As the word says "let no man judge you" if you want to Worship on Saturday, Praise the Lord but if you want to Worship on Sunday Praise the Lord. That is between you and the Lord.

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That's right! Amen

Thank You for the clarification Jerry!!!

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The Ten Commandments
Jesus was once asked,

"Of all the commandments, which is the most important?" "The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.' The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these." (Matthew 12:28-31)

Can anyone see anything possibly wrong with those? These two commands of love, to love the Lord and love our neighbor summarize the commands given in the unchangeable Ten Commandments written on tablets of stone by the very finger of God. Read them carefully!

The Ten Commandments
Exodus. 20:1-20 And God spoke all these words: "I am the LORD your God . . .

Commandments regarding our relationship to God
I. "You shall have no other gods before me.

II. "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand [generations] of those who love me and keep my commandments.

III. "You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.

IV. "Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
Commandments regarding our relationship to our fellow men
V. "Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you.

VI. "You shall not murder.

VII. "You shall not commit adultery.

VIII. "You shall not steal.

IX. "You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.

X. "You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor."


Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. The commandments, "Do not commit adultery," "Do not murder," "Do not steal," "Do not covet," and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: "Love your neighbor as yourself." Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. And do this, understanding the present time. The hour has come for you to wake up from your slumber, because our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed. (Romans 13:8-11)

The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." (Galatians 5:14)


I WILL NOT ALTER NOR BREAK THE THING THAT IS GONE OUT OF MY LIPS. See Psalms 89:34



The Law of God
New Testament

I."Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve." (Matthew 4:10.)

II. "Little children, keep yourselves from idols."
"Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device." (1 John 5:21; Acts 17:29.)

III. "That the name of God and His doctrine be not blasphemed."
(1 Timothy 6:1)

IV. "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath: therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath."
"Pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neiter on the Sabbath day." "For He spake in certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all His works." "For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day." "There remaineth therefore a keeping of a Sabbath to the people of God. For he that is entered ino His rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from His." "For by Him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth."
"But going on from Perga, they arrived at Pisidian Antioch, and on the Sabbath day they went into the synagogue and sat down." And as Paul and Barnabas were going out, the people kept begging that theses things might be spoken to them the next Sabbath. And the next Sabbath nearly the whole city assembled to hear the word of God."(Matthew 24:20; Mark 2:27,28; Hebrews 4:4,8-10, margin; Colossians 1:16; Acts 13:14,42,44.)

V. "Honor thy father and thy mother." (Matthew 19:19.)

VI. "Thou shalt not kill." (Romans 13:9.)

VII. "Thou shalt not commit adultery." (Matthew 19:18.)

VIII. "Thou shalt not steal." (Romans 13:9.)

IX. "Thou shalt not bear false witness." (Romans 13:9.)

X. "Thou shalt not covet." (Romans 7:7.)


AFTER HIS DEATH

"Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law." Romans 3:31.

"They...rested the Sabbath day according to the commandments." Luke 23:54-56.

"What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. (Romans 6:15.)

"Here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." (Revelation 14:12.)

Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, called it the "sabbath day" in A.D. 45. (Acts 13:27.) Did not Paul know? Or shall we believe modern teachers, who affirm that it ceased to be the Sabbath at the resurrection of Christ?

Luke, the inspired Chrisitian historian, writing as late as A.D. 62, calls it the "sabbath day." (Acts 13:44.)

The Book of Acts alone gives a record of his holding eighty-four meetings upon that day. (See Acts 13:14, 44; 16:13; 17:2;18:4,11.)

The Sabbath is mentioned in the New Testament fifty-nine times, and always with respect, bearing the same title it had in the Old Testament, "the sabbath day."

Not a word is said anywhere in the New Testament about the Sabbath's being abolished, done away, changed, or anything of the kind.

No Christian of the New Testament, either before or after the resurrection, EVER did ordinary work upon the seventh day. Find one case of that kind, and we will yield the question. Why should modern Christians do differently from Bible Christians?

The seventh-day Sabbath was an important part of the law of God, as it cae from His own mouth, and was written by His own finger upon stone at Sinai. When jesus began His work, He expressly decared that He had not come to destroy the law. "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets." (Matthew 5:17.)







"If the Bibles is the only guide for the Christians then the Seventh-day Adventist is RIGH, in observing the Saturday with the Jew.... Is it not STRANGE, that those who make the Bibe their ONLY TEACHER, should inconsitently follow in this matter the TRADITION of the Catholic Church?" Question Box, Ed., 1915, p.179.

Jesus was in trouble, in the passage you quoted, because he and his disciples were gathering grain and eating it (working). By your standards drawn here, you would have been one of the religious leaders accusing Jesus. In the Old Testement, they were not allowed to gather mana on the Sabbath. Jesus broke that tradition.

My complaint with the Seventh Day Adventists is that they have a hidden belief: they believe anyone who worships on Sunday has received the mark of the beast and will burn in hell.

There are scriptures that say the apostles met on Sunday. And it also says we should not observe times and seasons, etc. as well as that we should not esteem one day over another. Along with circumcision, this tradition was abolished for the sake of the Gentiles. (You should know this; Jerry already posted a long list of scriptures to you about this).

~JeriRose~
Seeking HIS Glory in 2004

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24 But let him who glories glory in this, that he understands and knows Me, that I am the LORD, exercising lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness in the earth. For in these I delight,” says the LORD. (Jeremiah 9:24)

The following is excellent on this topic:

http://www.annointed.net/Community/...ead.php?t=20652

http://www.annointed.net/Community/...ead.php?t=20562

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24 But let him who glories glory in this, that he understands and knows Me, that I am the LORD, exercising lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness in the earth. For in these I delight,” says the LORD. (Jeremiah 9:24)

Thank you Jeri you are so right:
Jason said: No Christian of the New Testament, either before or after the resurrection, EVER did ordinary work upon the seventh day. Find one case of that kind, and we will yield the question. Why should modern Christians do differently from Bible Christians? And it was Jesus and the Apostles themselves who did the work on the sabbath..... MY MY MY what grace and to see the same religious spirit bringing up an argument Jesus answered 2000 years ago.


Jason forgets that:
The new testament comments on the fourth commandment: Mark 2:27-28 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: 28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Unlike all the other the fourth commandment is the only one that does not have a command to observe. But in contrast Paul said.

Col. 2:16-17, "Therefore let no one act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day— 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ."

Notice the sequence mentioned.
A festival is yearly event.
A new moon is monthly event.
A Sabbath is weekly event.
The word said do not let anyone judge in regard to this. The reality of the Sabbath is Jesus. Jesus is our Sabbath.

If we believed Jason we would have to follow all the Jewish Feast days also:

Thank God this battle was fought by Paul 2000 years ago.
ACS 15:1
And certain men
which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, [and said],
Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. 15:2
When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.

ACS 15:4 And when they were come to Jerusalem,
they were received of the church, and [of] the apostles and elders,
and they declared all things that God had done with them. 15:5

But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees (the same people that killed Jesus were now in the Church. that same religious spirit.)
which believed, saying,
That it was needful to circumcise them,
and to command [them] to keep the law of Moses. 15:6

Notice here just like Jason's argument that religious spirit wanted us to keep not just circumcision but the Whole Law.

And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

Peter rose up and said: ACS 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

ACS 15:13 ¶ ..... James answered, saying, Men [and] brethren, hearken unto me: ....15:18
Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. 15:19
Wherefore my sentence is,
that we trouble not them,
which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: 15:20 But that we write unto them,
that they abstain from pollutions of idols,
and [from] fornication,
and [from] things strangled,
and [from] blood.

Now 10 years later they are still in the same fight
ACS 21:18 And the [day] following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. 21:19 And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry. 21:20

And when they heard [it], they glorified the Lord,
and said unto him,
Thou seest, brother,
how many thousands of Jews there are which believe;
and they are all zealous of the law: 21:21

And they are informed of thee,
that thou teachest all the Jews
which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses,

saying that they ought not to circumcise [their] children,
neither to walk after the customs. 21:22

What is it therefore?
the multitude must needs come together:
for they will hear that thou art come. 21:23

Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them; 21:24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave [their] heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but [that] thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law. 21:25

It was because Paul violated his own preaching and went back to the Law to keep the peace he was arrested and eventually killed.

Please note what the Lord has done.
Which ministry did the Lord destroy
Which ministry did the Lord do away with.
Was it the apostle Paul's ministry or
was it the apostle's in Jerusalem teaching to keep the Law.

The Lord destroyed their ministry and kept Paul's.
We are save by Grace has lasted 2000 years


As touching the Gentiles which believe,
we have written [and] concluded that they observe no such thing,
save only that they keep themselves from [things] offered to idols,
and from blood,
and from strangled,
and from fornication.


GAL 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live;
yet not I, but Christ liveth in me:
and the life which I now live in the flesh
I live by the faith of the Son of God,
who loved me, and gave himself for me. 2:21

I do not frustrate the grace of God:
for if righteousness [come] by the law,
then Christ is dead in vain. 3:1

O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you,
that ye should not obey the truth,
before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth,
crucified among you? 3:2

This only would I learn of you,
Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law,
or by the hearing of faith? 3:3

Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit,
are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 3:4
Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if [it be] yet in vain.

Jason we love you but you are trying to bewitch us
You are trying to make them feel guilty
I am sorry my friend as a Jewis Christian who has found his savior.

I will not go back to the law.
Jesus paid that price for me 2000 years ago.

I am reading a book that almost had me convinced I have taken the mark of the beast for worshipping on Sunday. The idea is: If I don't work on Saturday, I won't be able to buy or sell. In other words: I will feel the need to work on the Sabbath (Saturday) so I can pay my bills, etc. The book is making some compelling points. It is by "Amazing Truth Publications." Seventh Day Adventist?

But I can't get away from the Romans 4:5 & 6 passage that says one man esteems one day and one esteems another.... let each man be fully convicned in his own mind. It was good to read this post and not get under the bondage of law. Also, Jesus worked on the Sabbath (gathering the grain), and He told the religious leaders that He was the Lord of the Sabbath. He made no apologies for working on the Sabbath, and he did not repremand His desciples for doing so. Which is interesting in light of this comment from JChappy11:

No Christian of the New Testament, either before or after the resurrection, EVER did ordinary work upon the seventh day. Find one case of that kind, and we will yield the question. Why should modern Christians do differently from Bible Christians?

Do Pastors/Ministers/Rabbis rest on Saturday, if they are Seventh Day Adventist or Jewish or Messianic Jewish or Christians who prefer Saturday, or do they WORK?

~JeriRose~
Finding HIM in 2005

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24 But let him who glories glory in this, that he understands and knows Me, that I am the LORD, exercising lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness in the earth. For in these I delight,” says the LORD. (Jeremiah 9:24)

6It still remains that some will enter that rest, and those who formerly had the gospel preached to them did not go in, because of their disobedience. 7Therefore God again set a certain day, calling it Today, when a long time later he spoke through David, as was said before:
"Today, if you hear his voice,
do not harden your hearts." 8For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. 9There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; 10for anyone who enters God's rest also rests from his own work, just as God did from his. 11Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will fall by following their example of disobedience.
(Hebrews 4:6 - 10)

Here, it says "Today" we enter the rest. So we are to be resting EVERY day, as "Today" does not denote any ceratin day. Monday is "Today"; Tuesday is "Today"; Wednesday is "Today".... So this is talking about a continual resting, a spiritual resting in Him. It says here "a Sabbath-rest," and those who enter God's rest, rest from their own work. The Sabbath of the Old Covenant was a type and shadow of the resting in Christ's finished work we would do. Just as they ceased from work on the Sabbath, we cease from the work of trying to earn salvation and REST in His finished work. He already did it for us. They gathered the manna for the Sabbath the day before. And Jesus already did the work for us, so we can rest. It's finished and done!

Not only does this free us of guilt for worshipping on Sunday (or any other day), it is SUCH a beautiful picture of the rest God for us! We can quit labouring in the flesh to earn salvation, and can REST in Him!

We were just in a conference where the prophesies regarded rest in Him....when I saw this scripture, something really leapt in me! EVERY day of the week, I can now rest. I don't have to wait for one particular day. When God gives us His spiritual rest, we can be at peace even as we are working.

I still take a natural day of rest from work and acitivity, because I believe my physical body needs it.

But the Sabbath as far as a day of worship, was a type and shadow of things to come, a time where we would be "singing and making melody in our hearts to the Lord" every day, all the time.... When He takes out the heart of stone (also prophesied), we no longer obey out of "have to"; we do it out of love. So He doesn't need to command a certain day for worship, to be sure we do it. He knows becuase we ove Him, we will worship Him throughout ALL our days. In the New Testament we are told not to forsake the assembling, but no particular day is specified.

JeriRose

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24 But let him who glories glory in this, that he understands and knows Me, that I am the LORD, exercising lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness in the earth. For in these I delight,” says the LORD. (Jeremiah 9:24)