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Great Excitement over Unity (not boring!)
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Posted by: GODS Grace
Dream:
I'm in a huge crowd of people standing to the left of my husband.
We are standing almost hidden next to the outer wall of this huge building that seemed much like a warehouse.
I quietly tell my husband something.
That's when I realize that there is an echo in the building.
The words traveled quickly through the crowd of people.
As it reaches to opposite side of the building, the sounds came back even louder as a wave through the people.
Celebration music, joy and excitement filled the atmosphere.
My husband tells me that the word was so powerful he could hardly stand up. This building doesn’t have a stage or platform, just a huge body of people responding in perfect unity.
Next, I notice three men in three separate parts of the building.
They didn’t seem to notice each other being caught up in the excitement filling the air. Each of these three men were joyously moving swiftly PERFECTLY synchronized with one another to music. It seemed as if they were playing basketball with no ball or like these men had just heard there favorite commercial playing and auto pilot kicked on.
Of the three men, I remember the young man in the center of the room standing out over the other two; only because of his beautiful bright red head.
Posted by: JeriRose12
Jesus prayed his people would be unified, and it's His one unanswered prayer. How can He return for us before that prayer is answered? I don't believe Jesus will have an unanswered prayer. No wonder these guys were excited! When the body gets in unity, won't that be one aspect of the bride without spot or wrinke He was talking about? I wonder if the three men were angels? I was just in a meeting where there was an awesome sermon on unity, and people reported seeing angels in these meetings. So, when I read your dream, angels immediately came to mind. See if this witnesses in your spirit. They saw dancing angels in this meeting, and I had a vision of a dancing angel before.
JeriRose
Posted by: Christian Commando
Heres what I pick up from that-
The "word" you speak quietly would possibly represent a command of an action to the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit, then move thru the "Body of Christ" like a wave effect bringing about greater unity.
I don't see this unity so much as coming from the individual people themselves coming into unified beliefs and teachings, but more as the Holy Spirit coming over the "Body" like a wave, as God Himself producing this unity.
Because man today, is so "independant" thinking- (as in all religions Christianity has), it will be God, by the Holy Spirit's moving over us, that brings us to unity. Man being so stubborn as a species, would never individually accept unified teachings or beliefs for the size the "Body of Christ" is now, compared to early centuries.
But, this will happen by the power of God thru the Holy Spirit moving like a wave at some point in time, to bring unity at least in part, to the whole "Body", greater than it is now.
The one thing to keep in mind about Jesus' Prayer to the Father shared in John, it was pointed strictly towards the followers of Him to that point, and mainly the Disciples. For in earlier Scriptures during that same prayer, Jesus shows this, declaring He had kept those who the Father had given Him. This clearly denotes Jesus speaking strictly about those the Father chose to be Jesus' followers during the time He was on earth.
John 17, the whole Chapter, is devoted to prayer for the Disciples, not you and I. Jesus did not need to pray for you and I, as the Holy Spirit, if search the Scriptures, speaks many times thru the Apostles to later converts of staying in unity. Those are teachings- (commands if like) aimed now towards the Children of God to follow later.
But Jesus' Prayer in John 17 was strictly for His Disiples alone. For it was Jesus' own prayer to God the Father concerning those the Father chose to follow Christ while on earth- 17:6, 9-12. Yes, in verse 20 Christ makes reference to other believers that will follow to be in unity, but the main prayer is for the Disciples, for they are the pillar of the Ground- which is Christ, to bring the Light of Jesus as the start, to the world.
Really, where unity is, it comes from the Holy Spirit even thru Christian religions, which believe God is a Trinity, that Christ was "God in the flesh" and died for us- rose from the dead to pay the price for our Salvation. plus more. So there is unity in the Body for the main doctrinal beliefs.
While the Body may be divided concerning the rest of the beliefs, thats ok, so long as the main Concepts of God's Divinity as a Trinity, what Christ did, the reasons why and how God accomplished it thru Christ remain the same. And fact is, is even if divided in beliefs, all religions combined, teach the whole Truths of God.
No one religion may teach all God's Truths, but all religions combined do. We must be careful how we judge Christian religions also. None are perfect, because they are derived from and made up of, falable people.
We could condemn the Roman Catholic religion for some of thier non Biblical beliefs, but we can't. Because, the Baptists have some beliefs that are non Biblical. So too the AoG, the Lutheran, Methodist, all have some beliefs that are nonBiblicl.
But, if we condemn them, because they are derived from a falable man's beliefs of interpretation of God's Word, then we condemn all mankind as well, saved and unsaved. No one, in that senario, could ever get to Heaven then.
Rather, let us speak out about the discrepancies in a way to help others to avoid believing them, regardless of the religion, while not condemning the religion or followers, to show the Truths each religion does hold to and follow and Teach, that the Body can become more unified in God thru Christ by love, forgiveness and compassion as such, towards all others.
God has me dealing with a particular Christian group at this time, who belong to some new religion, who have all become members of the last 3 Churches of the original Apostlic main Churches started in the 1st century AD.
And one of thier foundational teachings is that, any "so called Christians" who are not a member of that "trinity of churches", are not true Christians, because they are following other changd beliefs claiming to be Christian.
Now, these are True saved and reborn children of God, who have been decieved, to believe a lie of Satan, that "works"- belonging to the Churches and following thier beliefs, gets you Salvation.
You see, they believe too, its "only by Grace are ye saved thru faith". But they try to claim its not works added to that, to claim also, you have to belong to those
Churches and be following thier accepted beliefs.
They believe and teach, where Christ and God declare- "many shall come, but few will enter", refers to the many as being the majoritiy of the "Body of christ" they believe are lost, and the "few", being only the members of those 3 Churches, following thier teachings, are saved and reborn.
I have never condemned them nor spoken ill of them. I work with probably 5 total on that site. But I do try to help them see the error of this doctrine, that they would come out of it and back to God.
Its like that Scripture speaking of needing to turn those members over to Satan, for the death to the flesh, that thier spirits may be saved in the day of Judgement. But, we don't have to, they have seperated themselves. So, this is God bringing about this situation, while bringing other True Beleviers in thier midst to help them see the Truth behind this deception.
I pray this helps-
God Bless!!
Posted by: GODS Grace
JeriRose,
That must have been one exciting meeting you were in.
I can't recall ever seeing a good angels. 
I have seen death angels and they aren't too pleasant.
Scripture tells us... we will not always know when angels are present.
So, I guess they could be angels.
I do believe God gives each of us guardian angels.
My life is usually quite mundane regarding day-to-day life.
I'll often ask God to send my angel to someone somewhere it's needed more, like to one of our soldiers in Iraq or Afganistan.
Thanks for the reply! God's Grace
Posted by: JeriRose12
I didn't see the angels in the meeting, but some with me did. And I have seen visions of angels at times. There was a lady there who does the dancing with flags (very anointed and challed to this). Someone saw an angel dancing the same moves as she was. Yeah, they were good meetings, all about how God is moving and bringing together the 5 fold ministry in Washingon State. Because we had an awesome sermon on unity, your dream really fit with that. And I got to wondering about angels.
JeriRose
Posted by: JeriRose12
Actually, Jesus says He did not just pray for he disciples but for those who would yet believe....
20"My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one: 23I in them and you in me. May they be brought to complete unity to let the world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me. 24"Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world. 25"Righteous Father, though the world does not know you, I know you, and they know that you have sent me. 26I have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them."
(John 17:20 - 26)
So I believe that this scipture does apply to unity for us today. Because it was the Bible written by the apostles that is the message we believe in.
At any rate, unity is a Bible message for Christians. I, of course, refer to those saved by grace through faith, by belief in Jesus death, blood, burial, resurrection....finished work. These can be in all churches, and we can't remove the tares per chance we uproot the wheat. So, we have to praise God where Christ is preached, and leave the gathering of the tares to the angels at the end of this world's system. Even if a brother seems to be doing something new agey (which meany get accused of in these times), we are to be geting along with them, in hat they are our brothers and sisters and anyone that loves God, we should love. We must pray for them if we are feeling discernment that they are doing wrong stuff. And praise the Lord where Christ is preached.
I agree with CC, though. It seemed like here it was the Holy Spirit move that unified these believers. That's the case in the meetings I was in. And there are many scriptures that refer to us being baptized into one Spirit and the Spirit being what unifies us.
JeriRose
Posted by: Christian Commando
Forgive me Sis, if seeming to detract from your post, but really I wasn't. It took alot of years for God to teach me this also.
Unity comes in many forms. For instance, in marriage- There is a man, and a woman. Naturally the two cannot be the same gender as the other. So, unity- "one flesh", comes in all areas- 1- working together to Glorify God. 2- fulfilling each one's role as the partner according to gender. 3- Common goals, even if God still has each one doing diverse Ministries. 4- Backing each other as a unified couple lead by God. 5- Each filling in, where the other lacks. 6- Able to view things different thant the other, adds more to what God wants them as a couple to learn. Plus more.
The unity is there, but it takes work to grow that unity stronger, thru its diversity between the difference of genders, learning how to use those diversities for glorifying God, rather than to divide them. And seldom, when two different people view an accident, will you get identical descriptions of it. One may see things the other don't and vise versa. Thats why I love added comments. I'm constantly supprised by what God is teaching me thru so many interactions between people and them and I as well.
You both are great inspirations of God to me, so don't ever think I totally disagree at times, but I have viewed and thus will share things from other directions sometimes.
Heres one last thought. When my earthly father hit his 70's, he commented quite often he was too old to learn anymore. But, personally, I've found, I'll never stop learning, no matter what age I am.
God Bless!!
CC
Posted by: GODS Grace
No apology necessary.
I've just notices your reply and will have to read it again later when I have more time to understand...(dyslexic)
With Love In Christ!
Grace to you!
Posted by: Christian Commando
Heres a simpler form to express what I mean't in my last post here-
God is working to bring the "Body of Christ" into unity for one common goal, even tho God may work thru each individual child differently to achieve thier part of that service for God, as God knows best for each of us.
this is evident by the growth of active christians in service for God rising from alittle more than 20% of the Body, to just over 30% now, in more than 10 years time.
God Bless!!
Posted by: GODS Grace
Christian Commando,
I appreciate your patience regarding my reply. Things have been exstremely busy lately. This morning I had a second to reread over the ministry situation you described above and it makes since. As always your statements are valued and I agree forced conformity can be unhealthy...
It seemed to me that this dream had a cooperate implication, so I also e-mailed it to a member of our church. Her reply was very similar to yours and JeriRose. She did add a couple things being more familiar with area strongholds and our church life.
Here's what she shared;
Hi!
Fascinating dream!
Here are just a few ideas that came to mind as I reflected upon it:
-- Your position is a humble one -- on the outside, "almost hidden". You were in a position to receive a word. And the word has power.
-- "The sounds came back even louder as a wave through the people." -- The "wave" grabbed my attention -- I find I'm expecting some kind of wave to course through our body.
-- Unity would bring an atmosphere of celebration, music, joy and excitement in the Spirit. Also, great unity co-exists with great power.
-- "the word was so powerful he could hardly stand up" -- perhaps being "slain in the spirit".
-- "This building doesn't have a stage or platform, just a huge body of people responding in perfect unity." -- No one takes "center stage". All are participants -- none are spectators!
-- "three men in three separate parts of the building." 3 denotes that this dream is of God. The repetition emphasizes this.
-- "didn't seem to notice each other" -- not SELF-conscious and lost in their focus on Him.
-- "joyously moving swiftly PERFECTLY synchronized to music." -- moving in-tune with God and His purposes.
-- "auto pilot kicked on" -- God is in control. He's "the pilot".
-- one standing out because of "his beautiful bright red head." -- bright red can symbolize a fiery zeal, or "the blood".
God Bless!!!
GOD'S Grace
Posted by: Christian Commando
Well, thats a perfect example of the unity I refered to. Even tho JeriRose and I are not of your church there, we shared God's general understanding, but wow, its quite evident this sign- (word) you were given will have an intense impact, starting with your Church and flowing out thru the "Body". Thats wild!! Praise God!!
BTW- Forgive me for forgetting to mention this to you God's Grace, but you need to fasten your seat belt hehe. God has plans for you. Exciting ones. You do not understand as yet what being "avessel for God" means, until this new level and service for God kicks in.
Thank you and Praise you Lord Jesus, for choosing such Daughters with thier conviction for you to be the vessels and witnesses we men cannot be, in the ways those Daughters can!!!!
Both of you keep up your faith convictions. Its contagious hehe!!
God Bless!!
CC