbs 3:5-7

5. TRUST in the Lord with ALL thine heart and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6. In ALL thy ways acknowledge Him and he shall direct thy paths.
7. Be not wise in thine own eyes; fear the Lord and depart from evil.


Posted by: Frederik

I don't know what being humble means.
Does God want me to crawl on my knees and admit that I'm nothing and that I deserve nothing or what ? Is it that what God wants ?

When I pray "Please God help xy with his disease and cure him,amen" how can I be humble ? Is this better "please God, I know that I am scum and I am not more than dirt under the fingernails but I humbly ask you to help this one fellow xy who is sick. Maybe if you're not too busy you could help him, that would be really generous from you. Please excuse me disturbing you, I am sorry. Bye."

I will neither understand nor know God.
Not from the stuff which I read in the bible.


Posted by: talena

AHHHH... that explains something.

I will try my best to help you, but in all honesty this is going to have to be something that you train yourself to do. GOD had to humble me, that didn't feel too good at first.

Philippians 2:3 defines it as "lowliness of mind". When I think of a lowly, humble person I think of maybe a butler, for example. Most butlers are VERY intelligent people. As a matter of fact, most butlers in Europe get an education just to be a "servant". Humbleness means having a desire to put others before yourself. The things that you say or do are not for yourself, but for the glory of God. It means putting God first. A butler does not crawl to his employer with his tell stuck between his legs. A butler is esteemed, he approaches his employer with his head held high when called and WILLING to do what is asked of him...approaching his employer KNOWING that he is going to obey and TRUSTING that he will not be led astray. A butler is proud to serve his employer.

You have to see yourself in relation to God.

Humility is NOT an option Frederik...it is essential for our walk with God. The Bible insists that we walk humbly with Him or not at all. (ps 138:6, Is 57:15, 1 Peter 5:5-7)

In short an humble person does not know how to look after themselves FIRST. They worship God in ALL things. They obey God and he directs them. A humble person decreases so that God might increase (John 3:30). Humility does not allow for boasting.

I could go on and on about this. But I hope that you get the point.


Posted by: Telecia

When I logged on to this site this morning after being away for about week or so, I noticed the image of Christ (as portrayed by Jim Caveziel)...and I quickly went by it because though it is the truth, it's gruesome. With all that I know about Christ and I know a thing or two, I realize that the visual torment deemed 'gruesome' is at the same time spiritually, atleast "awesome". The blood, sweat and tears He bore for you and me...is just (tearfully) unbearable...He took that for me? I cannot make sense of it...but I know it to be true.

Then I came across this image of the twin towers being destroyed. Many of you know that I'm from NY. And I tell you these images are nothing compared to the memories it brings to all who were here. The stentch of death, the hopelessness, the pressing wickedness that covered this city...it, much like the image of Christ on the Main Page is not easy to take. But it happened. The past is unchanging.

Even while I experienced major trauma from the 9/11 tragedies...my senses of reasoning kicked in all day, all night for weeks all we saw on television were these images. They had pictures of body parts in the newspapers...it was crazy around here!!! It didn't dawn on me until later that the local networks unilaterally made the decision to stop airing them because it was making it worse. The cable networks continued, completely insensitve, wicked even. Everytime I saw this very footage posted I hollered, wept like I was losing my mind. I knew God, but I greive for every soul that was marinated, blown-up and crushed in this...this...evil, evil act of violence.

But to some degree, I understand Pastor Jim's reason for 're-airing' the unimaginable. #1 because it DID happen... #2 Our Mayor has coined the phrase: Business as usual...which is a lie. The media is projecting unemployment is down...it is a lie. The leaders of this country have and continue to lie to us...and this nation under God is in fact being called to the carpet for the arrogance and deception it has revelled in for hundreds of years.

Just as in all wars: the outcome is uncertain except for this: the innocent get caught in the crossfire...they die. The truth of the matter is the enemy was allowed to bring those buildings down for us to choose whom we will serve. Extreme? The Christ on Calvary was extreme.

I know our currency reads: In God We Trust. But God is asking which God? The god of finance, trade, riches and self-promotion or the God who only doeth wonderous things?

The economic condition of this country will never recover...but thanks be unto God there will be victory, wealth and abundance unto the household of faith!

May God Keep Us All In Truth
Humbly Submitted,
T!

Let us keep the truth in front of us and let God give us grace to handle it according to His Sovereign Will


Posted by: awesome16

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederik
I don't know what being humble means.
Does God want me to crawl on my knees and admit that I'm nothing and that I deserve nothing or what ? Is it that what God wants ?

When I pray "Please God help xy with his disease and cure him,amen" how can I be humble ? Is this better "please God, I know that I am scum and I am not more than dirt under the fingernails but I humbly ask you to help this one fellow xy who is sick. Maybe if you're not too busy you could help him, that would be really generous from you. Please excuse me disturbing you, I am sorry. Bye."

I will neither understand nor know God.
Not from the stuff which I read in the bible.

oh frederik how it makes you mad or sad when you see stuff about 9/11 but yet you still see it. an how it makes me very sad an mad to see how sometimes we dont trust in God. you dont bug God he LOVES when you talk to him pray to him. i talk to him everyday an pray. we need to believe in him. for we are NOTHING WITHOUT HIM. an this i know i was nothing without him. i know i cant stand on my 2 feet without him. i know i cant take it when the devil trys to win on my own. i know i cant help anyone without God. i know i cant live one day without him nor do i ever want to. he is here he is always here he has been here. he will always be here for he is our God. we just need to TRUST IN HIM BELIEVE IN HIM WALK WITH HIM TALK TO HIM PRAY TO HIM AN PRAISE HIM


Posted by: cliiff n cindy

frederik i am new in this format, but i know how you are feeling, i have questioned the humility factor and have come to the conclusion that God is sovereign and is all loving and all knowing. the subject of being humble is not one of being put under an oogres thumb, but one of loving and believing that God is and is a rewarder of those who seek Him. His love is insurmountable and He does NOOOOOT expect you to grovel in the durt or beg for anything. all he desires (yes, desires) your devotion and love in return. Goood sent His son, Jesus to bring you freedom from The bondage of sin and death. all you need to do is accept the fact that you , as am i, a sinner in need of a savior. Jesus will forgive you if you will ask him and will answer the questions you have need of to be answered as you grow in grace. i will be here for you if you desire
in His Holy name, God be with you in your journey.


Posted by: FaithnJesus

We do not understand everything that God allows to happen to us. And just because God allows it, that does not mean he did it to us. As horrible as 9/11 was, I have faith that God works all things for our good. He never promised us that we would understand his ways while we are on this earth. However, he promised us that we would spend eternity with him and his son and all things would be made know to us.