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Vision good & vision bad of same person

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Posted by: JeriRose12

Okay, in the first scene I saw a man preaching (he looks like the man I have seen in visions before, whom I believe to be my future husband). He was preaching with enthusiam, excitment, gusto. He was waving fist around and jumping on one leg. Good, old pentecostal or good new charismatic style. He was wearing a chamois or pale yellow shirt and khaki pants. Don't know if color of clothes matters.

In second vision, I saw him covered in a kind of shroud (he was staning up, though) -- it was a black rectangle of semi-sheer fabric or substance. I saw his fist raised, as if he was shaking it at God in anger.

So is the second vision something that is going to happen? Or is it something the devil is trying to scare me with? Or is God warning me it could happen? And, if it is a warning, how do we pray or act so it doesn't happen?

A little later I envisoned him lowering his fist and bowing his head as if in sorrow and repentance, but this was ME (not necessarily God) picturing it as in a faith picture of what I would rather see than the angry man covered in the black shroud. I had prayed he would pass by the anger and be the man God had intended (that on fire preacher type man, hot for God). So, then, I thought of what I would rather see....and that is the picture that came to mind.

Does anyone have anything from God on what the black shroud and angry man part means? The first part seems quite clear, only not sure if it's evanelistic preaching or preaching to Christians. I have felt that I will marry an evangelist. I keep thinking of the "curse God and die" thing that Job's wife told him to do. And I feel like the man in my vision was basically doing that, and thus the black shroud represented spritiual death.

So, in other words, is it ineveitable he goes through a period like this? Or can he remain strong and unwavering in faith, regardless of what tradgedies, atrocities, adversties and the like come his way? Can His love for God remain strong and steadfast and is the anger only going to come as a temptation that he says "No" to? And is there some thing I need to pray, say, do to help him bypass this side tracking and stepping back altogether?

I honestly do believe, there are Christians who start strong, continue strong and finish strong, and I want him to be one of those.

I would appreciate any insight God gives you.

~JeriRose~

Or my own thought: is this (negative vision) just the flip side of who he could be or would be without God in his life? Is this what the devil had planned for him but that Jesus redeemed him from?


Posted by: JeriRose12

Later, I had a vision of him punching his fist through the black cloth (or it appeared to be that). He punched it at first and it just flew outwards in the shape of the fist. Then, he punched a hole in it, breaking through. So whatever the black thing is, he has one vicotry over it. I was wondering about a spriit of death, as I got the feeling it was a specter. Or it had the sense of a ghost, as it was opaque. I was wondering if this spirit of death was trying to kill his ministry....or take him out spiritually. Or perhaps, kill him unto physical death. Was it trying to convince him his ministry was dead? Or maybe just putting the pal of death over him, like he felt it was dead?

Anyway, very curious what it all means, as interpretations could go different ways. Perhaps, as I wait on God, I will get more.

~JeriRose~


Posted by: GODS Grace

None of us are exempt from attacks. (including ministers)
Adam and Jesus were both attacked by the devil.
Jesus overcame the lust of the flesh,
the lust of the eyes,
and the pride of life.

Adam didn't overcome and left unsaved mankind with many weakness.

The cloak of darkness is revealing an attack, so what kind of attack is it?

Satan will look for every possible weakness.

God created our strengths and weaknesses for relationship. He can bring others along side up for support, encouragement and strength, but the enemy will bring people who are negative and critical.

In the first vision; chamois does represent a soft nature, but notice the fist. We must recognize the enemy who is attacking us, instead of the people being used to hurt us. It's good that the man was able to "breakthrough" the cloak of darkness.

A closed fist is the opposite of an open recieving hand.
Let's believe God for hearts to be open and receptive to others, especially those God sents to us.

Seems like jumping around on one leg would not be very productive, God intends for us to live happy, productive lives that interact with others.

Hope that helps! GOD'S Grace

Submit to God, resist the devil and he MUST FLEE!


Posted by: JeriRose12

Thanks for the input, GOD'SGrace It does help.

As to the one leg, it was like those preachers (don't know if you watch TBN), who are so excited, they are kind of dancing around, and they are on one leg in a kind of leap. Or should I say, in their excitement, they lift one leg. It's a pentecostal or charismatic style preaching method.

The fist when he was preaching was like pumping the air in excitement (he was not angry there).

The vision with the cloak of darkness was the angry fist.

Hope that clarifies a little.

Funny, I should have mentioned "curese God and die." Today, I was in so much physical pain (it doesn't really stop me from moving and being active, it just makes me stiff, sore, weak, etc.), I was wondering if I wanted to go on serving God. I had that thought that it just hurt too much and was distracting me from focusing on God and "Why bother?" anyway. I know that to be an attack from Satan, and I have no intentions of following through. But I wondered if that related to the vision of the man in anyway.

Also, I often have seen a vision of this man in khaki. Is there a spiritual symbology to khaki?

Are there Christian websites out there for help with visions and dreams? I usually end up on some new agey site. We aren't supposed to publicly post websites, so can you guys PM me if you know of one that's credible?

JeriRose


Posted by: Rmartel

In my past training I have seen a vision of elder woman with gray hair joining together to put a patch work quilt together. Each one putting what represents a piece of there prayer life into it to make someone a covering
or what is also known as a ministry. They were doing this unbenounced to anyone. But the Lord decided for some reason to show me this.
He also in the past showed me different blankets for fellow believers I knew.
I showed one blanket to a friend that was for him and he said in a confirming way that he had one exactly the same as a child.
Joseph had the coat of many colors made from the heart of peices of cloth
reminding him of events and love ones; also i beleive made with prayer
as well.
So in the understanding that I have recieved; the black sheer cloth is a covering but not from God but it is from a woman as the sheerness is like a woman's stockings representing trouble for this mans ministry as in improper conductor involement with a woman.
Just like the people of God elderly woman were making a blanket /covering /
ministry for a Pastor;thru prayer ; likewise ,the enemy does the opposite
to ruin this mans calling.
You i beleive are called to prayer to what you expressed desired to see.
After all prayer is calling things into being as though they are. AMEN?
Much like you wrote about in your 4th paragraph.
We are the body of believers and we travail in prayer that Christ would be formed in each one of us as well as this man. So that the Gospel of the Kingdom would be preached.
I am asking and beleiving this man would have this shawl removed and be given a new one (Fullsize to cover him) included in the shawl; a remanant of there life(Gifts) much like the Lord showed me these Elder woman in grey hair (Wisdom) praying in the Spirit also
in line with Proverbs 31.
I donot give up hope ; after all he is our hope lest we faint ;I only beleive in what I pray not looking back
knowing full well that my God heard me. How he chooses to answer is his concern and when . I only know he heard even my thoughts.
Big Big God ;little bitty devil. I hope this helps
I donot take credit for the title. Guess who chose it?
Rmartel


Posted by: JeriRose12

Thanks for the input. Someone told me when we don't keep a prayer covering over people, their prayer shawl unravels. . . . Also, this reminds me of something I wrote in the story God gave me recently (that I am waiting on Him for further directions as to how to proceed with it). There is the same kind of trying to discredit or bring down a minister and his ministry in there. . .and he was very angry about it (not at God, but at those who trumped up the story). But he had to work through the anger and get rid of it, because that was not the correct way to respond to those who wronged him.

~JeriRose~


Posted by: GODS Grace

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Originally Posted by JeriRose12
Thanks for the input, GOD'SGrace It does help.

As to the one leg, it was like those preachers (don't know if you watch TBN), who are so excited, they are kind of dancing around, and they are on one leg in a kind of leap. Or should I say, in their excitement, they lift one leg. It's a pentecostal or charismatic style preaching method.

The fist when he was preaching was like pumping the air in excitement (he was not angry there).

The vision with the cloak of darkness was the angry fist.

Hope that clarifies a little.

Funny, I should have mentioned "curese God and die." Today, I was in so much physical pain (it doesn't really stop me from moving and being active, it just makes me stiff, sore, weak, etc.), I was wondering if I wanted to go on serving God. I had that thought that it just hurt too much and was distracting me from focusing on God and "Why bother?" anyway. I know that to be an attack from Satan, and I have no intentions of following through. But I wondered if that related to the vision of the man in anyway.

Also, I often have seen a vision of this man in khaki. Is there a spiritual symbology to khaki?

Are there Christian websites out there for help with visions and dreams? I usually end up on some new agey site. We aren't supposed to publicly post websites, so can you guys PM me if you know of one that's credible?

JeriRose
I've heard "khaki" can represent "regimented thinking".
My pastor has told me ...
God lead him to reads/prays through Galations 3 when he sees "eyes covered" or attacked.
2 Corinthians 4 also speaks of "the veil of darkness/unbelief " the enemy attacks with.
I pray you are feeling better and ask for God's healing hand touch/rest upon your body.
Love and Grace to you!


Posted by: Christian Commando

JeriRose-

The black color represents evil, darkness. The fact, if was covering the man over his head, represents satan trying to stifle his service for God.

The fact the blanket appears of a sheer material, shows this attempt is not solid enough to stop that service for God, but only hinder it.

The anger this man demonstrates is not at God but Satan- (Hence the reason it takes several attempts with God's help to quell this attack when he finally punches thru the blanket.

Seeing him bowing down as in faith, was his finally letting it go to God and seeing the attack overcome. Your prayer will be answered.

Dreams and visions always come true exactly as portrayed wether symbolic or actual events. The symbolism becomes very clear what was mean't as its gone thru, where the dreams I had as a kid and into young adult age were actual events that happened mostly, exactly as witnessed in the dream or vision. Thus, they are warnings to be prepared for something unavoidable at some point.

God Bless!!


Posted by: JeriRose12

Thank you, CC. The thing is, I have been seeing this man in visions off and on for years, and I believe it to be my husband. And if not, someone I am called to pray for at any rate. I have not been as faithful as I once was to lift him up, daily. So, perhaps this is a wake up call to me to pray for him. At any rate, I felt like God nudged me that I can reopen myself to the idea of marriage, maybe soon (My niece says my husband is in California.) It's like God told me that should not be a strong focus of my life for a few years, as in praying for him so much as well. The other morning, after this vision, I felt I am supposed to really be praying for him, again.

I keep thinking khaki might mean he works in security or police or military, some line of work that in the real world requires this color. Only, probably not military, since it's usally a button up shirt and slacks. Or maybe he's already a minister and likes this color.

Would the regimented thinking be good or bad? If it the kind of thinking that says the Bible is absolute truth (which some might call regimented), then that would be awesome! After some reading I've been doing recently, there is a lot of junk creeping into the church that questions the total authority of The Word (well, OK, it's been going on for years, but there is an entire movement that is trying to restructure the church as we know it).

~JeriRose~