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Part 1:Throwing Raisins/ Part 2: mic blowing in the wind

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Posted by: ruth1985

Hi, I'm this poster's (Ruth) sister in law. This dream was very weird to me, very unexpected. Well, it starts out that myself and my mom and sister in law are part of a women's retreat, where single and married, old and young women attend. I was looking forwar to an experience with the presence of God. then outside of the meeting place, small tents, indian huts type, were assembled. There were young girls inside, each had its own. Young guys would call out to them and the girls would throw handfuls of raisins back at them. It was all a joyous celebration. I didn't get this and I looked at them with a depreciative attitute, like they were doing something stupid. Then a friend, or acquatiance, James, appears and he's talling me something, like suggesting something with a big smile, like I was suppose to be part of this too. Apparently I take heed and make attempts to position myself to take part of the raisin event. I signal my sister in law and I take my sunday school material with me (I teach 5th- 9th graders at church). I was cutting out the figurines for the kids that were cut-outs of a big angel and a tall pillar of fire, a set for each kid. very interesting. So then I sat on a desk right next to a tent in which I knew that a guy that liked me and was praying for me was. and I waited. Part 1 is over.

Part 2: My family and I, (Church staff) were on a floor high above ground, 10th or 11th floor, on a concrete floor, barely any walls and under construction, apparently. We were all going to go down using a plain, wooden ladder. My brother went down the ladder first, no hassle. but then it was my turn and a mic appears in my hand. apparently I'm attempting to use it for balance or something but a strong wind takes over me and I'm out of control, swirving in the air. So I felt scared and try to get back to the concrete floor. My dad, the pastor says, See, that's why I don't take the mic. Part 2 is over.

Thanks, may God bless you. Dream interpretation is truly a gift to the body of Christ. God chooses this means many time because He can say so much with so little. Live in the Love of Christ.


Posted by: Christian Commando

Hello sister-in-law hehe. Interesting dreams. This is my take and I know I won't catch all things and will wait for God ti impress on others I know He will bring out more of this for you.

1st- The fact God shows you being at a "retreat", tells me this will be a lesson- (not as chastisement but for learning or understanding) for you to gain knowledge and wisdom about how to deal with some up coming if not already started, event.

2nd- apparently someone you know well, will get drawn into following or believing a deception- (friend or aquaintance).

3rd- the fact this "indian type event" starts while your at this retreat, tells me, God will be showing you progressively, the deception, as it unfolds, during this "learning period".

4th- Because there are a group of men and women, mostly young, it will be aimed at a younger generation possibly related to the fact you deal with younger kids for teaching in Church.

5th- Because the girls- (young ladies), are throwing raisins towards the guys, raisins are dried grapes. Grapes are related to God- (Vineyard- winepress, sickles for gathering the grapes, etc), it will be a doctrinal deception to appear as of God- (grapes), but be an imitation of Satan- (because they are raisins instead).

6st- It will have been taught to these youth and you will be approached by someone you know, who has adopted it as well, to get involved- (believe it).

7th- You will at first join in cautiously because you move over by a hut and know theres a guy interested in you. The fact tho, you question several things at first is a clear sign you don't see full biblical Truth in it.

8th- the fact its related to women trying to draw men with those raisins means something but not picking up on it. Amost like a false gift ,or a system of believing in works or something.

9th- The fact you start preparing for a class with the cut outs, tells me it will have to do with a Church class of children you teach, as you are doing this after you've moved over by that tent- (hut), and you also then, sat at or on a desk too.

Part 2-

1- The fact your on this tall building thats not quite finished being built, tells me this doctrine is a major one, but has only begun to be brought in onto the children and not well established with the children of the area yet.

2- The ladder tells me, because it reaches 11 or more floors up, represents the duration of time this doctrine will be around trying to be infiltrated into your Community.

3- The fact your brother has no problem going down it, means he does not accept the doctrine or pays any attention to it.

4- As you start to prepare going down it, this mic appearing in your hand, tells me you will see this doctrinal falsehood having direct impact on you, for trying to use it for balance tells me, you are working to try and intermingle this new false system in with God's.

5-Your climbing down the ladder and this wind blows you loose from it and clinging to the mic until you get back to the floor again, tells me, after your involved with this falsehood, God will have you fully realize whats going on and tho it will be a struggle, He will deliver you out of it.

6- Your father- Pastor telling you "see thats why I don't take the mic", is the end result of lesson learned for you, of checking out such things more thoroly before allowing yourself talked into following such things.

Whatever this will be, it will be something that has outer fringe signs that something is amiss, yet not prominant enough to alarm you from getting involved at first. But, as it progresses, God will show you no mistaking, and then you'll have a slightly tough time to get out of the deception, but He will deliver you.

And your Father/Pastor telling you about the mic, represents God showing you see, be more careful next time hehe.

These are my thoughts on this-

God bless!!


Posted by: ruth1985

Here's the sister in-law
You couldn't be more right and I'm going to name it.
I was very attracted by the IHOP( International House of Prayer) led by Mike Bickle organization, and impressed by the "apparent" maniffestation of the Spirit but God recently spoke top me about a Stange Fire ( Leviticus 10) and as I looked into it i completely cut off all strings of influence since then but it has only been like 2 weeks. The Prominent Age group of Ihop organization is 18- 25 years. This make sense with the cut outs because God spoke to me about that ministry as a a "strange fire" yet the cut outs were an angel and a pillar of fire and God will provide to me with the True Fire.

Thanks!! May God continue to use you!!


Posted by: Christian Commando

Your quite welcome!!

God bless!!


Posted by: Christian Commando

Well, from my own personal experiences from checking them out and personal exchanges with whoever the "contact us" responder was, I was very enlightened to some strange beliefs they hold to and demonstrate.

I have no doubt they are saved and reborn, but I seriously question particular aspects of thier doctrinal teachings and beliefs. While I have no quams of a more mature Christian dealing with them, having greater discernment to pick out that which is truely of God to that which is false, I would as a whole, recommend most of God's children to avoid this doctrinal system, to avoid possibly inadvertntly accepting some new hidden deception Satan may develope..

As to my questions to them, they simply believe Prophets of God don't have to be 100% accurate in thier Prophecies. Thats Wrong. God will always be 100% accurate. The only time prophecies are not, is when people are claiming such things on thier own, or thru Satan's influence.

Jesus declares "If these things were not true, I would have told you". So God will always be honest with us, telling us truth, not lies. God declares Satan is the father of lies, so claiming prophecies where only a percentage come true, are speaking doctrines of demons.

God Bless!


Posted by: ruth1985

Awesome Brother!

God Bless!


Posted by: bill & alexis

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Originally Posted by ruth1985
Hi, I'm this poster's (Ruth) sister in law. This dream was very weird to me, very unexpected. Well, it starts out that myself and my mom and sister in law are part of a women's retreat, where single and married, old and young women attend. I was looking forwar to an experience with the presence of God. then outside of the meeting place, small tents, indian huts type, were assembled. There were young girls inside, each had its own. Young guys would call out to them and the girls would throw handfuls of raisins back at them. It was all a joyous celebration. I didn't get this and I looked at them with a depreciative attitute, like they were doing something stupid. Then a friend, or acquatiance, James, appears and he's talling me something, like suggesting something with a big smile, like I was suppose to be part of this too. Apparently I take heed and make attempts to position myself to take part of the raisin event. I signal my sister in law and I take my sunday school material with me (I teach 5th- 9th graders at church). I was cutting out the figurines for the kids that were cut-outs of a big angel and a tall pillar of fire, a set for each kid. very interesting. So then I sat on a desk right next to a tent in which I knew that a guy that liked me and was praying for me was. and I waited. Part 1 is over.

Part 2: My family and I, (Church staff) were on a floor high above ground, 10th or 11th floor, on a concrete floor, barely any walls and under construction, apparently. We were all going to go down using a plain, wooden ladder. My brother went down the ladder first, no hassle. but then it was my turn and a mic appears in my hand. apparently I'm attempting to use it for balance or something but a strong wind takes over me and I'm out of control, swirving in the air. So I felt scared and try to get back to the concrete floor. My dad, the pastor says, See, that's why I don't take the mic. Part 2 is over.

Thanks, may God bless you. Dream interpretation is truly a gift to the body of Christ. God chooses this means many time because He can say so much with so little. Live in the Love of Christ.

Hello! Cool dreams. Your first dream is for your discernment. The raisins represent dried-up spiritual fruit. It seems there is some instruction you have for the younger ladies in regards how be spiritually fruitful - in a healthy way. The cut-outs of the angel and the pillar of fire is very interesting. It seems someone probably is praying for you in this respect.

Your second dream, sounds like a Heavenly impartation of a ministry to declare the word and breath of God. The wind is significant throughout the Bible...

Be in peace, and have a very blessed day in the LORD!
Semper Fi!
Bill & Alexis


Posted by: ruth1985

Thanks, well, yeah, I do think that I stand as an example to other ladies that take relationships lightly, just hook up with any guy. I believe good things are worth the wait, especially coming from God. and the ministry, well, there's nothing I desire more than to be used by the Spirit of God. Have been in the past and now but I'm eagerly desiring for more of Him, growing in freedom and in instruction of truth. ; ) Thanks, God Bless


Posted by: ruth1985

Oh, and guess what I was thinking about later... the mic.. copuld it be the Mike beekle? the mic is actually Mike, freedom in the Spirit/Wind yet out of control... also about prophets not being 100% accurate, your verse of Jesus was a blessing and another verse came to mind: "Believe in the Lord your God and you shall be established; believe and remain steadfast to His prophets and you shall prosper." (2 Chr. 20:20) Ok, God Bless ; )


Posted by: GODS Grace

Copied from your post above;
“Hi, I'm this poster's (Ruth) sister in law. This dream was very weird to me, very unexpected.”
This dream is weird and unexpected because it’s message is outside of your normal thinking. That is the reason for the very awkward feeling about choices or decision in your dream.
“Well, it starts out that myself and my mom and sister in law are part of a women's retreat, where single and married, old and young women attend. I was looking forward to an experience with the presence of God.”
The Holy Spirit is stirring within you a greater desire of more of his presences. God is going to use you, your mother and your sister in law to greatly impact His people. This ministry is focused on the women….” single and married, old and young women attend”This retreat suggests that your shared experiences will offer a place for contemplation and rest from uncertainties with in one’s thought. Titus 2: 3 says, Older women likewise are to exhibit behavior fitting for those who are holy, not slandering, not slaves to excessive drinking, but teaching what is good. 4 In this way they will train the younger women to love their husbands, to love their children, 5 to be self-controlled, pure, fulfilling their duties at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the message of God may not be discredited...
“then outside of the meeting place, small tents, Indian huts type, were assembled. There were young girls inside, each had its own. Young guys would call out to them and the girls would throw handfuls of raisins back at them. It was all a joyous celebration.”
Please notice that your focus is set on these girls who were outside of this retreat and alone. Notice what they are doing… These young women are trying to… build their homes and… feed the men.
“…Sustain me with raisins, Refresh me with apples, For I am lovesick..”
Your first reply to this is…
“ I didn't get this and I looked at them with a depreciative attitude, like they were doing something stupid.”
Yes, these young ones lack maturity, understanding, discernment and need to be shown and taught God’s instructions for making a home. God is seeing if you are will respond to these. It’s like when Jesus ask Peter…do you love me?...then feed my sheep… Loving Jesus as our Lord is not always easy.
With some thought… here’s your next reply…
“Thanks, well, yeah, I do think that I stand as an example to other ladies that take relationships lightly, just hook up with any guy. I believe good things are worth the wait, especially coming from God. and the ministry, well, there's nothing I desire more than to be used by the Spirit of God. Have been in the past and now but I'm eagerly desiring for more of Him, growing in freedom and in instruction of truth. ; ) Thanks, God Bless”
I agree with C.C. and Bill on this being about God using you for His ministry; C.C. typed, “..this will be a lesson- (not as chastisement but for learning or understanding) for you to gain knowledge and wisdom about how to deal with some up coming if not already started, event.”

Then a friend, or acquatiance, James, appears and he's talling me something, like suggesting something with a big smile, like I was suppose to be part of this too.
There’s little info given about this friend James.
So, I’ll assume since he is a friend that he is someone you trust? If this is true, then he could represent/confirm a voice of truth or prophecy to you personally.
Apparently I take heed and make attempts to position myself to take part of the raisin event. I signal my sister in law and I take my sunday school material with me (I teach 5th- 9th graders at church). I was cutting out the figurines for the kids that were cut-outs of a big angel and a tall pillar of fire, a set for each kid. very interesting.
God is encouraging you. He has confirmed you as an anointed and prepared teacher. You're able to show these young ones your godly example. The fire of God has made you strong and has completely consumed you with passion for him.
So then I sat on a desk right next to a tent in which I knew that a guy that liked me and was praying for me was. and I waited. Part 1 is over.
Very little is given about “smiling” James,or ”this guy” whom likes you,or even “ the raisin guys”.

I’m going to suggest that the women’s retreat will allow you’ll to learn together about male/female relationships and of course…respect, falling and staying in l o v e. He, He!

Most every woman alive has to learn to deals with these type of uncomfortable issues at some point. What issues? The "raisin guys" who are intoxicated by a women’s beauty. He! He!...I'm out of time, but may God Bless You and This ministry!...
GG


Posted by: Christian Commando

Yes Ruth, right on, and so was Bill, for, as a teacher of students, this places you also an example for other women in general, and yours, just as with all Leadership levels of God, dried up faith needs to be replentished, and how better than thru hearing the Word with a living example proving it?

God's Grace really insightful and packed with more info. Thank you my friend. A very welcome addition.

God Bless!!