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Sacraments vs. drinking Blood Products
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Posted by: Christian Commando
Ok, you all may be wondering why I posted this here. My main goal is for 1- to get others thoughts on this topic and 2- To seek Pastor Jerry's convictions about Scripture for a lesson on this.
For most of the years of God's Ministry thru me, I've taught as believed God showed me was Truth about this subject. Here is what I believe God and Christ have taght me about the sacrements of Communion-
God taught us first, in Leviticus 17:13-14,
13- "And whatsoever man there be of the Children of Isreal, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, which hunteth and catcheth any beast or fowl that may be eaten; he shall even pour out the blood thereof, and cover it with dust."
14- "For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life thereof; therefore, I say unto the children of Isreal, ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh; for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof; whosoever eateth of it shall be cut off."
Now, go to Acts 15:20-
20- "But that we write unto them, thaat they obstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood."
Thus, what I believe God taght me then was- (concerning the sacrements), that, we are to believe that when Christ spoke of the "fruit of the vine" being His Blood, we are to accept by faith, it is taken as tho were His Blood, but still only a representation of it.
As I have always taught, by Levitius 17:14- "You shall eat the blood of "NO MANNER" of flesh, that we cannot believe we are drinking Christ's real Blood, but an actual representation of It in Jesus' case.
I am convicted this way, as I could never make an acception for believing consecrated grape juice would become Jesus' "real blood" to be drank, when God forbids drinking of the blood of "all manner" of flesh.
People have pointed out, as in Matt. 26:28, Mk. 14:24, and Lk. 22:20, that Jesus declares the liquid in the cup is His Blood.
Matt. 26:28- "For this is My Blood of the New Testament". Mk 14:24- "This is My Blood of the New Testament", Lk 22:20- "This cup is the New Testament in My Blood".
But, I suggest this is still a "representation", as I know what real blood tastes like, from being involved, as well as helping with, some awful bad accidents and disasters, and to be honest, have never had the "taste" of real blood from drinking of the communion juice.
The reason I suggest this, is because such as in Matt. 26:29-""But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it anew with you in My Father's Kingdom."
And this shows as well in Mark and Luke as well. Thus, I continue to believe Christ was speaking in terms of the "fruit of the vine" representing, not not really becoming, His real Blood.
enjoy hehe!!
God Bless!!
Posted by: MarkSentMe
I'm right there with you!
However, I have heard that the belief is that once you drink it and it enters you, it becomes Jesus' Blood. I 'm not going there. I'll accept that the grape juice or wine in some cases is a representation, just as I believe the wine at the Last Supper was a representation. JMHO (Just My Humble Opinion).
Posted by: eagle4him
Just like baptism is a representation of death, life and resurrection, so too is the sacrament of the Lord's supper symbolic of eating His flesh and drinking His blood.
Jesus said that we must eat His flesh and drink His blood in order to attain eternal life.
Jesus also prayed in the Garden for the Father to take the "cup" from Him if possible, the cup being symbolic of the blood that was to be shed for our sins.
Just a few of my thoughts.
Posted by: Christian Commando
Thank you for your input MarkSentMe.
Eagle-
I agree for the most part, but the "Cup" Jesus spoke of in the Garden was not of that shedding of Blood for our sins, but while there in the Garden, He sweat drops of Blood and prayed the Father would allow Him to not die before His atonement for man could be acomplished.
Why? God foretold thousands of times in the Old Test., a Savior would be coming and be sacrificed for thier sins to save them. And Jesus spoke saying "I am not come to destroy the Law, but to fulfill it.
So, there was no fear in Christ at all for the suffering atonement He'd have to endure- Lk. 22:37, Jhn. 18:3-5,11. It was when blood started to flow as sweat, during His sweating in the Garden of Gethsemane, praying more earnestly- Lk 22:41-44, that His work be acomplished Jhn 16:32-33, 17:1-26.
God Bless!!