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Posted by: truehope
Does God send all suicides to hell?
Posted by: truehope
Posted by: truehope
Will you pray for me? I feel under attack by demons. I need more strength than i feel i have.
Posted by: Christian Commando
truehope-
Question 1- Yes, those who commit suicide do go to Hell. For it is the one sin that cannot be forgiven by God when it is committed intentionally, for they are no longer alive after doing this.
Question 2- Will you pray for me?
Of course-
Lord-
We pray you will lead this person to come before your Throne in repentance and seek forgiveness for being a sinner and having sinned We pray your Holy Spirit will show them they can avoid eternal death by seeking the above, and for christ to come into thier heart and change them, as well as, in thier heart, accept Jesus Christ as thier true Lord and Savior. In Jesus Name- Amen!!
Posted by: truehope
A christian minister found me on a website for grief and we started emailing. I am mourning the loss of a father who abused me in mutiple ways, he dies a couple of months ago. All my past wounds burst open the day he died, we were estranged. This minister persuaded me to accept Jesus as Lord was in a crisis. Since then about 6 weeks ago, i have been haunted badly by demons. My mental health has been bottoming out. I am confused and vulnerable. my head is filled with voices that want me to kill myself. Because i also believe i see signs from God, telling me to do the same thing. If a person had for example a schitsophrenic eppisode and commited suicide whilst their reality was distorted, would they still burn in Hell. Because if you are sick should you be to blame?
Thank you for praying for me. I am still looking for a lot more prayers.
Posted by: GODS Grace
Precious Father God,
Please help truehope take captive these destructive thought and be renewed by the bible with healthy thoughts. You tell us that we are the apple of your eye...please show this dear one your truth about themself. You tell us that we will not be tempted above what we can endure but you will make an excape... please show truehope your plans for hope, joy and peace. Get them courage and strength to bring all these cares and burdens and lay them at your feet so they can forgive and be healed.
Bring them a healthy support system to help them through this time of healing and restoration. Show them how proud you are of the positive step they have made to seek your help. Bring deliverance from these painful thought and free them completely from their effects.
In Jesus Name, Amen
Posted by: truehope
Thank you for praying for me! I believe in prayer a lot. I hope that somebody else might pray for me too. I gives me hope.
Posted by: Christian Commando
truehope-
Yes, I'm afraid they wuld still go to Hell. As there is, as I showed before, no way for them to repent of that sin "after the fact".
Both God and Christ have declared, many shall come, but few will enter". As they know, many will claim all types of reasons to allow them entrance to Heaven, yet those reasons will not fulfill- "Salvation by Grace"- (not by works, lest any man should boast) for 1, and 2- Walking away from God totally even if had lived for and belonged to God before, Heb. 6:4-6. 3- Intentionally committing a sin of which you die doing, where there is no chance for repentance before death. (Sin unto death).
4- Even if belong to God, yet continually sin against Him intentionally thru abominable practices and not seek repentance and turn away from it, you will be lost to God.- (King Saul of Old Test, called and appointed by God, yet lost to God in the end for this). I Sam. 15:1, 28:1-31:4, Heb. 11:1-32. (King Saul not listed among the Old Test. Patriarchs in New Test.).
These are some of the Scriptures which should answer your question about suicide. I know its sad, but God is a loving and just God and must make the rightceous decisions that may seem unfair at times, but are just and right for you and I do not know all things that are just and right, for we are falable and seek to our own lusts, being tainted by sin. Our ways are clearly not God's ways.
Lord-
We pray for these demons to be driven from this person and they be able to think clearly and realize you have a plan for them and path to follow to you, that the evil ones will no longer have any influence or control over them. In Jesus Name- Amen!!
God Bless!!
Posted by: truehope
Are believers against non-believers?
Posted by: rainbow788
Truehope, i'm so sorry you are going through such a difficult time. I do hope you are receiving professional help to deal with your depression and grief. Its so important to talk to someone about how you are feeling rather than trying to cope with it on your own. You mentioned conversations with a minister on a grief website and that you recently accepted the Lord into your life and since then have been hearing voices in your head telling you to end your life. It sounds like you are experiencing a spiritual attack...the devil is putting these thoughts in your mind because he is the author of confusion and he is trying to make you believe that these dark thoughts are from God instead of from him, but God loves you so much and wants to help you through this painful time. God is calling you to walk with Him each day. He will give you the strength you need each day. satan is the father of lies and confusion...he knows you are hurting right now. when these negative thoughts occur, you must take them captive and resist the devil and he will flee. put some praise and worship music on and begin praising God and ask Him to strengthen and to help you. Find a Bible based church in your area and spend time in God's Word each day and ask other Christians to pray for you as you grow in the Lord. God lead you here for a reason i am sure of that! God has an awesome plan for your life. Hang in there and dont give up! I will be praying for you. God bless!
Posted by: truehope
Thank you so much for your words and prayers. The minister that was trying to help me is really mad at me right now because i explained some of my paranoia to her and she took it personally. I am so confused right now. All i can do is pray for prayers, because i can't even know how to pray for anything else. i just need some experienced prayers to help me. Thank you.
Posted by: Rachel R
"Does God send all suicides to hell?"
NO.
God isn't 'SENDING' anyone to hell.
They go to hell because they refuse the FREE GIFT of salvation provided by Jesus' sacrifice on the cross.
God isn't trying to keep people OUT of the family, he's trying to get them IN.
When your father died, THE ABUSE STOPPED.
Do not allow him to abuse you from the grave.
Throw all that pain in the hole with him and leave it there.
God wants you to be free and live a wonderful, happy and productive life.
So, here, dear one, is my "experienced" prayer for you:
Lord Jesus, I am so glad to welcome truehope into our family!
Thank you for them and give them the strength and courage they need to grow up in you.
Surround them with the people who will inspire them to fill their mind with the Word of God.
In Jesus' Mighty Name, Amen.
Now get up on your legs and fight for yourself.
Study the Bible and do the work.
Rachel R
Posted by: Christian Commando
truehope-
No, nonbelievers are not against Believers. God declares the battle is not of the flesh but of the spirit. Therefore, it is Satan who is against God, who influences people t go against those who believe in and follow and belong to God.
If Satan can tear down the witness of a Believer- (True Child of God), it can be amunition for Satan to use against believing in God. Satan can then more easily convince people to believe in his false doctrines.
As for a True Child of God possibly going to Hell for sin committed they can't repent of- Heb.10:26, 28-29 for more Truth, but... look at this thread in "Jerry's Lessons and at Pastor Jerry's responce to suicide #5 post and on, you'll see what God speaks of such things.
http://www.annointed.net/ForumTopic_11179__15.htm
There you will find your answer much more clearly and deeply defined.
As for the Minister who is upset with you, let it not bother you. Its quite clear, God is unable, thru her, to settle your mind about questions posed her from you, of which you have not heard responces that satisfy your understanding.
I would suggest possibly a True Christian Councilor, who is trained for dealing with such things and leads from a Biblical foundation for sharing insights for answers. Otherwise, we may ask if Pastor Jerry would lead us in a discussin of your points, concerns and questions if like.
Lord-
We pray that you would uphold this person and help them to stay strong in you and provide them the peace and calm they seek of thier questions and confusion. Drive off the attacks of Satan dividing this person's mind for thoughts and beliefs and bring them to a true understanding of your Word of Truth as you know best. In Jesus Name- Amen!!
Posted by: truehope
Oh wow, i feel so much better being prayed for. I dreamed i was under attack and you all were with me and i was safe. I am truely under attack now though, big time. I have a big interest in Pastor Jerry helping...i have one huge question/concern reguarding God and Satan and the bible and Ministers etc...that i need to ask, but really need to feel it's safe for me to ask. I don't want to get yelled at like i did by the other minister. That really made me wonder who she was serving!? And then i have been messed upo bad since then. Hiding my question, i need to ask. Thanks so much for helping me everybody. I did not feel worthy of concern before. Anyways, i do want to get better and do the work etc...I still need help though, i swear i feel cursed. I am a good person though. I pray you all can gether strength for your struggles. Amen
P.S. I read the suicide thread posted from a few years back, lots to think about....thanks for the link.
Posted by: truehope
Please don't abandon me now. I think i could have a breakthrough with just a little bit more prayer. ...but i am still in a huge battle..
Posted by: Christian Commando
truehope-
Please understand our friend, that we are not here to yell at people, scold them and chew them out for thoughts, beliefs, questions, etc. God has placed us here to love others, to seek to help them as God guides us to.
Any questions you are in need of answers towards, God, Satan, God's Word or Ministries, feel free to ask, we will do all we can to provide you the answer God would have you understand, as He leads of us to share.
No question is silly, stupid or ridiculous when it is something a person is seeking answers to. You don't learn just by watching, listening or doing, but also by asking.
God Bless my friend!!
Posted by: K67
We love true hope!!
....Always praying for you. Accept the protection/healing that has been awaiting you spiritually and physically. The ememy mocks and does not want you to have it so of course it will try to trick, haunt, lie, and decieve you. You "are" stronger than that. Bind it and cast it out in the name of Jesus. Be gone now! Ask for angels guidance and protection. You can trust that.
If you do not trust your own mind set right now ( in terms of safety etc ) then please get a private professional evaluation for your own protection. They might prescribe something after testing to simply bring balance back to you, but God will take care of this. Trust that. Spiritual warfare is never fun. The hand of God is much bigger than all this. A flourishing life ...is what God has been intending for you. That is the real truth. There are no permanent obstacles.
We love true hope!! 
K
Innocence
There is no fear greater
than the fear of being happy.
There is no reluctance more deeply seated
than the unwillingness to see all faults
and sins as simply mistakes.
Who could honestly denounce another
if it was admitted that all he had done
was make a mistake?
Instead, the other is seen
as selfish and internally dark,
a thing unworthy of life,
to be attacked and weakened.
To have any hope of happiness,
we must first recognize those times
we are afraid
of the innocence of others.
They are the same moments
as when we ourselves
resist feeling gentle and free.
We mistakenly believe
that our sense of self-worth
comes from how we compare to others,
and that to see them as innocent
would reflect badly on us.
So we remain hard and exacting
in order not to allow
any evidence of guilt
to go unnoticed.
But our fear of the sinlessness
of what God has created
also leaves no possibility
of recognizing our own
inherent worthiness.
Let us therefore practice
genuine self-interest.
Let us renounce anxiety
and try in its place
an experiment in kindness.
Hugh Prather
Posted by: kaleidescope-eyes
Truehope, I believe I am supposed to encourage you a segment of Mark 9:
“How long has the child been like this?” Jesus asked the father.
“Ever since he was a child,” he replied. “Again and again it has thrown him into the fire or into water to finish him off [kill him]. But if you can do anything, please take pity on us and help us.”
[And later, Jesus speaks sharply to the demon:]
“I command you, deaf-and-dumb spirit, come out of this boy and never go into him again!”
The father recognized that it was NOT the boy who was trying to kill himself / commit suicide (even though it probably looked that way to some people). Rather, it was a demon (deaf-and-dumb/mute spirit) that would overcome the boy and IT would throw the boy into the fire or into water to burn and/or drown him.
I am certain that when a Christian has thoughts about suicide, it is most often because they are being harassed by a demon.
I believe that is what is happening in your case (demonic mental harassment). So I am and will be praying for you, rest assured!
Yes, it is difficult to be in the place where you hear not only the voice of God, but other voices as well.
As your discernment develops over time, you will learn better how to distinguish God’s voice from demonic voices, and from the voices within your own soul that are, in fact, parts of yourself. (Been down that road myself!).
So I pray for you for the Holy Spirit’s gift of discernment for you. Be patient with yourself – God is faithful and he will teach you how to use it. He will also bring soundness and wholeness to your mind. Give it time! Read the Bible – especially the New Testament.
God loves you more than you can imagine!
Take care,
Kaleidoscope-eyes