Prophecies I feel Abba has given me re the U.S.

[Praying Gal]

I'm afraid I don't have anything very positive to say about what I feel Abba is telling me about the U.S. and it's future. Sorry.

One of the first times I got a prophecy specifically re this country was about a month before 9-11. Two times in the mornings, while I lay between waking and sleeping, I felt the Father told me, "Terrible things are coming to America." In my mind's eye I saw some awful things in the future (though I could not tell any timeline). Famine was one. The use of young girls as sex slaves for money was another.

The Friday before 9-11 the Father brought me the word "Tuesday." (9-11 was on Tuesday in case you don't remember.) I thought He was speaking to me about something in my personal life and kept saying, "Lord, I don't see how Tuesday is going to be any different than any other day."

The Saturday before 9-11 I was out riding my bike. I asked a man for directions to a certain street. The man was dressed like any suburbanite, very trim and neat. But he was obviously part middle eastern and - apparently - part Caucasian. He had an accent I did not recognize. For reasons I did not even reflect on, I decided he was an Arab.

As I pulled away from him on my bike I was very surprised to feel the Father showing me what he was thinking, or rather, feeling. He was feeling sorry for Americans and America for what was going to happen - though I was clueless as to what that event might be.

Now I was not connecting the dots in these experiences yet. When I got home I prayed and asked Abba if my experience with the Arab (?) was just my imagination. I also prayed for America's safety, though I don't think with much strength, for it was hard at that time to imagine what kind of danger there might be. (Back then we were - still are to a great extent - so naive.)
The Father never answered my questions, apparently because he knew I would figure it out soon enough.

Within a week after 9-11 I felt He showed me that gas was going to be a problem. This took quite some months to bear out. Now, gas has been going down lately and that trend may continue, but I personally have felt that He has said this is only temporarly and that gas prices will one day in the not very distant years ahead go up far, far more. He also said Medicare is going to go away, the country will be divided into "haves and have nots" and etc.

In fact, I feel there are only several years left for us to get ourselves in good shape finanically, and be like Joseph, prepared for the coming terrible times.

I believe we all need to take seriously, individually if not as a nation:
"If my people who are called by my Name will humble themselves and seek
My face and pray, and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from Heaven and forgive their sins and heal their lands."

I personally have tended to think in terms of others'
"bigger" sins with this verse, sins like abortion, homosexualty and so on. But YHWH keeps dealing with me about my own sins, and how they may not seem as big to me, but are just as serious to Him. I haven't had some of the horribly abusive, or mind twisting experiences some have experienced. I know Scriptures. "Much is expected from him to whom much is given."

"The prayers of a righteous man avail much" and we are going to be needing all the prayer power we have in the not too far off years ahead.

As someone said on a recent radio news show, those in government are not asking if another 9-11 will happen, but when it will happen.

So, what is a righteous man (or woman, of course) like? I used to think in terms of dos and don'ts. They are important, I know. But never nearly enough to transform our lives supernaturally. Of course a righteous person is waking the love walk I now see. I have felt the Father showing me in my heart, where it counts, that we need to get into what I call "the Love Bubble." It is an invisble but invincible surrounding of agape Love that we can live and move and have our being in. There is that place - I am just taking baby steps in learning how to get into it and stay into it myself - where we enter into His Presence so much that we want to be good about the dos an don'ts because we love Him so much we want to obey Him, not just because we fear Him - or want something from Him.

In the Love Bubble we truly are more concerned for others' welfare than our own. In the Love Bubble we live a life of paradoxes. While being more concerned with loving others than getting their love, so often their hearts are warmed toward us and they love us like never before. While wanting to please the Father just because we love Him, we find more fulfillment in life than ever we would have guessed we could have had. In the Love Bubble we get the greatest protections and mercies for ourselves, and for those we pray for. This I feel Abba has shown me, too, and I believe that He has shown me that it is through praise - especially but not only through Scripture-based praises - that we draw closer and closer to Him Who IS Love.

And He wants us praising Him all the time. All the time, day and night, around the clock. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." This is our primary weapon for these last days, I believe, praise that leads us into the Presence of our Heavenly Father and causes us to have the "Love Bubble" walk. "He who keeps his mind stayed on Me I will keep in perfect peace."

Oh...and something else I feel the Father has shown me. It is not wisdom to complain too much about this government - and certainly not to try to fight it (though of course we can vote and respectfully go through regular legal channels especially as He leads, to try to redress wrongs) now or in the future. Whether anyone likes it or not, they have been given authority, just as Scriptures show us. We are not to fear this government, or any government really, either. The One we are to fear is first and foremost and only the Almighty Creator.

It is not any deficiencies of those in power that He wants us primarily concerned with. No, it is our own deficiencies, and He will be only too happy to help us see them and get rid of them if we will but let Him.

[pickone]

Wow..... Thanks for posting....

[Lynn7]

Lord as I read this I think of all of the righteous people whom you are in love with and are in love with you. I know that much evil fills this land. Sin has become second nature. It has become politically correct to accept what goes against your word but I am thrilled when I think about your relationship with Abraham. I think about how your mercy allowed him to plead the case for the people of Sodom and Gomorrah. Lord your very heart reveals how much you love your people. I thank you for that mercy. I thank you for your unfailing love. I thank you for your watchful eye on this country. I thank you that you still hear the cries of your people just like you heard the cries of the children of Isreal while they were still in Egypt. Thank you for hearing the cries of you children today. AMEN

[Praying Gal]

You're welcome. Thanks for letting me know it was valuable to someone.

[wowGOD]

I will always leave my statements to the LORD...
BUT, HE has talked about greater storms coming.
We must pray to for HIM to draw us closer into the holy of HOLIES.
THAT is where HE wants us to be so life will be ABUNDANT.
That most only know him as a shadow behind the veil,
and they think they know him. They don't even have
time to get pregnant, or they don't stay for delivery.
THis is where DREAMS will COME to pass in the HOLY of HOLYIES
with the LIVING GOD.

Even MARY at JESUS' ressurection said where have you
put HIM to the gardener... not knowing that was HIM.
PETER was afraid before walking on the water and
thought he was a ghost. Bid me to come.

More than ever we need to KNOW him... me included.
I am only dictating some of what was spoken to me.
I am not smart nor clever, i just ask for the simplicity
of a child dear LORD to accept your truths - please.

To thirst of the rock , to drink to talk to be shaped by, to eat
the ROCK (his word)
to hide in and tell others about the ROCK.
HE came for Intimacy but to MAKE us FISHERS of MEN
and DISCIPLERS.

GOD has talked to me about building the Nehimiah wall secure
A word I have heard for 3 months, no cracks.
It has been prophesied to me of the economic strategy
of the enemy. The winds of the storm, the courage we need
to soar above.

AND lastly. Joseph and the land famine and plenty just recently
was revealed to me. It is amazing what GOD reveals. You probably
or most people have heard GOD's message here for HE gives it
out liberally AND as a people so should we.
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PLEASE TAKE THIS BELOW AS ENCOURAGEMENT and POTENTIAL FOR US...

I believe that WE as a body need ENCOURAGERS like never before.
WE need to commonly SHARE FAITH experiences to put a spiritual
booster in the body like never before. Why not share an hour early
of all that GOD has done for everyone on a weekly basis. I hear to often how poorly things are going... I think it grieves GOD. I pour out a lot of encouragement but feel i get very little in return. The LORD does give me what I need, though. THIS would transform the atmosphere of churches
from negative discouraged, pessimestic, doubt and unbelief to FAITH,
and BOLDNESS and THANKFULNESS, resulting in a landslide of healings and salvations and freedom and salvations. CAN you not SEE it?
But it must be employed.

I believe we need uncommon WISDOM these days, please pray for it
if led.
TO TAKE off the grave clothes. THIS is pathetic in the church, and why
we stink. Most people with filthy rags are spiritually and physically are
looked down upon. These wounded CHRISTIANS that are fumbling, and
dragging themselves in... are sometimes not only ignored but given a
PHARESEE comment. As if that can bind up their wounds.
REMEMBER one only has clean outfit on RIGHTEOUSNESS on the
FAVOR of the KING. Filthy rags drag behind and remind of old lives
and remind us and stink to others. JESUS said LOOSE THEM.
AND also teach how DO YOU WALK IT OUT in freedom especially
from addictions. I have been a crippled spiritually, CHIRISTIAN for years and years.

It was only recently that someone told me something that LOOSED a great portion of GRAVE CLOTHES. REGARDLESS, i have followed the LORD
the best I have known how with a huge deficit. THEY were taking off my grave CLOTHES, no one else helped in THIS particular way in more than 10 years. THIS is really sad. Why is it there are CHRISTIAN counselors
that charge enormous amounts, when there should me ministering
of the WORD by mature CHRISTIANS as a Byproduct of our faith.
WE have to get prepared people, ESPECIALLY for this HARVEST, they
are the most messed up and bruised.

Are you prepared for them to tell you they used to use needles, into witchcraft, used to be a homosexual, because they were molested by their own father, but got a girl pregnant out of wedlock... and are not sure even if a bug could be their former teacher as in re-incarnation.

ARE YOU PREPARED... HELP US O' LORD we don't want someone to miss HEAVEN because we can't relate to them... Personally, i think GOD prepares us as we move forward in helping someone else. THE best advice I ever got other than GOD given MESSAGES at church, was in ministry, where GOD was speaking through me to someone else and I said, i better take some notes, because that is not me SPEAKING...YET, i have seen some teens on the most on fire than any adult in my life, one i saw spends 5 hours EVERYNIGHT worshipping and praying and reading his bible with a shofar and prayer sharl.
ANY ADULTS doing this?

I believe THE CHURCH NEEDS people that take people by the hand and lead them from the STALE/DEAD life they are living to the HARVEST FIELD>
We must pray for laborers. The ones who are working so hard
need some back up. We are all in the army of GOD, but why is it
there is no real BOOT CAMP it seems like, to use the guns.

AND when a man goes down, who is there to RESCUE him...
It seems more like people RUN from them. WE need to bring
people into the HARVEST by the hand. How often do people stir up
one another about the JOY of the HARVEST? TESTIMONIES PEOPLE
Besides missionaries? Which is great but for most who haven't done
a thing it seems way too big for most. BUT they need to start somewhere.
I am talking from the average grammother, joyfully praying family and
friends into the kingdom, to a someone working and telling employees,
by inviting them to dinner and building relationships and trust. ANd
leading others to JESUS CHRIST in salvation, to ones that do this or that,
or various ministries. THE UNEXPERIENCED need to know
that just as they have a job, they are called to be a in the harvest.
WHEN they signed up to be a CHRISTIAN they signed up for
GOD's service. BUT they can't serve too well, unless they are communing
with GOD.

[sondrac6]

Thank you so much for your post..the Lord has been speaking the very same to me...about the nation...as well as my personal life.....i believe he is saying...agape love is the key to it all...and not just for a season but as a way of life...as a way of being one with Him. The other thing He has been letting me know is that although there will be trouble...and a lot of it....to the point that life in the United States will be completely different...Famine...is a word He had given me as well. As we know..all things work together for the Lord and those who are called according to His purpose..He means to have a revival in this country. I have experienced a famine of sorts in my family life recently and it has had that very same effect. Those of us who are being prepared to lead and serve the lost may experience such trials in preparation for the harvest as did Joseph. I thank the Lord for His love..for his care for his people...I thank Him for showing me that He is the way.the truth..and the life...Lord God almighty take me in to the holy of holies past the outer courts, and crowds of people, past the praising priests into the inner courts. Lord take me in by the blood of the Lamb...take me in to the holy of holies...touch the coal to my lips...HERE I AM!!

[Christian Commando]

I realize this Prophecy is nearly 3 years old and I do have respect for those who've been given visions/dreams about our future, there are particular aspects we need to keep in mind, for recognizing if something shared is a true "Prophecy", or just a reafirming of an on going pattern thats been known for months, years, decades, centuries, etc.

In this case, I'd like people who've lived here in the US or those who know our history well, to take note of the fact gas prices normally fluctuate. Plus the fact, we have gone thru what, 2-3 "gasoline scares/shortages" over the last 40 years?

In the 1970s and late 80s-early 90s, we saw another "scare/shortage" for two of them. Why? Its been proven, it was never by virtue of the "lacking" of oil. It has been by virtue of the US Government controlling the amount bought and refined by us.

2nd- For all the oil the US uses, the government has only two "operating" Oil Refineries, which also, according to how they work with the 3 major Oil Companies left in the world, control how much oil is refined into its various products and additives.

3rd-To adjust price raising and lowering, which also effects a greater part of the major economy, since so many other products are manufactured thru the use of petrolium products in one way or another.

4th- The price of petrolium products went very high again in the "2000's", for another "gas scare." This saw not just gasoline and oil prices rise, but also a multitude of other products sold, most could not figure out why. Why? Because, they were manufactured, thru the use of petrolium products in some way.

5th- Now, we find Obama comes in, starts instituting a socialist Government, and uses influence over the Oil companies thru the Government, to lower prices once again. If notice, every time the oil prices and other products went way up, the economy had been becoming slow, stagnant. After the "scare" and prices started going down, it helped to restimulate the economy again.

6st- Its already been proven as well, the US alone, contains probably the greatest reserve of underground oil deposits, than any other Country in the world. Yet, the US Government has forbidden for decades, any Oil Drilling companies to tap into those reserves. Even the majority of oil wells we have scattered all over the world on land and Sea, are "capped off" unused for decades as well.

That is one of the most major ways, the US Government can have more control over its general populace.

We must realize, that part of this "Prophecy" is not prophecy, its a Governmentally controlled repeat pattern for controlling the economy and population.

That part is not prophecy, but man made economic influences.

As for "Famine"- Its possible, but highly improbable. Why? The US over produces so much food, it sends a greater portion of it overseas to other Countries. Plus, we throw out 1/3rd to almost half of the food we fix for meals per family, uneaten into the garbage.

Yes, i believe such things will happen eventually, but we already know several other less economically developed Countries are suffering famine or close to it, simply because of thier socialist Governing System, which controls everything over thier populace.

Sure, it could happen with Obama turning things around for the worst in the US. But, I believe he will be killed or removed as President of the US once enough people realize what he's doing.

As for the Scripture used of God turning against us if we don't repent, He is refering to all Nations with Christians in them. We are all falable, thus, every Nation we exist in, will have thier failings/faults because of that. But Christ will do this at His Bodily return, when sets up His Millenial Kingdom and reign.

Besides, this Scripture, is given by God, in the midst of descriptions given of the Trib. Period. This relates to the Rev. Scriptures about the great Whore who sits upon the beast and gets the world's Leaders to comit fornication/adultery with her.

"I personally tended to think in terms of other's "bigger" sins."

"Big mistake." As Praying Gal eluded to, God does clearly look at "ALL SIN" as equally evil, with exception of the "Unpardonable Sin". It's man who puts "levels" to sin, when God has spent Milleniums trying to instill in us, regardless if a sin "appears" to be least of greatest in our eyes, its' equally bad. How?


As for girls becoming "sex slaves". Try going into video stores that sell all kinds and types of videos. And if had done this 15 years ago, teen girls were already becoming popular sexual objects in such things. It's rampant by this time, including a few that get by with underaged girls claimed as young adults in porn films.

So, this is not prophetic either, since the pattern has been going on for more than a decade before this was given. And its also been proven, many of those kids have basically been "sold" to the highest bidder of foriegn sex films, with deals between those having contracts over the girls, to outside film makers or supporters, many times from foriegn Countries.

I consider some sins "bigger" than others.

"Big Mistake". As Praying Gal eluded to, God does show all sin is equally evil, none greater or lesser. Save on sin- the "Unpardonable sin", which no True child of God can comit, since the Holy Spirit is dwelling within them.

That again, is "man's" perceptions, not God's leading.

In Truth, this has been a very good and insightful sharing of God's Word and Prophecies He gave in His word, to build up and uplift the "Body of Christ". But i cannot see any true "prophetic" Truth extended from God beyond what He or Christ spoke of in thier Word, that adds unto whats already been going on before hand.

One of the greatest falsehoods with "Prophecy" I've witnessed in the last 15 or more years, are too many showing these clear points of Satan-

1- Between some singles, to groups of "Prophets", they have claimed not all "Prophecies of God" have to be 100% accurate.

2- Many times, some "Prophets" are claiming "new Prophetic words" for someone, a group, Nation, the "Body" etc, of things already going on and getting worse as time goes on, which God or Christ Prophecied in thier Word.

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As for # 1- these people are "false prophets" of Satan. As for # 2, these can be certain of God's children who've recieved visions of events to happen/grow worse. They are not "prophecies" per say, but only an understanding of something already going on, getting worse, reafirming what Christ prophecied.

You see, God and christ declared people would "dream dreams" and "see visions". But never said these would all be "Prophetic". This is why God speaks of those who are chosen to be "Prophets and many others.

I do not intend to detract from this message of God thru Praying Gal, but only wish to lift up others who've viewed this, as a message from God in reafirming that which he has already shared with us in His Word, to strengthen our understanding, a change is needed and reawakening to seeking him more fervently greater committment to following what we learn.

Praying Gal is right on, in the fact we need to wake up as a "Body of Christ", not just a Nation, to God's Truths in His Word and start heeding them.

God Bless!!

God

[Amethyst]

Well, hmmmm...prices did spike to new heights after 9/11 and they haven't really gone down significantly yet, just some variation, not too impressive. We've had the bailout and it looks like the taxpayers will be having to pay for the bill, which some analysts say could make taxes skyrocket before too very long. Then there is the unemployment, but we have had that before. I guess if it doesn't get worse, we have nothing to worry about.

I personally think it will be obvious within a year whether this nation, which is eveidently not far from being bankrupt, is going to get better or keep getting worse.

It would be nice if those Moslems would quit hating us so much, and openly planning for the demise of this nation...

Scriptures do show YHWH sending foreign, pagan, nations against His people, but only when they keep increasing their sin levels and don't repent.

[Christian Commando]

Yes well, look at past hstory. Any time prices have made a jump up, they've never ever returned back to where they were before. thats the nature of economy, so... should've been expected. Its already happened historically about 3-4 times before.

"Bailout"-

1st- Any time a DFL President is elected, taxes always go up. They do not know any other way to work at covering expenses.

2nd- A person was elected as President, whose never had any level of Government position for governing before now, therefore, does not understand how Government works, which is why our deficite nearly tripled in the first 10 months of his being in office. This is proven thru US historical evidence also.

3rd- Taxes will skyrocket- yes because of the first 2 mentioned above.

But these should've been expected, for voting in such a man for President, since he has no conception of what it takes to run a Country's Government. Besides the fact, he is against Capitalist Governing and is trying to change everything over to socialist governing now, which will bury this Nation if continues.

Look at the Governing, Medical and other aspects of "Socialist" run Countries and prove to me this new President is doing whats best for the US by converting ours over to that type.

And he has lied publicly about how his medical package to be approved, would still help the very ill, elderly etc., if just look at the actual "Written Document" -(Bill) he introduced to Congress. And he also is an advocate for abortion.

And most of this was already publicly known more than 2 years ago when the first candidates were becoming known to run for President, when the media was sharing what would happen if Obama was to get into office. No, not on TV for the most part, because most of it is liberal controlled, but many a radio Station with Fundamentalist speakers had been saying such things all that time. But... who listened? Now people who voted Obama in, besides some of his own elected officials are backing away from supporting him.

Theres a difference betweem "prophecy", and understanding how the economy, Government and Leadership works, when foretelling the future.

I could claim alot of things I state are "prophecy" for the future too, but I'd be lieing, so long as I'm watching past historical events up to date and know of repetative patterns, besides knowing how Republican and DFL Parties think and operate in general.

such things as mentioned in the starter Thread for prophecies, can easily be deduced, simply by figuring out all the points I made here.

"Bankrupt"-

What do you mean "if" we go bankrupt? We have been "bankrupt" for several decades already, because of the fact many times repetatively, the US Government has had to over-run its normal sessions at the ends of years, to decide how much "EXTRA" money to have printed up, over the original planned alotted amount. If not for that, we'd been "sunk" a long time ago.

If question that, consider this- What does a business have to do, if ends up at the end of the year, spending more than it made? 2 choices- 1- borrow more money to keep going. Or 2- Go Bankrupt.

There are about 5 major Countries in the world, who owe the US Trillions of Dollars, ranging from War reperations to trade agreements etc, but do we collect? No. Yet, our Presidents time and again raise our taxes to pay on just the rising "INTEREST" of money we owe, nothing on the PRINCIPLE, to other Countries.

And here is a little known fact as well- The Constitution of the US declares we have no need to pay taxes, except during war times. So, people ask then, why were we paying taxes all those years we weren't at war?

Because of whats known as a "Cold War". In other words, when not in active war, we have people over in other Countries that are keeping tabs on problem Countries- (past or Present), to protect against movements against us. This is what is considered by the US, as falling under the title of "war", so they can continue to tax the people.

Muslims-

Even tho thier doctrine teaches people to hate and kill other groups who are against thier god and what he teaches, many muslims are still peace loving people. But, there are those "extremeists" who carry it so far as to out right attack other groups without provokation done against them.

God prophecied that way back in Old Test. times, when spoke of how the "time of Gentile rule" over Isreal would have to be fulfilled. This is to get more of His "First Chosen" to turn back to Him. And if look at all Scriptures pertaining to that "Gentile Rule", it goes all the way up to Jesus' bodily return to Earth for the 1,000 year reign.

As for those Government Officials claiming not "if" but "when" another attack like 9/11 could happen, they are being realistic. No country is 100% guarded against any and all attacks against them. Terrorists are "Guerilla Warfare" combatants.

In other words, they "hit and run." They do it outside normal past war time manuevers. Secretly, silently and quick. And they consider it a tremendous Service to thier false god, to comit suicide in an act of agression against thier so called- "enemy's".

Secretly, silently and quick- This first started in WW II, when Germany had a band of German's who spoke English naturally as well, take out a unit of American's guarding a bridge, to cut off Allied Armament and supplies from getting to further reaches against German forces.

that was one such movement mentioned, of several both German's and US Forces did during that War. This is why, President Kenedy, before his death, had instituted a training program for "Special Forces" to combat what he foresaw, as "Guerilla Warfare" becoming more popular.

Actually, the "first ever "Guerilla Warfare" tactics- (in American history), were used by the Colonialists against England. The Colonies did enlist and train "regulars" for thier main army. but... they also had "secondary forces" which were nonmilitary Colonialists which used nonmilitary tactics against the English Forces.

But the US trained those terrorists of 9/11 without realizing it, back before 9/11. why? Film clips were shown, teaching foriegn groups of people from the middle East, trained in using our weapons, armaments, flight training, etc, during peace time.

And particular entities within our Government already knew of the threat before 9/11, but it never got back to the President. This came out later on afterwards as well.

So, I could've shared probably 2-4 different scenarios of how things might go in the future with any person becoming President, simply by looking at thier past records of operating, to what they are saying in the present, and be considerably accurate in "false prophecies."

Besides that, back at 9/11, America had grown so large and strong, like Babylon, they never thought they could be attacked as were during 9/11. Our defenses had gone down cosiderably, thinking no one would ever attempt to attack us. But, we never considered a "Guerilla" sneak attack either. That was our fault.

God Bless!!

[Amethyst]

Either "Terrible things are coming to America" or not. YHWH knows and time will tell. Best to be very close and obedient to Yahushua/Jesus one way or another, of course.

[Christian Commando]

Well, America being the largest Christian Nation in the world, of course we will face trials and temptations. Some prophetic Sites have claimed, because we have considered some actions or instructions against Isreal, is in tune with various past catastrophies we've suffered in America.

and this was supposedly in accordance with how God spoke of those going against Isreal, would suffer problems.

But... if we look thru God's Word, we find, the only time other Nations suffered problems because of this, was with physical actions they took against Isreal, not for the speaking against them.

What happened to the 4 Nations who God foretold would take Isreal captive for chastisement of Isreal? God held to both prophecies-

1- Each of those major Nations did take Isreal captive.

2- But- God also destroyed each of those Nations, by each one becoming non-existant after the next one took over. This is proven with the Roman Empire, who finally became non-existant as well after thier alotted time of captivity over Isreal.

God will have his time of judgement against those who speak against Isreal at the Great White Throne Judgement- (Book of Works opened). but, when a Country actually moves physically against isreal, they will, in this physical world, experience a chastisement of that sooner or later.

But America would have to be proven they were even speaking against Isreal, by checking out the info claimed for this, to be sure its accurate, from ancient times to present times. I don't take other's word so easily for this, because of all the false prophecies passing around out there.

And checking things out ourselves is right inline with God, since God declares in Hebrews, we are to do as the Bereans did, and check those things being said to Scripture, to be sure they are True. In this case, historical facts or other sources to be sure if accurate or not.

just as God lead the Early church to understand the 6 day 6,000 year Concept of God taught then, for knowing approximately when Christ would bodily return, so too has Satan, thru many a psychic, ancient Civilization, ancient artifact and more, claimed the "end of the world," himself.

this is why, many things have to be checked out, so we don't just swallow anything spoken that comes along as supposed Truth. (as the waves of the sea, going to and fro following false doctrine. As silly women, following doctrines of demons, etc).

I'm not trying to discredit anyone or anything here, but only to show, before we readily just accept something shared, we need to take the time to check things out. Its natural for me, I'm a Preacher and Teacher in research for God, because of the years dealing with religions, Christian and Cult studied. Where I don't have answers or assurity, God provides me the means to find out as required.

God Bless!!

[Amethyst]

There are two kinds of ways of speaking to YHWH's people that He does not like. He does not like people saying, "Thus saith the Lord" if it wasn't Him. He also doesn't like it when people don't act as watchmen on the wall and warn people of impending danger and the desperate need to repent, but instead reassure them not to be too concerned.

Which is the scenario here? Again, YHWH knows and time will tell if "terrible things are coming to America" or if we don't have to be too concerned.

[Christian Commando]

You are quite right Sis. Which is why God has had me Preaching and Teaching considerably about the "signs of the times" that Christ gave us. Helping people to understand what is coming, what to expect, to be prepared for such, etc.

Between the descriptions of these "signs" thru the number of Gospel Books which share them, the variety covers everything from human thinking and operating, family relationships, envirnomental actions seen, Governmental points made, plus much more.

and the fact is, Jesus unmistakably declares, that evil will wax worse, until it reaches a point as it was back in "Noe's"- (Noah's) day. Knowing this alone, teaches us, everywhere around the world, evil will grow worse and worse over time.

From those "signs", we can watch how things are going, within all the areas and more Christ mentions, to see the degredation of God's morality. Also, by watching partiocular areas, we can also expect particular things to happen, by the patterns that are or have been already developing.

I have made such points quite clear in my first responce and have no reason to show any further proof of my points shared. But will again, cover several, to re-strengthen my point once more-

** Famine was one mentioned above- Of course, Jesus already prophecied this. But all these signs would happen in diverse places. So we know, like back in the "Dirty 30s", another "famine" will come again some day to the US.

** Girls used as "sex slaves"- This is in no way prophecy for America, for it had been going on already for 15 to 20 years before, "to date".

** Arab and the man feeling sorry for America- The prophecy PrayingGal claims to have had back just before 9/11 could very well be true, but as far as checking records here, don't see any record of it mentioned by her or others in relation to 9/11, back before or up to that date.

##-Note- There may have been a Child of God with the "Gift of Prophecy" who had spoken of this before 9/11, we hadn't heard about or recieved a posting from. But posting such info here, 2 or more years after 9/11 happened, does not prove someone actually recieved a prophecy as such.

** gas prices going up- Already clearly shared before.

** America eventually divided into the "haves and have nots"- God prophecied of this milleniums before, when thru people such as Ezekiel, Joel, Isa., and many more, about how the world would go, to eventually reach a point, where the "one world Government" would be able to convince the world to fall inline with it. HOW?

By economic slow degredation, to a point, much of the Earth will seek some way out of thier economic drought. The only way a solid Christian Country could end up as such, being as advanced and superior in knowledge and prosperity as we have been, is electing someone in who has no conception how to run a country, who will accept the Socialist EU way of Governing and change the US over to the same poor way of operating, as they do.

## Special Note- But, because of the way the US populace and many a government Official are now reacting to Obama's thinking and operating so far, I predict he will either be shot and possibly killed, or impeached and removed from Office. So... I suggest, unless what I predicted- (not prophecied), will happen, the US will, because of these early signs already known, end up in famine and more.

Too many people are becoming infuriated by his lies in the public media, compared to what he really states "in print" in his "Bills" offered to Congress and the House for passing, unmistakably publicly documented already for some time now.

** "Medicare going away"- Its already been publicly known for over 10 years, that first Social Security was in trouble from the Government borrowing from it, we've come to find out, publicly known, Medicare, Medicade and other major Medical Programs were also in trouble for thier particular reasons because of Government, known for nearly 10 years before already.

Really, if someone wants to give true prophecies, they should pick on subjects that have not already been proven to show the exact same pattern falsely prophecied in the present, from the past.

anyone can look at past patterns and then claim false prophecies for the future, based on the proven knowledge that history repeats itself. Clearly proven in the areas covered in PrayingGals' Thread starter.

There are already 4 Prophets/Groups of Prophets I could name off the top of my head, from prophecies given here publicly or thru PMs, I've checked out, proven to be false prophets. Enough of thier prophecies were pointed out inaccurate enough, or following along with already pre-existing patterns, they have now claimed in thier teachings, prophecies they share do not have to be 100% accurate, or not responcible if they happen to fall inline with past patterns. I agree, knowing then... they are not given by God, thus they are "false prophets".

It is any individual's choice, wether to pay attention to past history and realize where things are going or not do so. As such, there is clear diferentiation, between someone "predicting" certain points, by virtue of understanding past history, to "prophecying" by God's Leading of something to come, as warnings to them if don't change, etc.

The info shared in the "Thread Starter" are clearly "Predictions", not "Prophecies."

I would suggest you also recall God's warnings of following along with those who go like the waves of the sea, following false doctrines, or being like "silly women" going to and fro, following doctrines of Demons. Also, to read and learn His Word, to show ourselves approved, in rightly dividing Truth.

God Bless!!

[Amethyst]

The "silly woman" comment wasn't really necessary and not necessarily nice. Ditto other comments.
This is, I thought, a place where people can come and give their impressions on what they feel YHWH is speaking to them. How can they feel free to do that if they think someone is going to come along after them and start critiquing and criticising all they have said? You have attacked that initial post, and me at great length. Why don't you just let it lie? Again, YHWH knows and time will tell. I don't think the people who read these posts, including me, necessarily feel that your guidance, warnings and direction are called for or necessary, whether you are a minister or not.

Sometimes when we think we are being helpful to others, we are actually being intrusive and even insulting.
How does that serve the Heavenly Father? My last post on this topic.

[Christian Commando]

Amethyst-

Forgive me if that "Scripture" God spoke thru the Apostle by the "Holy Spirit" offended you. It was not meant to. If notice, the Scripture I mentioned before that, refers to "men" going as waves of the sea. So, the Scripture I shared about "silly women" was not specifically focused towards this exchange and you or "Praying Gal" being female. It had nothing to do with that.

As for people sharing thier "impressions", thats fine. But, is there something wrong with another sharing insights in responce to thiers, to express thier understandings as well? Lets not try to veer into believing people have a right to share "impressions", but others are now not allowed to share thier understandings in responce to them.

You need to re-read God's Word in understanding how, we are to test the spirit of teachings. All I have done, is simply showed clear references that share alikeness of an understanding more of where this came from, than actual prophecy.

I was just asking why God would prophecy the simpler things we have seen happen every so many years, to each century, etc. It doesn't make sense, knowing, if look back at history, its already known will happen again. Thus, its not clear, why it would be prophecy from God, to hear such things, when so many already know it will repeat again soon enough anyway.

Dear Sis in Christ, I have not "attacked" anyone. Forgive me if believe I have, for that was not my intent. Disagreeing with someone is not attacking them. Showing proof to the contrary about a subject is also not attacking anyone.

But, it is solely up to each person to decide how to take responces. They can believe God's Word and listen to his thoughts and respond in a "Christ-like" manner, or listen to Satan and respond retorically. Its each individual choice for that.

God Bless!!