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Posted by: Frederik

I'm having another real bad day, today.
Everything sucks so much. I am so fed up with this whole stuff.
I tried to be patient but I have reached the end of my patience.
I won't go on with this for another year or longer. Never hearing anything from God, never getting anything done and never getting a prayer answered.
I know one thing,if God was interested in me then he wouldn't play games with me.God is there but at the same time he's not there. He hides from me and is passive. For me it's like God doesn't exist. I get none of his love and he doesn't do anything for me.
He allows that I fail in everything I try and I really don't believe that it'll ever change.The christians which I know are lightyears away from where I am. They can talk in tongues, their prayers are answered and God is tangible for them but not for me.
I am so sick of this ! Either God will finally do something or I'm done with my christian pader.I cannot take this any longer. No matter what I try it's never enough. I fast, I waive a lot of "dirty" money because of him but it's never enough.I really don't know what else I could do and I think I'm not asking for too much when I ask God to finally reveal himself to me. Hiding makes no sense at all. In this state I'm not a help for anybody, even my prayers suck cause I have no faith and I am terribly mad.



Posted by: pickone

Do you remember when you asked "for a word, or something"? When I put that post to reply to this question, God let me know how He felt about you, so that is what I tried to discribe to you.

The very last sentence in that description were the words He put in my head to give to you.

I, myself, didn't understand what was happening (REALLY) until I finished writing that sentence.

I am not a prophet. But I met a prophet once, and he told me (or was it the Holy Spirit through him?) that I was not to try to understand. He said God understands what is going on. So maybe this is a message I should share with you?

I will tell you again now, and I hope you haven't already pushed the "ignore" button on my profile, that God is letting me feel again what He feels for you. I have a great big "ouch" in my heart. It feels like crying. I want to hold you in my arms forever. I love you.

Ask God to give you His heart, then maybe you can feel what He feels for others.

Never give up. How many people has he already sent to you with His words? How many people has He already comforted through you?

God has many voices. Try not to restrict Him to just one way of speaking, or you might miss out on many treasures for your soul. (I say this last thing because of my own experience, I just needed to open up more to Him.) Let Him teach you.



Posted by: marine

I don't know you but I am confused. I thought you were one of the leaders of this boad. I have been watching this prayer board for months now to see if it was real. It justs sounds like your having a really bad day.

You said you never get a prayer answered yet I read the following

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Originally Posted by pinkfrosting
I need prayer for my baby Hasia. I was at a friends house and she was in her car seat on the coffee table. I went to rock her, and the car seat flew off of the table and Hasia came out and hit her little head on the car seat and fell out. She needs prayer that no damage has been done, for there to be no injuries or brain or skull damage. Thanks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederik
I'll pray for her.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pinkfrosting
PRAISE GOD!!!! Hasia is doing fine thanks to God. It was so supernatural what happened last night, even the girl that I was with thought that it was physically impossible for that to even happen. The car seat accually slid right off the coffee table as if someone had pushed it. I am wondering if Chris or his friends are up to thier witch craft or curses again. I woke up feeling pretty sick this morning out of the blue. Hmm, but thank GOD that God is way BIGGER than satan. Please pray that satan will have NO victory over Hasia or my life, and I thank all that prayed for little Hasia and I last night. may God bless you one hundred fold. I feel under such demonic attack..
your sister in Christ,
Desiree

That is an answered prayer
So there must be something you prayed for that you do not have the answer yet.

Then I read another post
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Originally Posted by pickone
Frederik, every time I read something from you, my heart grins. I just absolutely love you to pieces. I want to squeeze you until your face turns redder! Do you know how much you are loved? Whole great big ole bunches! (whoops! Texas accent came through, sorry) My heart rejoices every time I think of your name! As a matter of fact, I don't think I've ever loved a child as much as I do you!
Remember, I am with you always, even unto the ends of the world.

That sounds like at least one person on this board cares about you.

Then I saw this

The is awarded to Frederik for always being there in prayer for the whole team. All of us from Jerry Gaffney Ministries want to thank you for your prayers and your care. We are in this battle for souls together and know we can not do it without your prayers.
That sounds like the Gaffney family really like you

So you see things are not as bad as they seem.
Whatever is bothering you will pass.

Semper Fi
Marine



Posted by: Frederik

I am not a prophet. But I met a prophet once, and he told me (or was it the Holy Spirit through him?) that I was not to try to understand. He said God understands what is going on.
So maybe this is a message I should share with you?


Sorry, but I really cannot hear all these great prophecies about me anymore.
Sounds like I'm going to save the world oneday....
I only care about now and not about 10 years from now.
If God really is so sad then why doesn't he simply do something ?
This makes absolutely no sense. I really cannot pay to much attention too things which people think God told them.
Many people say a lot of things about God, I have never seen that it's true. Maybe everything is just fake.
I have never seen somebody get healed, maybe if I really got in touch with those christians I'd find out that everything is just nonsense.
Maybe everything is just based on emotions and coincidences. I don't know what to think anymore.
I believe a lot of things. Tell me something and I buy it, that's how I am.
Maybe I only believe in God cause I am naive.


How many people has He already comforted through you?

I did that. Simply because I'm a nice guy, that's all.
Why do you have to interpret so much in things ?


That is an answered prayer
So there must be something you prayed for that you do not have the answer yet.


Coincidence. Some people are lucky, others not.


That sounds like the Gaffney family really like you

It's not about people liking me, it's about me and God.
God doesn't give me much proof of his perfect love.



Posted by: Frederik

I forgot something:

I don't know God any better than a nominal christian.
I despise these christians, but I am not a bit closer to God than them.
There are so many hypocrites out there and I don't wanna be like them but instead of rewarding this God doesn't do anything.
He should be happy that I'm interested in him.



Posted by: cgirl

People are 'lightyears' ahead because they are in submission unto Jesus even though they feel like you. They don't give up, they don't throw fits, they don't pout. We ALL deal with these feelings, not just you man.

So if you deny Christ, will things get any better? You said you did this for him or that, or not taking dirty money because of the Lord. The Bible says our righteousness is as filthy rags.

It's time to put away childish things. So enough of these temper tantrums already.

Sorry about the tough love.



Posted by: JeriRose12

Come on, Federik!!!

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son....

Don't say He never did anything for You! Don't say He never showed You his love! How is dying for you on the cross so you could be saved game playing? That's in your face love!!!

What's with this "He allows me to fail in everything I try?" He also allows you to fail at being positive!!! Federik, it's up to you to be positive!!! You've got that choice in your own control. If you keep talking negative, how are you ever going to think anything positive is going on???

Death and life are in the power of the tongue, And those who love it will eat its fruit (Proverbs 18:21)

You'll eat good fruit, if you speak positively!!! It says in the Bible to think on good things:

8 Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy--meditate on these things. (Philippians 4:8)

If you think good things you will speak good things. Otherwise, it's: Garbage in, garbage out!!! You need to do what I do on line. Delete what I don't like and empty the trash!!!

~JeriRose~



Posted by: JG

Hello Guys:

Looks like Frederik is having a rotten day.

He forgets that when God spoke to Abraham he sent a man.
He forgets that when God spoke to Hanna he sent a priest
He forgets that when God spoke to the world about Jesus he sent John the bapitst.

He forgets that when he wanted to tell Pharoh to "let my people go" He sent a man, (moses)

Frederik is in the young stage of Christianity of needing proof.
He has not learned the real joy of walking by faith not sight.
Most Christians go through this stage.
Frederik is just more open about his feelings.

Can you imagine how many times God must get these types of prayers on a daily basis.

I want to thank all of you for staying in there with Frederik

Marine you supprised us. You must have been on the sight to be able to remind Frederik of the love God has placed on our hearts here for him
Thank you for your prayer. I was a marine also so Semper Fi my friend. Welcome Home.

Frederik, God shows his love through people.
God shows His love through His Word.
God shows His love through His Son. He died for you.
God shows His love through His forgiveness.

One of these days you will see those little miracles then you will see Him.

Your Friend
Jerry



Posted by: Dreamweaver

Frederik,
I had one of those days yesterday. Guess what, it passed. Your's will too.

We love you,

Jan



Posted by: StarChilde

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederik
I'm having another real bad day, today.
Everything sucks so much. I am so fed up with this whole stuff.
I tried to be patient but I have reached the end of my patience.
I won't go on with this for another year or longer. Never hearing anything from God, never getting anything done and never getting a prayer answered.
I know one thing,if God was interested in me then he wouldn't play games with me. GOD DOES NOT PLAY GAMES, THAT IS NOT FROM GOD! God is there but at the same time he's not there. He hides from me and is passive. For me it's like God doesn't exist. I get none of his love and he doesn't do anything for me.
He allows that I fail in everything I try and I really don't believe that it'll ever change.The christians which I know are lightyears away from where I am. They can talk in tongues, their prayers are answered and God is tangible for them but not for me.
I am so sick of this ! Either God will finally do something or I'm done with my christian pader.I cannot take this any longer. No matter what I try it's never enough. I fast, I waive a lot of "dirty" money because of him but it's never enough.I really don't know what else I could do and I think I'm not asking for too much when I ask God to finally reveal himself to me. Hiding makes no sense at all. In this state I'm not a help for anybody, even my prayers suck cause I have no faith and I am terribly mad.

You know what? God never said that we would not have bad days ever again just because we are Christians. God never promised it would be easy, in fact we are attacked more than most because we ARE making a stand for Jesus, for God... friend, satan would not be bothering you if you were not doing anything, so that must mean that you are doing something GOOD! Come against the power of confusion, ask God for wisdom, because all who ask, He will give it to! That includes you!God reveals Himself to you everyday, but you want this huge-cannot-deny-it-right-in-your-face-miracle or sign from God.You know whose lying to you...the father of lies...satan the deceiver. God does not bring or make confusion... guess who does?

Joel Osteen of Lakewood church, is preaching on this very thing even as i type...coincidence? I think not!Set your mind on what God says about you... not what lies satan has. Your own thinking is keeping you in bondage, is keeping you from realizing the full potential you have in and through God and Christ Jesus.
I join in agreement w/ my sisters and brothers here, for this spirit of denial of God's working in your life, to be gone... where you might see how blessed you actually are..you got to keep your mind in an attitude of faith..and what is faith?

- Living Bible
Hebrews 11:1 What is faith? It is the confident assurance that something we want is going to happen. It is the certainty that what we hope for is waiting for us, even though we cannot see it up ahead.

Did you get that? It is the CONFIDENCE we are gonna get what we hope for even though we cannot SEE it! Just because you cannot see it, does not mean God is not working in your life!

You need to get your thinking in line with God's thinking, and pull down the strongholds, the wrong thinking patterns... I hope your day is better~ and not only that~ I pray it is BLESSED!~



Posted by: jsustaita

When Jesus was tempted into the wilderness, Satan told him to throw himself down, and Satan quoted Scripture saying angels from God would save him. Jesus Replied "It is written that you shall not test the lord your God." That is Faith. You know it is there, but to demand a miracle to prove God's already Ultimate Truth is folly. Just Trust God Frederick. Jesus Loves you so much, so much that even if you try to deny this, his love will only increase. I tried to deny God, let me tell you Frederick, it is hell on earth. For four years I felt the most painful void in my heart, a void that caused me to cry to sleep often. Everyday I felt a knocking at the door to my heart. I remember asking how does God talk to me. How do I know he is there. Frederick, the only thing Christ asked of people was Faith in Him. If you believe and have faith wholly in the greatest miracle of salvation, then realize that this in itself is a miracle. They are not always visible Frederick. Several people may say otherwise, But I have never once heard the voice of God as a booming voice out of a thunderous cloud. What I have heard, is him speaking to my heart. I hear him speaking to me while I read the bible. Sometimes, I just flip the page, and my eyes instantly dart to a specific passage that strikes a melodous chord with my heart. And I know its God. Faith Frederick. Have Faith. It is written, God shall never Leave you nor Forsake you. Joshua 1. He is there standing right beside you Frederick. Just trust him. All that you must do, is trust him. Read the Psalms. I am going to pray for you Frederick, open your heart to God.



Posted by: Frederik

Quote:
Originally Posted by JG
Frederik, God shows his love through people.
God shows His love through His Word.



It's funny to hear this from you.
I wonder where you were if God had never ever talked to you, I bet you wouldn't be where you are right now.
Shall I reduce the living God to a few people which tell me that they like me ? Come on ! I don't know God at all, I have no clue what he thinks about me and how he really is. When God is really up there then I don't understand this behavior. Why should I read in the bible and do all these things when I know that it'll always be like this ? Then I will not do anything more than it takes to be saved. Then I'll pray once a day and that's it. And I don't need proof. I just want God to finally be there for me, that's all. When I'm sad or depressed God doesn't do anything at all for me. That's like me living in Africa and whenever the poor children come to me asking me for food I offer them my shoulder and tell them a few encouraging things instead of giving them food.
This is how I feel. I don't want these "God loves you so much" phrases from anybody ! The whole church has limited God to a being which doesn't do anything in these times. You can argue about God and make up theories about God but never expect God to do something, this is how the majority of christians think. Is it better for me to become like them and see God as untouchable ? Is this really better ? At least it would spare me a lot of frustration.
There are many people which God talks to and which he reveals himself to, but they seem to be better than me cause I am not worth it.

He has not learned the real joy of walking by faith not sight.


Oh yes, I am so looking forward to the time when I won't be upset about unanswered prayers anymore. I cannot wait for the day when I won't expect anything from God any longer, then I'll be like all the nominal christians and I'll go to church once a week and smile.
This will be great.

When not even I as a christian am able to find God how can I expect atheists to find him ? This would be so hypocritical. Knock and you will be opened.... is this not more than a phrase ?

And why does everybody limit God to a nice feeling ?
"Oh today I woke up and had a nice feeling that must have been God, thank you God ! This is even better than last week when I saw a butterfly when I went to work, thank you God for this butterfly !"
This is so ridiculous. Do you think that's all which God has to offer ? A nice feeling every few weeks. if that's all then I'm really disillusioned.
But I'm not the first christian who simply gives up cause this oh so great love was never tangible for him. But God doesn't care about me anyway he sits up there and does nothing, like always.
But I also don't have a real choice cause if I leave God then I'll go to hell, this is what I call extortion. If people were immortal then nobody would need God. God wants us to be depending on him, that's all. This way he makes sure that people believe in him cause they are scared of hell. This isn't free will.



Posted by: Frederik

I wish I could hurt God and pay him back for all the suffering which he causes in me, it's all his fault ! God says of himself that he's just. I can also say of myself that I'm just but this proves nothing.



Posted by: Donm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederik
I wish I could hurt God and pay him back for all the suffering which he causes in me, it's all his fault ! God says of himself that he's just. I can also say of myself that I'm just but this proves nothing.


Frederik - I hope that in some way that the following will minister to you...

At the beginning of his novel Of Human Bondage, Somerset Maughm tells the story of a crippled boy who is about to go to school for the first time. For weeks he prays that God would heal him before the first day of school. When the morning of the first day of school arrives, he wakes up excited and filled with anticipation that this is the day that the miracle will occur. He throws off his covers and is disappointed to see that he is still crippled. He becomes angry with God for being so silent. And from then on he turns to superstitions and unhealthy relationships and all kinds of bad habits in response to God's seeming indifference.

In my own Christian life one of the hardest things for me to deal with is the silence of God. Maybe that is true for you, too. By silence I don't mean an inability to hear an audible voice. I don't think most of us really expect that. By "silence of God," I mean those times when we can't feel God's presence in our lives, or we can't believe that he is taking care of us.


Maybe we go through a time of doubt in our faith, and we ask God to speak to us in some way, to help us with our doubts. And he doesn't do it, he seems silent.

Or maybe we are facing some crisis, or we feel lonely, and we ask God to intervene and he doesn't. He feels silent, sometimes for years.

Or sometimes we just get so distracted with all the things that are going on in our lives that we wouldn't know God's voice even if we heard it because we just have too much going on.

In all of these different ways I think God is silent to us, or he at least feels silent.

This "silence" also happened to Saul. God seemed silent to Saul. Of all the people in the Bible, I think Saul's story is the saddest. Throughout his life God just seems silent to him. God chooses him to be Israel's first King (a job he doesn't want). At first he is successful, but then he disobeys God, and God says, "Because of this I no longer want you to be King, I reject you as King." He doesn't reject Saul as a person but God says, "I no longer want you to be King." And Saul spends the rest of his life fighting that. He tries to kill David, who is the next King in line, and he fights God on his decision all the way through, trying to hang on to his throne. And all the while God just seems silent.

What do we do when God seems silent? I think there are a couple of things we can learn from this story.

First, when God seems silent we need to remain obedient to God and not run to the devil for an answer.

Saul does here what I do and maybe what you do when God seems silent. In one way or another we give up on God and turn to other things for an answer. Now in Saul's case he goes to the occult. I don't do that personally which probably comes as a relief to you since I'm an evangelist. But I do other things. We all do; we give up on God. And we turn instead to habits or unhealthy relationships or addictions which feel good at the time but in no way can help us hear the voice of God.


I've noticed that, when people begin to doubt their faith, they often stop going to church, they stop praying, they stop reading the Bible because they no longer feel motivated to.

Or I have noticed that when my friends, for instance, are engaged in some kind of destructive behavior or some kind of sinful behavior, they stop talking to me. They will talk to other people, coworkers, other friends, but they won't tell me about it, because I don't think they want to hear the Christian perspective.

Then they wonder why God is silent. God is silent because they have gone to places that cannot possibly help them hear the voice of God.

Now I want to be very clear here. I am not saying that if God seems silent to you right now it is because you have sinned. I don't want to say that. If sin were what caused us to experience the silence of God then none of us would ever experience God at all. What I do want to say is this. When God seems silent, that is when we are most susceptible to giving up on him and turning to habits and relationships that will only make the problem worse.

Why does Saul think he's going to hear the voice of God from a witch? This can only make the problem worse. We hear God best when we obey him. When God seems silent it is even more important that we continue to go to worship, be in prayer, obey him, and be in Christian community, and in doing that we will hear the voice of God again.


The second thing we can learn from the story of Saul is this:

When God seems silent we need to let go of the past and expect God to speak to us in new ways.

Sometimes God seems silent because we are expecting Him to speak to us in the same old circumstances, or the same old people he always has before. That's Saul's problem here. Saul is living in the past. God has always spoken through the prophet Samuel before. So Saul just assumes that God will continue to speak through the prophet Samuel. There is just one problem. Samuel is dead. This is an impediment. Saul is living in the past. Sometimes when God is silent it is because we are returning to a dead thing, and expecting God to speak to us there again.

For instance, we go through a time in our life where we experience a spiritual high; maybe we have gone to a retreat or something, where we have experienced God very intensely.

Or the opposite is true. We are in a crisis and God seems very real.

So when things return to normal it doesn't seem like God is talking anymore. That may not be true at all. It may mean that God is trying to say a new thing to us in a new way.

We do this with people. Certain relationships, certain friends, certain pastors, seem to communicate God to us better than others. Then when those people are gone in our lives for some reason we think that God is not speaking. It might not be true. It might be that God is trying to say a new thing to us, in a new way.

We live in the past and we limit God when we expect him to speak to us through the same people, the same circumstances, the same pastors, the same music, etc. God may want to speak to us in a new way.

A third thing I think we can take from Saul's story is this:

When God seems silent we need to ask ourselves is God silent or do we have a hearing problem.

Sometimes what we mean when we say God is silent is that we don't like what he is saying. In this story, God is not silent at all. He has, in fact, been speaking very loudly for the past thirteen chapters. Over and over again he has said, "Saul, I don't want you to be king, I don't want you to be king." He has said it over and over. Saul doesn't like what he is hearing. That is not what he wants to hear from God. That is not what he expects to hear from God. So he says that God is silent.

Often what I mean when I say God is silent is that he is not saying what I want him to say. I want this relationship. I want this experience. I want this achievement.

And God says, "I don't want that for you." And I say, "That's not the right answer God. You must not be talking."

The real problem is I just don't like what I am hearing.

Which brings us to a fourth thing from Saul:

When God seems silent we need to accept as a blessing that which he is trying to give us and not doubt his goodness.

Because God does not tell Saul exactly what he wants to hear, Saul assumes that God is mean, or that God is some kind of a brute. That might not be true at all. God in fact might be trying to bless Saul. God in fact may be trying to give something good to Saul.

Saul here reminds me of my daughter when she was very young. As an infant she hated to take a baths. Whenever we would bathe her she would scream and holler like it was the end of the world. She would look at us with these pleading eyes that seem to say, "Don't you see I am in misery?" And we just keep bathing her.

From her perspective we probably seemed silent or indifferent to her pain, and from the looks of things it seems to create in her a kind of existential crisis. She seems to be thinking things like, "on't they hear me screaming? Why are they so silent? Why don't they answer me? Why do loving parents let bad things happen to good babies? Maybe parents don't exist. If parents existed would this be happening to me?" Now, from her perspective, we seem silent and indifferent. But from our perspective all we're trying to do is make her clean.

Saul's problem is that he was never comfortable inside the blessings that God was trying to give him.

God wanted Saul to be the first King of Israel.

That is a blessing.

God wanted him to prepare the way for David.

That is a blessing.

God wanted Saul to know him better and become more like him.

That is a blessing.

God wanted all those things for Saul, but the only thing Saul wanted was to hang on to his throne.

It reminds me of the movie Amadeus. Amadeus tells the story of two composers, Salieri and Mozart. Salieri is insanely jealous of Mozart's talent and he hates God because God blessed Mozart and not Salieri, with musical skill. The problem with Salieri is that he could not see the blessing that God had given him. Even though Mozart had all of the musical talent, in all of Europe, Salieri was the only person to recognize Mozart's genius. God had given Salieri a different blessing. But he ruined his life because he couldn't accept it as a blessing.

You have to wonder here what would have happened to Saul if he just would have accepted as a blessing what God was trying to do. He wouldn't have been King, that is true. But he wouldn't have been killed the next day in battle, either. That would have been good. Maybe he could have become a trusted advisor to David. Maybe he could have retired and bought a sailboat and sailed around the Sea of Galilee. It could have been great. God was trying to give him something good but from Saul's perspective God was just indifferent and silent. When God seems silent we need to ask, "What are you trying to give me," and to try to accept it as a blessing even if at the moment it hurts.

Which brings me to the last point I want to make about this story.

When God seems silent it's because he's about to do something bigger than we can perceive.

Just like there are frequencies of sounds that dogs can hear but humans can't because it is so much higher. Sometimes I think God speaks to us in a frequency that is just too high for us to pick up on. Because he is doing something bigger than we can perceive.

From Saul's perspective all God is doing is taking his kingdom away. But really God is doing a whole lot more. He is putting David on the throne. He is going to become Israel's greatest King. And from him will come a line of kings that will eventually produce Jesus. God is doing way more than taking Saul's throne away. God is fulfilling his promises to save the world. And if Saul could only see that bigger picture he might be more at peace.

The moment in history when God was most silent came at the cross. When Jesus cries, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me," in that moment God is so silent that not even the Son of God could hear his voice. But the reality was that God wasn't silent then at all. The reality was that God was actually thundering out his promises.‹ God was actually shouting out his redemption for the world. But at a frequency that no human ear could hear or no human eye could see. At his most silent moment God was roaring out his love for you and for me. Jesus is the resounding answer to the question, is God still speaking to me? The answer is, "Absolutely yes." When God seems silent it is because he is about to do something bigger than we can perceive in the moment.

It is like the ending of the Hallelujah Chorus in Handel's Messiah. I love the Messiah and I look forward to hearing it every Christmas, and I especially love the Hallelujah Chorus. There is that great moment at the end where you get that string of Hallelujah, and then suddenly all the music stops and there is a long pause.

Every time I hear that pause, I always get worried because it always seems to last longer than it should. I start to get a little anxious. Maybe the conductor has forgotten something. Maybe he sneezed and blew the music off the podium. It is always a little awkward, and it always lasts longer than what I am comfortable with. It is a moment of anxiety, but it is also a moment of anticipation. I am waiting. And then the conductor's wand comes down and the music comes crashing back in and the choir comes back in with that one last final Hallelujah. It is bigger, and it is louder, and it is better than anything that has come before. It is great.

That's what the silence of God is. It's not silent at all. It's just a grand pause. It's just a holy caesura. It's a moment of anticipation that sometimes lasts longer than we wish it would, but that always signals that something bigger and something better is about to happen. And if we have never experienced that silence of God, then our God is too small because he has never done anything bigger than we can perceive in the moment.

Does God seem silent to you right now?

In your doubts, in your worries, in your sin, in your loneliness?

Does God seem silent to you?

It is because he is about to do something bigger, something better than you can even imagine. Things which If you were told, things which, if you could hear them now, you would not even believe.

God's silence is always just a holy moment of anticipation between what he has done and the bigger thing he is about to do in your life.

I pray that this has ministered to you Frederik.



Posted by: Soteria777

I don't know about Frederik, but that sure blessed MY socks off!!! Wow, that is just profound and quite amazing!!! Thank so much for sharing that Godly wisdom! I am going to copy it and keep it for future reading when I need it!!

You are surely blessed of God Donnie!!!!



Posted by: cgirl

At least you are honest, most of us hide these feelings and put that smiley face on. Be encouraged Freddie...! I too have said the same exact things you are saying now. God will bring you through like he did to me. I don't know how many times I said to God I'll leave you if you don't do this or that. I don't know how I didn't get hit with a lightning bolt because of the things I said to him. I think it's a miracle I'm still alive. Some how he brought me through those angry times. The Lord is slow to anger and has grace, mercy and forgiveness even when we shoot our mouth off like that. He knows what we'll say before we say it, He is patient with us.

It's okay to be angry, but direct it to the right thing. It's that ***** enemy the devil that we have to shout at. You have authority over him through Jesus, rebuke him, bind him, cast him out! He is the one behind all these doubts, confusion and malice. He is the one that needs to be hurt.

Galations 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other...

The things I hear you say is the flesh. The flesh wants gratification right here and now. It doesn't want to wait for the answers.

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that comes to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that DILIGENTLY seek him.

John 15:5 ...for without me ye can do nothing.
This includes the Christian walk. When I felt like you, I said to the Lord help me to believe, help me to have faith I can't do it! Give me patience and take away this disappointment and anger please help me now! And he did.

When you walk in obedience God WILL give you those spiritual gifts! God wanted me to attend cleansing streams. I didn't for a long time, finally I obeyed God and went to the classes. The FIRST WEEK I was there, I was still confused and angry. But when I walked in obedience, I started to have Words of Knowledge for people. I was in healing class in my church, and when I prayed for people, they started to get healed. One woman had a leg longer than the other, when I laid hands on her it grew out to it's normal size. When I stepped in obedience, I started to have a deeper understanding of God's Word when I read it.

It doesn't take months or years to go light years into God, you can take a quantum leap this week! The enemy knows how much potential power you have, and he wants so bad to train wreck you before you get to that part of obedience in God, because when you do, the devil is going to lose big time once you get that revelation! So he tries everything in his power to separate you and God.

James 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he SHALL LIFT YOU UP.



Posted by: chalfdozen

frederik Stand strong brother!!! YOU are a child of GOD the All MIGHTY!
Our Father spoke a universe into existance! Some we have the privlage of seeing Him work {like with you baby girl} & some times we have to look for the help. This week I can testify to you He IS there he does care. Like you i had an injured child with head tramma, my van broke down taking him to the hospital just as they were going to send him 200 miles away to Denver my husband fix the van. The miracles were many to get this done but attack hit again and the van broke down again. My son as an answere to prayer did not have to go to Denver and our paster had just gotten his Knock about car going and let us use it. Then I called on my earthly father for help. My heavenly father helped my earthly father with out him even knowing it. My dad went to an action and got us a van for$450.00 and a man came late and was asking if the sale was over. Dad said ya and the man ask what he bought the van for. The man said he would give $1800.00 for it. So you see my heavenly father did alot of miracles I could see but a few I could. Such as, making a man late for an action sale.
some times we get caught up in what we do see and for get all thing work together for the greater good of our Father. Even when we don't see or feel Him, but He still does whats best for us.
Some times we keep asking God what can you do for me instead of God my awsome Father what can I do for you.
As for christians being light years ahead of you, there is no such thing. You love Jesus you believe in HIM as our savior remember that. Remember also this is not our world we just have to get through it. Our eternal world is yet to come. We love you brother and we all get discouraged but take heart thats why we are here. A sister in our Lord Jesus.



Posted by: Dahlia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederik
I'm having another real bad day, today.
Everything sucks so much. I am so fed up with this whole stuff.
I tried to be patient but I have reached the end of my patience.
I won't go on with this for another year or longer. Never hearing anything from God, never getting anything done and never getting a prayer answered.
I know one thing,if God was interested in me then he wouldn't play games with me.God is there but at the same time he's not there. He hides from me and is passive. For me it's like God doesn't exist. I get none of his love and he doesn't do anything for me.
He allows that I fail in everything I try and I really don't believe that it'll ever change.The christians which I know are lightyears away from where I am. They can talk in tongues, their prayers are answered and God is tangible for them but not for me.
I am so sick of this ! Either God will finally do something or I'm done with my christian pader.I cannot take this any longer. No matter what I try it's never enough. I fast, I waive a lot of "dirty" money because of him but it's never enough.I really don't know what else I could do and I think I'm not asking for too much when I ask God to finally reveal himself to me. Hiding makes no sense at all. In this state I'm not a help for anybody, even my prayers suck cause I have no faith and I am terribly mad.


Frederik, believe me, you are not the only one who feels like giving up right now. I am in the same boat with you. The only thing is: I am afraid to give up because If we don't have God then what DO we have? That scares me even more! Iwas positive over this last weekend, that my miracle was at hand. On Thursday of last week I was so depressed and so sure that God was tired of my praying non stop that I was afraid to pray. But I was desperate so I wrote a letter to God. I begged Him to please give me some unmistakable sign as to whether I should sop praying for restoration, just accept that my marriage was over, and move on. Less than two hours later I received a letter in the mail telling me of two prophecies that would be fulfilled for me within 48 hours. One of them was for peace and yes ... restoration! It said that God could change the heart of the person who was hurting me! So, of course, I am praising God and waiting for my miracle - only it never happened - instead my husband came home today and told me he is supposed to get an apartment tomorrow! So, how do I feel? I feel like giving up, just like you do. But, Frederik, if we give up then Satan is the ultimate winner! We can't let Satan win Frederik. When you feel most like giving up, when you feel the least like praying, pray the most! I'll be praying for you. May God bless and keep you!



Posted by: cgirl

Alright, enough talk let's agree that things will turn around for him and his church there in Germany immediately.

Dear Heavenly Father, we praise and love you. I ask in Jesus name that you would encourage and strengthen Frederik and that he wouldn't give up so easily. Give him a godly attitude like Job, that he will love you no matter what happens or doesn't happen. Let his walk turn from ritual to relationship. We know Christianity is not dos and dont's but an intimate relationship, let Frederik have that with you starting today even now. Fill him with your Holy Spirit and baptize him with Fire. Open his eyes, enable him to see and walk by faith. Empower him to walk in all your ways. Show him how much you love him and hear him. Help him to see in the Spirit not in the flesh. Revive his church, his city and country as well. Let the church there become alive and doing exploits for the kingdom of God, let many come to the Lord because of them. Lord God, in your presence there is fullness of joy and peace that passes all understanding, give that Frederik as well. I ask that he will not give into the flesh but the spirit. And for him to submit and humble himself before you, so that you are able to lift him up according to your Word, amen and amen.



Posted by: MASZOO

Oh Frederik, there is so much that I could say, but you already know it, so I am just going to say this...

There has been several times in my life where I feel like God is ignoring me (one of those times is now) I wonder why I am doing this if God is not listening. I have gone there times where I have questioned God's existence. Sometimes I have to look beyond my little picture of life, then I see God at work. Sometimes I have to keep reminding myself that God does hear me and that He does love me. Sometimes seeing what God is doing in the lives of other people make me sad because God is not doing it in my life. Sometimes it seems like everybody else is getting healed, everybody else is getting filled with the Holy Spirit, everybody else is speaking in toungues, everybody but me. But that is not so, the 'everybody' is just a few people, I have to remind myself that my turn is coming. I have to remind myself that God always keeps his promises, that gives me the hope to keep trusting in him everyday. You also need to remember that God works on his own schedual, not ours.

I hope this helps a little bit,
Jessica M.



Posted by: Frederik

* don

It's not about a little silence. I have never experienced anything different. I have always been in the desert.
And if God wasn't done with me by now, then I bet he's done with me now. Yesterday I was so angry and I had such really vile thoughts that I hate God and want to pay him back etc. I become so angry and my thoughts become autonomous and I can't do anything to calm and then I have thoughts like: "I wanna pay God back" or "I'll tell the holy spirit that I don't give a ..... about him". Often I'm shocked at myself cause I can have so evil thoughts.I think he's done with me. But I never know cause God never says a thing.I have been angry so often and every time I'm angry I screw up my "relation" with God a bit more. On the one hand I'm this nice christian who thinks that he loves God and the next day I hate God and want to pay him back. Something has to be wrong here. I don't know what to think about myself if I really loved God then I couldn't have such thoughts. I also don't think that God has much understanding for my behavior.
I don't think that God wants to have an evil,jealous,angry child like me. God wants children which are patient and always nice and never think bad of him, this is something which I'm not.



Posted by: StarChilde

Today was a full day for me... lots of errands,things to get done, and company on top of all that, so I was not able to get here, and post as I would've liked to. Now, that doesn't mean that I wasn't thinking of the prayers on here, the prayer warriors... I was... praying and believing for miracles, works and wonders in all of it.
I listen to Christian radio, and today Adrian Rogers had a powerful message, and it was similiar to what you are going through... David had separated himself from God,his was due to his sins though, the killing of Uriah, so that David could "justify" his sins... now David had not confessed his sins... and he said that his bones had become weary, and Pastor Rogers interpreted it... when ppl who are Christians, separate themself from God... they feel old...weary..worn out...- King James
Psalms 22:14. I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels." and it was in this same chapter that David foretold of the way Jesus would die...Psalms 51 is David's confession, asking for forgiveness... and he says...
-- Living Bible
Psalms 51:12 Restore to me again the joy of your salvation, and make me willing to obey you."
- King James
Psalms 51:12 Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.

Get that? the JOY OF YOUR SALVATION! Remember how that felt? I think when ppl get wrapped up with something they think that they should feel, then don't...that opens the door, and if a person ain't watching...well anything could come in.Look what is happening..you are calling God a liar!
God is faithful to Himself!!!- King James

Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it."

You have a lot of ppl praying for you in this, so please hearken yourself to the Holy Spirit, and put down the deceiver back where he belongs..UNDER YOUR FEET!!!



Posted by: ALFA

FEDERIK LET ME TELL YOU HOW WONDERFUL GOD IS.

HE IS SO WONDERFUL because he brought you to this Prayer Board! You now have friends in us. Ask yourself How may people out there who are lonely and do not have anyone to sher their problems with. You have a whole family from across the GLOBE to talk to right now. I am in Africa in tiny country called Zimbabwe right at the southern end of the continent of Africa sharing with you today. GOD IS SO WONDEFUL!!!

THROUGH YOUR prayers you have saved lives, brought people back to HIM. Don`t you get it, the devil wants you to believe that you are worth nothing BUT GOD IS SAYING YOUR ARE WORTH MORE THAN MANY SPARROWS! ISN`T HE WONDERFUL!!!!!!

GOD HAS AREADY done something to you today. He has sent me to be with you on the net today. Do you know how many request there are today. I have been driven to your THREAD. GOD IS SOOOOOOO WONDERFUL!!!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederik
I'm having another real bad day, today.
Everything sucks so much. I am so fed up with this whole stuff.
I tried to be patient but I have reached the end of my patience.
I won't go on with this for another year or longer. Never hearing anything from God, never getting anything done and never getting a prayer answered.
I know one thing,if God was interested in me then he wouldn't play games with me.God is there but at the same time he's not there. He hides from me and is passive. For me it's like God doesn't exist. I get none of his love and he doesn't do anything for me.
He allows that I fail in everything I try and I really don't believe that it'll ever change.The christians which I know are lightyears away from where I am. They can talk in tongues, their prayers are answered and God is tangible for them but not for me.
I am so sick of this ! Either God will finally do something or I'm done with my christian pader.I cannot take this any longer. No matter what I try it's never enough. I fast, I waive a lot of "dirty" money because of him but it's never enough.I really don't know what else I could do and I think I'm not asking for too much when I ask God to finally reveal himself to me. Hiding makes no sense at all. In this state I'm not a help for anybody, even my prayers suck cause I have no faith and I am terribly mad.




Posted by: Prince6881

Hello Frederick, a couple years ago I began to drift away in my faith because I saw so many around me not doing what they were taught to do thru the Word and sermons. I started writing a book and as I was reading your postings this chapter came to mind. I have many things to be woeful of, wondering if God has heard my prayers or is going to answer them. Why is my child blind, why is my house being foreclosed when I've used it to run children ministries and summer camps, and why am I not married or to the one I want or believe is God's perfect plan for my life? Where is GOD in all this? I first came to the board last week with the prayers for my home, that same day after prayer from dreamweaver and others, I was given more time to work out a solution to my predicaments. I am still praying and waiting while others look on in tense anticipation. What I am learning is how my determination to stand firm with my convictions that its all about GOD and not me is witnessing to so many nonbelievers and young christians. My mess is becoming God's message and I Praise HIM!!

Chapter Twenty Seven THE LAST WORD
**For I know the plans I have for you saids the Lord..Jer 29:11-14**

“Ruin, ruin, ruin everywhere! Do they know what they have done?”, muttered the leader of the underground under his breath. His kingdoms everywhere had been trampled by the prayers of the believers who had once again rode the revival train. Humans were beginning to unite in churches as they no longer settled for living lives as hyprocrites. Governments reinstituted prayer back in schools and encouraged their nations to serve under One God. Lying was no longer tolerated. Severe hemorrhaging of the underworld erupted as massive crumbling in all the major sectors sentenced leaders to unknown regions where no one ever returns. As the fleshy beings walked around with their holy Word and lived it out, the darkness faded..
The Prince of Darkness stepped onto the balcony of time and addressed the Creator of all things, HIS Excellency, The Great I AM!
“Alright Father, I may have has a little setback but its not over yet!”, the prince boasted.
“My fallen angel, Lucifer, when will you learn? Its been over a long time ago. You are only experiencing the delayed consequences of your sins. My children are waking up to their destinies and will watch the fulfillment of the prophesies uttered since the beginning of their time.
“But I have swiped a massive load of those loathsome fleshly beings you call your children. They are mine for eternity. Ha, Ha Ha. Oh, what pleasure it will give me to unwrap and play with my toys at each century.
“Will you truly enjoy, or have time to really have fun? The clock is ticking, the sand has almost run out. “
“The battlefield is filled with wounded, half-dead soldiers in your army. How could you speak of time when I have snuffed out so many useless lives? Their light has now been dimmed, many put out as they hurried by the thousands retreating from my army. No one will want to follow you now.”
“Lucifer, I have faith in my Children for they will be back in full force. You may have disillusioned many of my people and dimmed the life force in them. But as you know, the HOLY SPIRIT lives in them as I willed! Their spirits will be rekindled, their lights passed onto the next generation who will come at you even stronger than before, each generation possessing a greater spiritual strength and truth than the previous. Only a little while longer will you be able to carry on your charade before you are fully exposed. My people from all nations will rise and claim victory before the seventh seal is broken.
“Fools they do not know what they have done!They have ruined my marvelous plans, trampled my world and destroyed all the glamour and shine. The veil I proudly hung over their eyes have been removed. Everywhere I look they are there, defeating my plans, questioning my traps, and escaping my clutches! They have cost me a lot! BUT, I have some victory in seeing them snuffed out, removed and destroyed. Who will want to follow you now that they have seen the cost entailed in being your servant when they can have me? They saw how easy life was and can be, how botherfree from my workers who mostly leaves them alone to their devices as long as they don’t violate our agreement by consorting with your side. They can have all their desires satisfied, whatever they want, whatever they ask in my name, not yours, and I will give it to them, “ the dark prince boasted gleefully.
“But have they read your fine print? How long is your contract enforcable for? Once they sign on the bottom line in their blood, the very life force I have breathed into them, how long before they are woken up to the realities of the falsehood of their existence? At what point do you demand payment for your generosity?”
“Immediately of course, but only you and I know that! Everyone has a price and most are so desperate to do anything to pay for it. You have denied them so many simple things that they are so quick to grab at the invisible smokescreens I offer. You dangle promises in their faces and riches but only when they get to heaven. I have everything I’ve ever wanted and I can do almost all the same things you can do. Everywhere they go, no matter what they do, or when they worship you, my stamp is there. I am ruler of this world.” huffed the suddenly deflated prince of darkness.
“Are you still trying so hard to be like me, my fallen angel? When I created the world you knew the rules. Though the world is yours to run as you chose, the children are mine. You, more than anyone else know what the final outcome will be. “
“Whatever!,” satan hissed as he turned his back and began to walk away. “All I know is my numbers are greater than yours and I will win. See you on the battlefield”, satan gloated at he began his exit.
“Satan!”, commanded GOD, causing the dejected prince to whipped around to attention, “your defeat is inevitable. Savor your small victories just a little while longer, for in a short time it will be over! Then you and I will meet again for the last time. For I KNOW the plans I have for you!! Until then...” declared the LORD as the heavens shooked with mighty thunder and lightening. “Until then.”

This may be the end of this story but not the end of the chapters in our lives. I wrote this because I feel many don't understand the what happens in the spiritual world. We keep looking for physical manifestations to the word of GOD, though there are many around. Our words do have the power to cause things into being. What we say, ask for, and prayer for it comes to pass. But like the laws of physics, there are always physical obtacles to overcome and many demons preventing the angels from answering our prayers, which is why we must keep praying without end.

God Bless
Only you can make the choice! You have the free will!




Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederik
* don

It's not about a little silence. I have never experienced anything different. I have always been in the desert.
And if God wasn't done with me by now, then I bet he's done with me now. Yesterday I was so angry and I had such really vile thoughts that I hate God and want to pay him back etc. I become so angry and my thoughts become autonomous and I can't do anything to calm and then I have thoughts like: "I wanna pay God back" or "I'll tell the holy spirit that I don't give a ..... about him". Often I'm shocked at myself cause I can have so evil thoughts.I think he's done with me. But I never know cause God never says a thing.I have been angry so often and every time I'm angry I screw up my "relation" with God a bit more. On the one hand I'm this nice christian who thinks that he loves God and the next day I hate God and want to pay him back. Something has to be wrong here. I don't know what to think about myself if I really loved God then I couldn't have such thoughts. I also don't think that God has much understanding for my behavior.
I don't think that God wants to have an evil,jealous,angry child like me. God wants children which are patient and always nice and never think bad of him, this is something which I'm not.




Posted by: Prince6881

Just ask HIM! Be Specific! The answer is around the corner as some has been on this thread. HE will answer!

QUOTE=Frederik]* don

It's not about a little silence. I have never experienced anything different. I have always been in the desert.
And if God wasn't done with me by now, then I bet he's done with me now. Yesterday I was so angry and I had such really vile thoughts that I hate God and want to pay him back etc. I become so angry and my thoughts become autonomous and I can't do anything to calm and then I have thoughts like: "I wanna pay God back" or "I'll tell the holy spirit that I don't give a ..... about him". Often I'm shocked at myself cause I can have so evil thoughts.I think he's done with me. But I never know cause God never says a thing.I have been angry so often and every time I'm angry I screw up my "relation" with God a bit more. On the one hand I'm this nice christian who thinks that he loves God and the next day I hate God and want to pay him back. Something has to be wrong here. I don't know what to think about myself if I really loved God then I couldn't have such thoughts. I also don't think that God has much understanding for my behavior.
I don't think that God wants to have an evil,jealous,angry child like me. God wants children which are patient and always nice and never think bad of him, this is something which I'm not.[/QUOTE]



Posted by: Donm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederik
* don

It's not about a little silence. I have never experienced anything different. I have always been in the desert.
And if God wasn't done with me by now, then I bet he's done with me now. Yesterday I was so angry and I had such really vile thoughts that I hate God and want to pay him back etc. I become so angry and my thoughts become autonomous and I can't do anything to calm and then I have thoughts like: "I wanna pay God back" or "I'll tell the holy spirit that I don't give a ..... about him". Often I'm shocked at myself cause I can have so evil thoughts.I think he's done with me. But I never know cause God never says a thing.I have been angry so often and every time I'm angry I screw up my "relation" with God a bit more. On the one hand I'm this nice christian who thinks that he loves God and the next day I hate God and want to pay him back. Something has to be wrong here. I don't know what to think about myself if I really loved God then I couldn't have such thoughts. I also don't think that God has much understanding for my behavior.
I don't think that God wants to have an evil,jealous,angry child like me. God wants children which are patient and always nice and never think bad of him, this is something which I'm not.


Frederik - there is a war raging within you and it is a war that is raging within every born again Christian. Your flesh desires "to see" something NOW! While the Spirit within you says - "be patient".

Your flesh while it has not been "satisfied" says - "I hate God". While the Spirit within you says - "I know that God is good".

This is an age-old battle - its nothing new. Look at Galatians 5:16-26 -
So I say, live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature. For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.

The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: Sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.


Please allow me give you this oft-told story -
The man said: "I have two dogs fighting within me - a good dog and a bad dog." "Which one is winning?" a bystander asked. "The one which I feed" was the response.

This in parable is the story of the text. The two s****ping dogs represent the flesh and the Spirit, the carnal nature and the spiritual nature, the "old man" and the "new man," the Adamic nature and the Christ nature, darkness and light.

Over and over, moment by moment, day after day - the war rages on.

This is the big battle of life. How we decide determines how life proceeds. It influences the way I treat my wife, how I drive my car, how I relate to people, how I define my values, how I use my time, how I do my devotions, and how I express my giftedness. It all has to do with my response to the inner conflict between flesh and Spirit. Do I submit to the titillating and enticing invitations of the flesh? Or do I surrender my will, emotions, desires and appetites to the life-giving urgings of the Spirit? The quality and destiny of life is hinged exactly here. Everything else is consequential.

"So I say, live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature. For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want." (5:16,17) Then, in summary - and to link this passage with what has gone before - Paul adds this statement: "But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law." (5:18)

Yes, the war continues. The flesh against the Spirit. The old nature battles the new nature. Darkness seeks to snuff out the light. But Calvary has settled it all. While we experience the aftershocks, the victory has been won. Satan has been stripped of his power, his authority crushed, his influence reduced to intimidation and annoyance. The Savior of Calvary has decided the outcome. No longer need anyone be subjected to the bondage of the flesh. The Spirit has triumphed.

How does a believer keep the old nature in a state of powerlessness?

Back to the opening parable. It all depends on which "dog" (nature) you feed (nourish). Both physically and spiritually we are what we eat. What is your diet? TV, videos, questionable magazines, sensual imaginations? Or is it God, His Word, worship and witness? Check your diet. Feed the right "dog."

Heavenly Father, I lift Frederik to you today and ask Father that the Word of God would become evident in his life today... that his spiritual eyes would be opened and strength would come to him just now as we pray. Not just any strength - but God add your "super" to his natural strength in order to feed his Spirit with the good things of God... your Word, worship, and witness.

God, show Frederik to day that the battle between the flesh and spirit has already been won through what was accomplished on the cross of Calvary and that he can walk victoriously in the Spirit with strong faith in You and Word!

Help him Father to "crucify" his flesh that is crying out to be satisfied.

We thank you Father for Frederik who has been honest with his feelings, now help him with those feelings - flood his spirit with Godly understanding... I pray that the Holy Spirit would lead him into "Truth" this day in the name of Jesus - Amen.



Posted by: Frederik

What if God is done with me ? If I blasphemed the holy spirit then everything is over. Maybe I comitted the impardonable sin.



Posted by: Donm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederik
What if God is done with me ? If I blasphemed the holy spirit then everything is over.


Frederik - You will know if you have committed the "unpardonable sin". Your desire to be a Christian will be forever past. No scriptural impression will ever again come to your soul. A hardening process will take place.

Matthew 12:31-32 says...
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.


In another passage (Mark 3:29) we read:
But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

The tragedy lies in the eternally unforgiven soul. Since the Holy Spirit is the Agent in conviction and conversion there can be no rebirth without the Holy Spirit. To sin against the Holy Spirit is to sin against your own soul. To blaspheme against the Holy Spirit is to shut yourself off forever from access to God.

You will know if you cross this deadline. Those who have committed this sin are completely given over to Satan and have not the slightest interest in spiritual matters (to which I see that you still do or you would not be on this board seeking help). Paul describes it as being "past feeling" (Ephesians 4:19).

On the other hand Satan, the deceiver, will lie to you and tell you that you are unpardonable. God makes no exceptions to His offer of salvation.

Blasphemy is not unpardonable. Paul was a blasphemer and he was pardoned. (1 Timothy 1:13).

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is unpardonable - and if you need to ask how then do I sin against the Holy Ghost and commit this sin? Then you have not committed the unpardonable - because one must be absolutely without a doubt sure of what they are doing before it can be committed. It is very hard to committ this sin.

The person who sincerely asks for pardon will never be refused. Isaiah 55:7 says...
"Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon."

Paul was a great sinner but he obtained salvation (1 Timothy 1:15-16)

So destroy the guilt that the enemy is trying to place upon you that you have been too bad against God and you have sinned against him and that you have gone too far.... He will never forgive you now.

God is longsuffering... He is a lot more patient with us, than we are with Him.

Return to him today with a heart full of faith and He will accept you with arms wide open!



Posted by: Frederik

Thanks Don.
Are you an evangelist, too ?
Like Jerry ?



Posted by: Donm

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Originally Posted by Frederik
Thanks Don.
Are you an evangelist, too ?
Like Jerry ?


You are welcome, and yes I am an evangelist and hope that I have helped you. I stand on God's Word that it will not return void but it will accomplish the thing whereunto it was sent.

I am usually very busy with evangelistic work traveling and ministering throughout America and the World - but for the past two days God has instructed me to stay here and to pray for needs that are presented here at Anointed.net. I don't know who I am here for at this time, but I have learned to trust God for He knows exactly what He is doing.

If you ever need encouragement and prayer - I am confident that you will always be able to find it here. I have found that there are many here that are following God with their whole heart and as they pray they hear from God and the Holy Spirit leads them in the manner in which they should pray.

So, hold on and be encouraged Frederik - I believe that God has destined you for something good - this is why the enemy is trying so hard to stop you right now.

There is a great army of believers right now holding you up (the Anointed.net Army).

May God's Blessings Overtake You!



Posted by: Frederik

Thanks again, Don.
I also want to thank all the others who spent time replying to this.



Posted by: JG

Are you feeling better?



Posted by: Donm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederik
Thanks again, Don.
I also want to thank all the others who spent time replying to this.


Frederik - Again, you are welcome. But, like Jerry want to make sure that I don't leave you until you are ok.

Philippians 4:8 "Finally, Frederik, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, THINK ON THESE THINGS."



Posted by: Frederik

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Originally Posted by JG
Are you feeling better?


Yes.
When I'm angry I'm not of sound mind.
I wish somebody would knock me out whenever I'm angry this would spare me a lot of frustration. I feel really bad cause I thought so many bad things about God. I apologized for it but I wish it had never happened like it happened before. Every time I think that this is the last time that I freak out and a few weeks or month later it happens again.
I don't want to treat God that way but once I freak out I'm like a furious wolf.

Thanks Don, I think I'm okay, again.



Posted by: StarChilde

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Originally Posted by Frederik
Yes.
When I'm angry I'm not of sound mind.
I wish somebody would knock me out whenever I'm angry this would spare me a lot of frustration. I feel really bad cause I thought so many bad things about God. I apologized for it but I wish it had never happened like it happened before. Every time I think that this is the last time that I freak out and a few weeks or month later it happens again.
I don't want to treat God that way but once I freak out I'm like a furious wolf.

Thanks Don, I think I'm okay, again.

Hi Frederik, Praising God to see the changes that have come about in your life, and giving God the GLory for the your eyes and heart seeing how God really feels about you, and how much he loves you.
You say you get like this every so often...think about when this happens. It happens that satan the deceiver comes after Christians when they are having victories in Jesus! Why? He wants to steal our joy... I have been seeking answers to prayers, in a diligent and consistent manner, and I have seen some victories...I have wept tears of joy over the healing of my daughter KaeLyn, who continually improves with each day passing... to see the testimonies of those here with answered prayers, who I helped intercede for... for revelations in the spirit,thing that God is showing me... You say you do not have God talk to you... I believe He does... Your prayers are testimony to that.
I want to share something that God "spoke" to me yesterday...here it is: Well I have it laid on my heart to fast and pray~ and you know some ppl will say, well God never speaks to me… how do you Know the voice of God? ppl ask that all the time..the thing is, I think is because they are wanting this big booming voice out of the heavens...they ignore the small voice.. so I was preparing KaeLyn something to eat, and she wanted some apple, so I peeled it, and gave it to her,...she ate some of it, and I decided to put the rest of it in a baggie. Well, you know what happens to unpeeled apple, it turns brown... and I was getting out a baggie, and putting in the apple, and God spoke..it was just like a thought in my head..but I knew it was not my thoughts….” you see how this apple got brown when exposed to air? This is my ppl without My covering...the peeling is Me... the protection that I have given to My children when they walk in accordance with My Word, and do not turn to the world... when they confess their sins, when they come before Me with prayer,and praise. there are so many Christians who murmer and whine, that God is not hearing my prayers have these ppl "removed" the peeling? Have they gotten out from under the protection of my promises to them, not by ME...but by what THEY do?”I was so touched by that, that in a simple thing like putting an apple away, that God would use that to bring it into a testimony word for me.It was a blessing to me, and I wanted to share it with you~
I hope that it blesses those who read it as well~

Dear God, Oh my Sweet Jesus, How I love you, Your Hand upon my life, intervening to the Father on my behalf... I ask now that You bring to Frederik the recognition of that still small voice... the thoughts that come to him, where You reveal Yourself to Him... and give Him the blessing of the gift of tongues, that he so desires, to help him in his walk with You dear God...and let him know that You love him, In the Name above all other names I pray~ Christ Jesus ~amen and amen~



Posted by: cgirl

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Originally Posted by cgirl
Alright, enough talk let's agree that things will turn around for him and his church there in Germany immediately.

Dear Heavenly Father, we praise and love you. I ask in Jesus name that you would encourage and strengthen Frederik and that he wouldn't give up so easily. Give him a godly attitude like Job, that he will love you no matter what happens or doesn't happen. Let his walk turn from ritual to relationship. We know Christianity is not dos and dont's but an intimate relationship, let Frederik have that with you starting today even now. Fill him with your Holy Spirit and baptize him with Fire. Open his eyes, enable him to see and walk by faith. Empower him to walk in all your ways. Show him how much you love him and hear him. Help him to see in the Spirit not in the flesh. Revive his church, his city and country as well. Let the church there become alive and doing exploits for the kingdom of God, let many come to the Lord because of them. Lord God, in your presence there is fullness of joy and peace that passes all understanding, give that Frederik as well. I ask that he will not give into the flesh but the spirit. And for him to submit and humble himself before you, so that you are able to lift him up according to your Word, amen and amen.


We've all said our 2 cents worth, but prayer changes things. Let's pray for revival for him, his church, city and country. Amen?



Posted by: gwenith21

It will be easy for me to remember you. You for some reason I have always had a curious interest in you. I will be praying for you okay. Listen, God sacrificed His only Son to save you, I believe he will have no problem forgiving your moments of disbelief and anger. Remember who made you, EVERYTHING. Your the pot He is the clay maker, you cant understand his great wonder, none of us can. Just believe. I am praying for a true miracle and unrevealing of Christ in your life.
All my love and prayers are with you. Your sister in Christ
Holly

ps- keep us all updated on your progress and thanks for being so truthful about your feelings and concerns.



Posted by: Frederik

Thanks Gwenith and friends.



Posted by: gwenith21

I am only happy to pray for your Fredercik, so how are you feeling?
Let us know when you can.


Dear FAther, Please reveal Yourself to Fredrick, please draw Him to yourself and give him much wisdom and understanding. Lord I thank you that you have allowed Fredrick to be so open and thruthful about his feelings. I pray you will use his trials to bless others, and glorify Your name. THankyou Father, Amen



Posted by: Frederik

I'm okay, thanks.



Posted by: babam

just read all of this thread - no mean feat I can tell you.
It is good for me to see that others have bad days. I was begining to think that it was just me and Job.
I have days of utter defeat where I just pray the same prayer over and over in an attempt to elicit a response. Other days I just let out how I feel about the frustration that I feel. And on the really really bad days I just cry and other people pray for me.
Its so wierd. I get words and pictures, encouragements and stuff for others by the bucket load. I've seen healings big and small. Even experienced some myself. Which is all good stuff. Its nice to be able to pass along things to others and wonderful to see healings. To feel the Lords presence has no equal.
Yet with all this great stuff going on my heart is still torn apart. I'm see the Lord do amazing things. I go up for ministry praying over and over in my heart just a word or a picture about the one thing that is destroying me, the one thing that I can't get over or move beyond and refuse to accept. Its almost like being taunted. I know that God hears my prayers. I went up for ministry once and the woman praying for me prayed the same prayer that I pray every night almost word for word.
Where can you go from there?
Whats going on? I know He can do anything. I know He knows how I feel.